A Year of Movies Round 3 - The Hateful Eight

[Raising Heel]

OOTB Picker: @TarHeelMark
Movie: The Hateful Eight
Year: 2015
Director: Quentin Tarantino
Starring: Samuel L. Jackson, Kurt Russell, Jennifer Jason Leigh
Run Time: 2h 47m

Here's the updated schedule.

Round 1 (02/18/18) --- @Raising Heel (Memento - 77.8 avg rating)
Round 2 (03/04/18) --- @heelz2345 (Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story - 75.4 avg rating)
Round 3 (03/18/18) --- @TarHeelMark
Round 4 (04/01/18) --- @tarheel0910
Round 5 (04/15/18) --- @BillyL
Round 6 (04/29/18) --- @TarHeelNation11
Round 7 (05/13/18) --- @grillheel
Round 8 (05/27/18) --- @strummingram
Round 9 (06/10/18) --- @coolwaterunc
Round 10 (06/24/18) --- @coryfly
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Round 11 (07/08/18) --- @Raising Heel
Round 12 (07/22/18) --- @heelz2345
Round 13 (08/05/18) --- @TarHeelMark
Round 14 (08/19/18) --- @tarheel0910
Round 15 (09/02/18) --- @BillyL
Round 16 (09/16/18) --- @TarHeelNation11
Round 17 (09/30/18) --- @grillheel
Round 18 (10/14/18) --- @strummingram
Round 19 (10/28/18) --- @coolwaterunc
Round 20 (11/11/18) --- @coryfly

 

[TarHeelMark]

@Raising Heel, I will go with a movie that most of you have probably already seen but I haven’t yet; it’s been in my Netflix queue for awhile...

The Hateful Eight

Summary:
While racing toward the town of Red Rock in post-Civil War Wyoming, bounty hunter John "The Hangman" Ruth (Kurt Russell) and his fugitive prisoner (Jennifer Jason Leigh) encounter another bounty hunter (Samuel L. Jackson) and a man who claims to be a sheriff. Hoping to find shelter from a blizzard, the group travels to a stagecoach stopover located on a mountain pass. Greeted there by four strangers, the eight travelers soon learn that they may not make it to their destination after all.

It’s a Quentin Tarantino flick, so I fully expect lots of violence. But I’m looking forward to finally getting around to watching it.

 

[tarheel0910]

@Raising Heel, I will go with a movie that most of you have probably already seen but I haven’t yet; it’s been in my Netflix queue for awhile...

The Hateful Eight

Summary:
While racing toward the town of Red Rock in post-Civil War Wyoming, bounty hunter John "The Hangman" Ruth (Kurt Russell) and his fugitive prisoner (Jennifer Jason Leigh) encounter another bounty hunter (Samuel L. Jackson) and a man who claims to be a sheriff. Hoping to find shelter from a blizzard, the group travels to a stagecoach stopover located on a mountain pass. Greeted there by four strangers, the eight travelers soon learn that they may not make it to their destination after all.

It’s a Quentin Tarantino flick, so I fully expect lots of violence. But I’m looking forward to finally getting around to watching it.

It's a good one. It's kinda like a live action version of the game clue, just with a ton of violence and adult language.

 

[heelz2345]

I’ve seen it, solid choice. Thought about this movie during Tomb Raider because one of the eight was in that also. Looking forward to a rewatch, especially during March Madness where teams brutally eliminate each other.

 

[Raising Heel]

This has been in my queue for a while, too. Looking forward to finally watching it.

Netflix says it's 2 hours 47 minutes. IMDB says it's 3 hours 7 minutes. Anybody know what's up with that?

 

[heelz2345]

This has been in my queue for a while, too. Looking forward to finally watching it.

Netflix says it's 2 hours 47 minutes. IMDB says it's 3 hours 7 minutes. Anybody know what's up with that?

IMDB may have listed the length of the "Roadshow" version, which took an intermission. That was only available at certain theaters with a specific type of projector. That's my guess as to the difference.

 

[TarHeelMark]

I went ahead and watched it this morning...

I love a good western, and while this is not a typical western, I really liked it. Despite its nearly 3 hour run time, it moves along nicely. Plenty of brutality and violence (sometimes over-the-top) as you would expect from a QT movie.

It’s like a stage play, as nearly the entire movie takes place inside Minnie’s Habadashery. A good story, with lots of shady characters. And without spoiling it... not all the characters are who they say they are.

I’ll score it 85 shreds. I’m deducting just a few points as I felt some of the dialogue didn’t fit with the time period. I shouldn’t expect it to in a QT flick, so I’m nit-picking to be sure. All in all, I enjoyed this movie and glad I finally watched it.

 

[TarHeelMark]

I think now is a good time to rewatch it.

 

[coryfly]

I'll watch sometimes this week when I stop pouting.

 

[strummingram]

Having a character named "Six-Horse Judy" automatically gets points from me.

It's my least favorite Tarantino film. I just don't think his style translates well into a western genre. And, as usual, his films have too much violence and blood and gore. It didn't bother me as much 20 years ago.

I did like the cinematography, however. It had a few memorable lines: "Now Daisy, I want us to work out a signal system of communication. When I elbow you real hard in the face, that means "shut up"!

60/100

 

[grillheel]

Question for @Raising Heel or anyone else who wants to chime in. Are we limited to choose movies from Netflix or is Amazon Prime an option also? I don’t pick a movie till May but Netflix seems to have less of a selection to choose from than Prime. Netflix seems, to me, to be concentrating more on television.

 

[tarheel0910]

Question for @Raising Heel or anyone else who wants to chime in. Are we limited to choose movies from Netflix or is Amazon Prime an option also? I don’t pick a movie till May but Netflix seems to have less of a selection to choose from than Prime. Netflix seems, to me, to be concentrating more on television.

Netflix is doing a lot of original movies as well.

 

[TarHeelMark]

I thought we originally said Netflix as everyone had access to an account. I’m cool with prime as well, but not sure about others.

 

[grillheel]

I thought we originally said Netflix as everyone had access to an account. I’m cool with prime as well, but not sure about others.

Yeah, I know the deal was Netflix and I’ll make that work, but just wondering if the group would be ok with expanding to include Prime to increase the movie selection pool. I’m cool either way, but just thought I’d ask. If anyone doesn’t have access, that would kill the idea.

 

[coryfly]

I don't but my brother does so it would probably be no issue for me to borrow his account just to watch a movie. We order stuff from their account all the time as they just added our card to it.

 

[coryfly]

The end was just decent but really liked everything else about it. I thought it may have ended with him saying the letter was real, not that it would have made it better or worse. Regardless, what makes his movies so great is the dialogue and it didn't disappoint. I really enjoyed it. Jennifer Leigh was fantastic.

93/100

 

[toophly1124]

@Raising Heel can I join yalls movie club or are the members set in stone? Either way I’ll watch some movies and give some feedback.

Just finished this movie. Never watched it before bc of the run time. Any movie over 2 hours I usually shy away from. Anyway I thoroughly enjoyed this. I absolutely love Quentin movies (Reservoir Dogs and From Dusk Till Dawn my faves) and this one didn’t disappoint. Acting was great as well as the story.

75/100.

 

[grillheel]

Ok, I’ve never been a big fan of Tarantino so when @TarHeelMark put The Hateful Eight up as the next movie, I have to admit, I cringed a little. I haven’t seen all of Tarantino’s movies, but I have seen several including Pulp Fiction and Inglorious Bastards. I don’t hate his movies, but, it’s funny, there are parts I like and parts I don’t, if that makes any sense.

Anyway, I liked the Eight better than I thought I would. I thought the acting was very good and the story was interesting and surprising. I did think some of the coincidences were a little unbelievable but, in general, the story was very compelling and interesting. The over the top violence and guts and gore were a little much for me, but were not unexpected considering who the filmmaker is. I, like Mark, thought the scenes at Minnie’s were much like a play with different things playing out in various corners of the stage.

I really liked the music and when I told that to a movie buff acquaintance of mine, he told me the score won the Academy Award. At one point during the opening stagecoach scenes the music reminded me of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti westerns. I learned (once again from the movie guy) that that was by design as an homage to those westerns.

Overall, I liked it more than I thought I would, and I’ll give it a solid 75.

 

[tarheel0910]

I really liked the music and when I told that to a movie buff acquaintance of mine, he told me the score won the Academy Award. At one point during the opening stagecoach scenes the music reminded me of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti westerns. I learned (once again from the movie guy) that that was by design as an homage to those westerns.

Not sure who the movie buff is, but he sounds like an asshole.

 

[heelz2345]

Not sure who the movie buff is, but he sounds like an asshole.

 

[TarHeelMark]

Ahem...

 

[heelz2345]

I’ll have my full review up tonight sorry

 

[tarheel0910]

I think it was a solid movie. Good acting for the most part, solid writing and a unique take on the"murder mystery" story. The ending was surprising, but left some loose ends. I thought the over the top blood and guts took away from the movie, but that's to be expected in a Tarantino movie. I'll give it 85 bags of cheese.

 

[heelz2345]

Long poast coming, but it's a long movie, so GFY.

Hateful Eight is an interesting movie in Tarantino's filmography for a handful of reasons. First, it mimics the structure and intimate nature of Tarantino's first film Reservoir Dogs by meeting the characters in a small location (the stagecoach in H8, diner in RD) and then sticking all the principle characters together in an enclosed location and waiting for the powder keg to explode. Multiple people have commented on how it feels like a play, and that's a pretty common response to this movie. I left the theater saying the same thing, and hoping they'd eventually do it on stage so I could play one of the characters.

The characters are some of Tarantino's most unique, and their arcs are fascinating with my favorite relationship being between Major Marquis Warren and Sheriff Chris Mannix. Circumstances force Warren and Mannix (Samuel L. Jackson and Walton Goggins) together when they would have never had common ground before, and the evolution of their relationship is really interesting. The viewer spends so much time wondering who are working together and who (or how many) are secretly with Daisy, which is different than pretty much every other Tarantino movie where character sides are pretty defined early on.

When Tarantino began writing this, he intended it to be a direct sequel to Django Unchained (and it's fairly easy to see that considering the lead is a black bounty hunter in the old West), but he obviously made a considerable number of changes considering none of the characters are the same. It still serves as a spiritual sequel to that movie, but there is no overt connection between them.

You can't talk about Tarantino without talking about violence. I've often said that I think Tarantino is misunderstood when it comes to violence. He does do some stuff over the top, and I believe that's a deliberate decision as sort of a statement as to how desensitized we are to violence. In his filmography, the stuff that is often the most disturbing violence is stuff that either happens off screen/implied, or if he does show it, it's treated differently than just crazy over the top blood geysers. When he wants you to really feel the violence, it's stuff like when John Ruth elbows Daisy in the face or when the gang takes over Minnie's, as opposed to Bob the Mexican's death (which is in the top 2 most over the top deaths in the movie, along with OB/John Ruth).

As also pointed out in this thread, the score is fantastic. Ennio Morricone won a long deserved Oscar for it. Morricone composed the scores of A Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, The Good The Bad and the Ugly, and Once Upon a Time in the West, so this guy is definitely good at what he does and Tarantino added that level of authenticity to this movie by paying homage to those movies.

Speaking of authenticity, here's a fun fact about this movie: the guitar that Daisy was playing was a real guitar from that era on loan from some museum, and was pretty much priceless. When they filmed that scene, they were supposed to switch the guitars out before John Ruth smashed it, but no one told Kurt Russell, and he smashed the real one. That's the take they included, and the reaction on Jennifer Jason Leigh's face is real shock. The museum was pissed.

This movie was very close to not being made, as the script leaked prior to production. Tarantino was furious, and considering he had only given the script to about three people, he had a good idea who leaked it. They ended up doing a staged reading of it as a way to bring the script to life, and following the response to that, Tarantino decided to make the movie, and we saw the result. The big differences in the reading is Amber Tamblyn read for Daisy, and Bob is French, not Mexican.

And now, in my 8th full paragraph (this was intentional), I give my score. As a Tarantino fan, I really don't think he's made a bad movie, with his top tier being some of my all time favorites. I have Hateful Eight around the middle of his filmography, and I think it's a solid B to B+. So, as a number, I guess that would work out to be about an 88.

 

[tarheel0910]

Shit, I just realized I'm next up and I have no idea what movie to choose.

 

[TarHeelMark]

Shit, I just realized I'm next up and I have no idea what movie to choose.

Ruh-roh.

 

[TarHeelMark]

Shit, I just realized I'm next up and I have no idea what movie to choose.

I had a suggestion for you if needed. But how the hell do you start a conversation with another poaster?

 

[heelz2345]

I had a suggestion for you if needed. But how the hell do you start a conversation with another poaster?

I also have some suggestions if you are interested

 

[TarHeelMark]

I also have some suggestions if you are interested

I bet you have a bunch. LOL.

 

[tarheel0910]

I had a suggestion for you if needed. But how the hell do you start a conversation with another poaster?

I've found a few. Now I have to figure out which one of those to go with.

 

[toophly1124]

Movies

 

[TarHeelMark]

I guess we all can safely assume that @Raising Heel is on vacation, and hasn’t thrown out the call to @tarheel0910 for the next round...

 

[tarheel0910]

I guess we all can safely assume that @Raising Heel is on vacation, and hasn’t thrown out the call to @tarheel0910 for the next round...

We've had a drama, comedy and western so far. I think I'm going to continue the genre change and go with a good action movie. "V for Vendetta" is going to be my choice. I'm sure many of you have already seen it, but it's worth another watch. @Raising Heel can open the thread or I'll take care of it tomorrow when I'm in front of a computer.

 

[TarHeelMark]

We've had a drama, comedy and western so far. I think I'm going to continue the genre change and go with a good action movie. "V for Vendetta" is going to be my choice. I'm sure many of you have already seen it, but it's worth another watch. @Raising Heel can open the thread or I'll take care of it tomorrow when I'm in front of a computer.

I’ve not seen it; looking forward to it.

 

[tarheel0910]

I’ve not seen it; looking forward to it.

I really like it. It's actually pretty relevant to the mood of the world today. It was written by the same people who wrote the matrix.

 

[toophly1124]

I’ve not seen it; looking forward to it.

Same here. Can’t wait.

 

[heelz2345]

I really like it. It's actually pretty relevant to the mood of the world today. It was written by the same people who wrote the matrix.

Well to be fair, V for Vendetta was a graphic novel by Alan Moore first, but yes, the screenplay was written by the Wachowskis

 

[tarheel0910]

Well to be fair, V for Vendetta was a graphic novel by Alan Moore first, but yes, the screenplay was written by the Wachowskis

Stop being so picky and just say you are looking forward to seeing it again.

 

[heelz2345]

Stop being so picky and just say you are looking forward to seeing it again.

Wasn’t being picky, just giving credit where it’s due.

I do like this movie though, Hugo Weaving is underrated imo

 

[Raising Heel]

As far as Tarantino movies go, I enjoyed this one more than most. It still had the recognizable trademarks like the dialogue and the violence that others have mentioned. What I liked is that this movie had intrigue and twists that you wouldn't normally expect. The characters were great, too. Still, some of the lines felt canned and the exceptionally graphic language/violence was a turn-off for me personally. Bonus points for the running gag with the door, point deduction for the guy-on-guy fellatio. Overall I'll give it 71 shreds.