Twelve Months Probation, say it ain't so!
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After you can provide a link then I just think that all dook angles here are simply asinine. Dook boards are so boring however. From that angle I will award a possible maybe...
If we really care about SACS... then we politely mind our collective P's & Q's, cross all T's and dot all i's...for a year. WooHoo, big deal. Accreditation isn't all that, SACS as an organization isn't much in any regard but it does keep some Fed funds around.
If SACS had removed accreditation for the classes then that would have been a big deal. Thousands of ineligible student athletes
Not exactly. SACS doesn't determine accreditation for individual classes, but rather the institution as a whole.
What this means is that UNC has 9 months to provide SACS assurance that all compliance issues have been remedied (they have). It also means that UNC can't have another issue arise during the probationary period or it would risk losing its accreditation. After one year, if SACS is satisfied with the response, they'll remove UNC from probation and it'll be life as normal.
This is all good news.
But they didn't. Look for more trailer park beat-downs in Raleigh and Lexington tonight. But that's just a drop in the bucket compared to what's coming. Wait until the mooers and their hillbilly cousins in kaintuck find out no MBB or FB athletes are ineligible.
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This is the furthest they could go without pulling accreditation. A black eye that will surely heal.
Of course on other sites, puppies are already stating that this will change our recruiting; therefore, we will not field competitive teams anymore. Wake, State, Duke and ECU will all benefit from it.
Of course on other sites, puppies are already stating that this will change our recruiting; therefore, we will not field competitive teams anymore. Wake, State, Duke and ECU will all benefit from it.
VERY good news for the athletic department and UNC fans. We're one step closer to getting all of this behind us. Looks like I will GLADLY be wrong about potential punishment to the basketball program. GO HEELS
Not trying to be argumentative, but the good news is for the University and its alumni. Sure, yay athletics, but that wasn't the concern that truly mattered here.
Went back to the site and now this mutt is spouting this garbage:
"UNC-Ch was able to wipe out our basketball program in the late 80's, early 90's, then installed an AD whose job was to tank the other programs - it worked for nearly 15 years as State had a succession of weak chancellors and or AD's.
State now has the best one-two punch at Chancellor and AD since Chancellor Caldwell and Willis Casey - that was in the early 1970's.
UNC has not had a decent Chancellor since Michael Hooker died - I'd like to think he would have reigned in some of this mess and kept the ptb from pouring too much direct influence into the University. Moeser and poor young Holden Thorp were just not up to the task."
It amazes me the sure fantasy they live every day. It's like something from the X Files or Dumb and Dumber. How can a university basically comprised of technical programs have so many dumb, delusional people?
"UNC-Ch was able to wipe out our basketball program in the late 80's, early 90's, then installed an AD whose job was to tank the other programs - it worked for nearly 15 years as State had a succession of weak chancellors and or AD's.
State now has the best one-two punch at Chancellor and AD since Chancellor Caldwell and Willis Casey - that was in the early 1970's.
UNC has not had a decent Chancellor since Michael Hooker died - I'd like to think he would have reigned in some of this mess and kept the ptb from pouring too much direct influence into the University. Moeser and poor young Holden Thorp were just not up to the task."
It amazes me the sure fantasy they live every day. It's like something from the X Files or Dumb and Dumber. How can a university basically comprised of technical programs have so many dumb, delusional people?
Our punishment should be that we can never again have anything like an AFAM. No more special interest politics masquerading as academic study. We showed that we lack tje brians and/or balls to keep such even close to being without sight of the line. Deserved punish,ent is to not be allowed to have such a department. Send it to Rawlee.
Shall we also drop Asian Studies? Latin American Studies?
it's only not a big deal at all. Anyone who cares about this isn't up to date with what it really means.
You do realize that the AFAM department used to have the second hardest curriculum at UNC prior to the arrival of Mr. whatever his name and Crowder?
How about the academic side grow some balls and punish the hell out of the idiots that didn't do their job. Start with Jay Smith, Holden Twerp and the rest of the yahoos who turned a blind eye.
Correct. I've been through 3 SACs accreditation rounds and they make sure that your academic standards are up to their par by department. Had they stumbled upon the FAM stuff randomly they would have said "clean it up or risk losing accreditation". But since UNC has self-flagellated and self-exposed it, now they're basically saying "Bad! Don't let it happen again!"
While obviously it's nothing for the school to be proud of, the SACs issues are now done and done. Any NCAA sanctions will likely be directed at Women's Basketball. Men's Hoops should be safe and sound.
That was quite a drive-by, @WoadBlue . Are you going to answer the question, or should we just assume your original statement was based on racial animus?
I'm not sure why you'd suggest getting rid of Asian and/or Latin American studies, unless they had the same issues that AFAM had....?
The whole race aspect of this is making it a much bigger deal than it should be. People on both sides. People trashing the department solely because it focuses on African-Americans, and people defending the department blindly for fear of appearing racist.
Honestly, either every group/race/ethnicity should be able to have its own curriculum, or none at all - otherwise it is by definition a racist policy on determining fields of study. I'm all for all groups to be able to have their field - Egyptian Studies, Indian Studies, Inuit Studies - although I can imagine the uproar if they initatied a Caucasian Studies curriculum. But, RH, would Caucasian Studies not be as worthy of your protection as Asian and Latin American studies?
^^^^ You get it. Shutting down AFAM would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Some people would have you believe that "special interest politics" caused to the problems in AFAM. That's nothing but confirmation bias that's easily debunked.
For starters, the AFAM curriculum had existed for 25 years and was a well-regarded, academically rigorous program during that time. That only changed when Nyang'oro became chair in 1992 (the classes started in 1993) and abdicated his responsibilities to Crowder.
Secondly, the UNC Philosophy department offered 160 independent studies classes over a eleven-year stretch that demonstrated the same leniency in attendance and grading as what was going on in AFAM (link). The same could be said for the years-long scandal of independent studies classes taught in the Psychology department at Michigan (link). So the notion that these things only happen in politically-charged environments is utter nonsense.
Let's place the responsibility for this debacle where it belongs: with the individuals responsible who failed in their duty to uphold academic integrity at the University. Trying to blame politics or race is not only divisive, but also mis-identifies the root causes entirely.
Some people would have you believe that "special interest politics" caused to the problems in AFAM. That's nothing but confirmation bias that's easily debunked.
For starters, the AFAM curriculum had existed for 25 years and was a well-regarded, academically rigorous program during that time. That only changed when Nyang'oro became chair in 1992 (the classes started in 1993) and abdicated his responsibilities to Crowder.
Secondly, the UNC Philosophy department offered 160 independent studies classes over a eleven-year stretch that demonstrated the same leniency in attendance and grading as what was going on in AFAM (link). The same could be said for the years-long scandal of independent studies classes taught in the Psychology department at Michigan (link). So the notion that these things only happen in politically-charged environments is utter nonsense.
Let's place the responsibility for this debacle where it belongs: with the individuals responsible who failed in their duty to uphold academic integrity at the University. Trying to blame politics or race is not only divisive, but also mis-identifies the root causes entirely.
