The whine and cheese'ers won't let us create our own brand in football. They insist we continue with the same "brand" and look that has yielded us exactly nothing in ways of championships for 110 years, and zero ACC Championships in 35 years. Yeahhhhh, tons of tradition there!
Y'all need to settle down. No one has suggested that the uniform is going to be solid blue. You guys are jumping to conclusions based on how they've dressed some random Nike model dude. LOL. More than likely, we'll mix white pants with blue jerseys or vice versa.
NEVER!! I'M GOING TO HAVE MY VOICE HEARD, RAISING HEEL!!!
jumping to conclusions is my specialty!
Please tell me exactly how a "brand" helps you win football games? Smart, athletic players with good schemes and good coaching win football games. This whole "branding" crap is the very thing that is ruining college football. Athletic departments are too concerned with their brand than they are with...you know...actual football games. "Smart, fast, physical", Red Bull, Oregon-like uniforms, the Carolina Way...all crap. Just teach football. Bear Bryant is literally rolling over in his grave.
A sneak peek....Originally posted by gteeitup:
rh, wear some argyle in charlotte so i can find you before the game.
Your brand doesn't directly help you win football games (I never claimed it did), and yes you are right that smart, athletic players with good schemes and coaching win football games.
Originally posted by TarHeelNation11:
A sneak peek....Originally posted by gteeitup:
rh, wear some argyle in charlotte so i can find you before the game.
Whoa. Who said anything about rebranding? The football team changes uniform designs every few years. This is nothing more than a regular update, not an attempt at rebranding. Or maybe I missed that part somewhere?
First off, Dean Smith and Michael Jordan disagree with you.
Fedora's uniforms were certainly an attempt to re-tool the look of Carolina Football. The black, the occasional chrome helmets, the white helmets, the black logos. It was an attempt to create a new look. To me, that's re-branding.
Oh...you mean to appease the ones that financially support the "brand"? I agree, weird business decision.
Ok. I'm alright with that. They were basketball people, not football people.
I've never liked it, regardless of sport. But it's a bigger issue with football because football is the ultimate man's sport, IMO. And argyle just doesn't have a place on a football uniform. Just my opinion. Plus, to me, argyle on the basketball uniforms has always represented the one aspect I hate most about Carolina: its attempt to portray itself as elitist and better than everyone else.
If I were to agree that Fedora's new look was a "re-branding", wouldn't that be evidence of the re-branding being a failure? Because not only did the program not make major improvement, but the new uniforms had a lot of pushback. I heard and saw more negative feelings regarding the new look uniforms than I did positive. So wouldn't the smart thing for any business to do when they see a failure in their attempt at re-branding be to go back to what your supporters want?
So you're disappointed because you expected something different, but also something that went away from our traditional look? Well I don't know what to tell you, so I'll stop antagonizing everyone now. Because at the end of the day, my care-meter on the uniform issue is about a 2 on a scale to 10. It just doesn't matter. Obviously I'm in the minority since once again we have a multiple-page thread debating sports fashions (including ironic finger-pointing about metrosexuality....).
Not all donors are old, just FYI. And right now, I don't feel appeased. Difference is, I will have my say once the uniforms come out, then get over it. I won't whine about it, publicly, ad nauseam until I force a change.Originally posted by gunslingerdick:
Oh...you mean to appease the ones that financially support the "brand"? I agree, weird business decision.
Alexander Julian was born and raised in Chapel Hill. Also, the argyle pattern originated in the Scottish Highlands. Those folks are pretty badass so I don't see the problem.
I stand corrected on the Julian part....could've sworn I read he was from Connecticut.
Ok,...then please tell me, Mr. I-follow-football-more-than-everybody-else; what exactly is it that is holding the fanbase back from supporting football at the level in which we support basketball. If it's not the success or lack thereof, then you should be able to tell us because you're so football savvy. C'mon, please share with us "casual" fans. Please!
I don't know what to tell you. Post something interesting.
In 1986, I bought a pair of black Alexander Julian loafers (no tassles) at Julian's. I was still wearing those shoes in 2004 when a puppy got one and tore it up. I also had Alexander Julian clothes that lasted a long time that I liked - timeless look.
I think you're missing his point, although he probably could've stated it better. No one is debating whether success breeds more fans, because that's obviously the case. He's simply baffled (as am I) why -- of all the things we could talk about -- uniform changes are always the most passionately discussed.
okay, so jordan and dean smith had less than good taste in athletic uniform design...nobody is perfect, obviously.
I agree 110%. LOVE Carolina Blue. It's been my favorite color since the day I was born.
Recruiting- no thanks
Many people don't follow football recruiting. I know I don't. It's too time consuming and I don't feel like directing that much effort towards it.
Funny, but you've probably hit on the essence of it. While some folks may not be able to carry on a discussion about schemes or recruiting, everyone seems to have an opinion about uniforms. And since it's a purely subjective topic, you end up with opinions on exact opposite ends of the spectrum. Can't fight human nature. I give up.
I have a bag of something for you to eat.
