ACC Adopts 3-5-5 Model: UNC To Always Face Duke, State & UVA

[andrew jones]

TarHeelIllustrated - ACC Adopts 3-5-5 Model: UNC To Always Face Duke, State & UVA

North Carolina will retain its three primary rivals as regular opponents under the ACC's new scheduling model.

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[tarheel0910]

Don't really care about playing UVA, but understand why we are.

 

[WoadBlue]

Don't really care about playing UVA, but understand why we are.

The South's Oldest Rivalry. We do not have enough football tradition to give up such a game. We actually need to hype it.

 

[blazers]

So two teams with best win % meet in the champ, doesn't this put NCSU and FSU at a disadvantage since they have an automatic L every year? And maybe that applies to anyone who lands Clemson during the rotation too. Look at Pitt's 2023 vs ours.

Pitt: Home – Boston College, Florida State, Louisville, North Carolina; Away – Duke, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

North Carolina: Home – Duke, Miami, Syracuse, Virginia; Away – Clemson, Georgia Tech, NC State, Pitt

If that was this year each of our trio of Clemson/State/Miami is tougher than their best opponent (fsu or wake?). They immediately have a huge adv.

 

[blazers]

Don't really care about playing UVA, but understand why we are.

Since we struggle to get good p5 OOC foes it would've been nice to have Clemson or MIA on there somehow.

 

[WoadBlue]

The three primary partners for each ACC team are as follows:

Boston College: Miami, Pitt, Syracuse

Clemson: Florida State, Georgia Tech, NC State

Duke: North Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest

Florida State: Clemson, Miami, Syracuse

Georgia Tech: Clemson, Louisville, Wake Forest

Louisville: Georgia Tech, Miami, Virginia

Miami: Boston College, Florida State, Louisville

North Carolina: Duke, NC State, Virginia

NC State: Clemson, Duke, North Carolina

Pitt: Boston College, Syracuse, Virginia Tech

Syracuse: Boston College, Florida State, Pitt

Virginia: Louisville, North Carolina, Virginia Tech

Virginia Tech: Pitt, Virginia, Wake Forest

Wake Forest: Duke, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech

 

[WoadBlue]

Since we struggle to get good p5 OOC foes it would've been nice to have Clemson or MIA on there somehow.

We're going to get Miami, FSU, and Clemson all twice every 4 years. If we really wanted to, we could get better OOC games.

I think UNC football needs to shoot to have 2 P4 games OOC every year. I say P4 because I think that without OU and Texas, the Big XII status will drop a great deal.

 

[WoadBlue]

So two teams with best win % meet in the champ, doesn't this put NCSU and FSU at a disadvantage since they have an automatic L every year? And maybe that applies to anyone who lands Clemson during the rotation too. Look at Pitt's 2023 vs ours.

Pitt: Home – Boston College, Florida State, Louisville, North Carolina; Away – Duke, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

North Carolina: Home – Duke, Miami, Syracuse, Virginia; Away – Clemson, Georgia Tech, NC State, Pitt

If that was this year each of our trio of Clemson/State/Miami is tougher than their best opponent (fsu or wake?). They immediately have a huge adv.

To be the best, you must beat the best.

 

[blazers]

To be the best, you must beat the best.

Kinda. But in 2023 it looks like Pitt could skate into the champ gm. Go ahead and pencil them v Clemson Dec '23 based on schedule.

 

[blazers]

If we really wanted to, we could get better OOC games.

Nobody good wants to play a middling team from P5 with decent potential. To be the best you have to beat the best, but a team like UNC is not in anyone's "best" list, so nobody good is looking to enhance their schedule by playing us. Like us, everyone wants either a big name or a cupcake and we're neither.

 

[tarheel0910]

The South's Oldest Rivalry. We do not have enough football tradition to give up such a game. We actually need to hype it.

but understand why we are.

 

[WoadBlue]

Nobody good wants to play a middling team from P5 with decent potential. To be the best you have to beat the best, but a team like UNC is not in anyone's "best" list, so nobody good is looking to enhance their schedule by playing us. Like us, everyone wants either a big name or a cupcake and we're neither.

To get the kind of luster we need, we do not have to beta Bama this year and LSU next. If we could play Ole Miss and the next year Arkansas, we would have done something helpful with scheduling. Basketball Home and Home can be used to arrange optimum football OOC scheduling.

Yes, that means making certain that every basketball booster knows which is most invaluable even after decades of UNC hamstringing its own football, wallowing in mediocrity while supporting all efforts to make and keep UNC basketball as King of the world.

As SEC money ought to show all but the most stupid basketball-onlys and basketball-firsters, football money and power are so much bigger than basketball money and power that when you go whole hog in football and are successful, you can then build basketball from nothing. ESPN now promotes SEC basketball as much and as widely as it does ACC basketball. The reason is that SEC football is 5 (or more) times valuable than ACC basketball.

UNC football has to beat SEC teams, even middling ones, because SEC football is the best. if our basketball team must give up a Home game here and there to play at some SEC gym in order to get football games against SEC teams other than Vanderbilt, then that is what must be done - for the good of the entire athletics department.