ACC has suspended
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The crew should be suspended for the calls made on dook's last drive. Blatantly helped dook get in the end zone (or did he?) before time ran out!
Just another example of the anti-UNC bias we've been discussing. UNC has taken it in the shorts all conf. season ww/ re: to officiating, and not a peep from the league office about it other than "support" for the refs. Now, dook PERHAPS had ONE call go against them in a game where their advantage in penalties called on the opposition was 24 to 5, and people get suspended far and wide.
F dook. I HATE those phony, petulant bastards. Cut can go to hell, and hang out w/ Vlad the Undead Rat.
F dook. I HATE those phony, petulant bastards. Cut can go to hell, and hang out w/ Vlad the Undead Rat.
Watch the last dook offensive drive and you'll see blatant crappy officiating. The problem here is the suspension will come from getting the final play RIGHT! I'm just glad the better team won. If this had gone dook's way, and Miami would have lost? Would they still be suspended?
For the entire crew to be suspended for two games there must have been a procedural error made by the crew. Your guess is as good as mine, but my guess is that they used replay to pick up the block in the back call.
The article I read said they did not, but that they "explained it" improperly. Whatever. They were terrible.
From ESPN:
The ACC announced Sunday it has suspended the on-field officiating crew as well as the replay official and communicator for two games following errors on the final wild play that gave Miami a 30-27 winover Duke on Saturday.
The league acknowledged a series of errors during the play, which featured eight laterals off a Duke kickoff and ended with a 91-yard touchdown run by the Hurricanes'Corn Elder. The outcome of the game, however, cannot be changed.
"The quality of our officiating program is of the highest importance to the league and its schools, and the last play of the game was not handled appropriately," ACC commissioner John Swofford said in a statement. "Officiating is an extraordinarily difficult job, but our players, coaches, programs and fans deserve the best that can be offered. We will continue to strive to meet that standard."
Mark Walton was down before releasing the ball on one of the laterals. If the proper call had been made, the game would have ended in a Duke victory.
Said Duke coach David Cutcliffe after the game: "I'm going to just tell you like it is: I thought the guy was down. And I think pictures will prove me right."
• The on-field officials failed to penalize Miami for an illegal block in the back at the Miami 16-yard line. If called, the ball would have been placed at the Miami 8-yard line and the game would have been extended for an untimed down.
• The on-field crew failed to penalize Miami receiver Rashawn Scott for leaving the bench and running onto the field before the play ended. The penalty would not have negated the touchdown because it would have been enforced as a dead ball foul.
• The block in the back penalty that was called -- at the Duke 26-yard line -- was picked up after the officials conferred, which is appropriate. They correctly determined that the block was from the side. The replay official was not involved in the decision to pick up the flag; however, referee Jerry Magallanes did not effectively manage communication and properly explain why the flag was picked up.
The University of Miami's official athletic department Twitter account didn't take long to weigh in after the ACC's announcement.
The officiating crew included Magallanes, Terrence Ramsay (umpire), Mike Owens (linesman), Jim Slayton (line judge), Robert Luklan (back judge), Bill Dolbow (field judge), Michael McCarthy (side judge), Tracy Lynch (center judge) and George Burton (replay communicator).
The ACC did not include comment on Miami getting penalized an ACC-record 23 times against Duke, including several pass interference calls on the Blue Devils' final drive.
Those calls allowed Duke to keep its drive alive, and resulted in a 1-yard touchdown run by Thomas Sirk with six seconds left. The ACC made no mention about whether the officials made the right call on that touchdown run, also questionable because it was unclear whether Sirk crossed the plane of the goal line.
That touchdown gave Duke a 27-24 lead, and set up the final crazy play that gave Miami the win.
This is a mere question: why is it that the results of the game can't be overturned? This is hypothetical so bare with me and disregard the officiating leading up the last play. If the officials have been suspended, why is it not legal to also enforce those penalties and flip the results of the game?
Yep. If they do that then they have to start at the beginning of the game and with every call/non-call. Then make a ruling on whether the call was wrong or should have been made. Then try and figure out what would happen next, etc, etc.... Officials already influence the outcomes of games entirely too much nowadays, let's not give them more influence.
And/or the authority of the officials on the field would be completely undermined, which would also have disastrous consequences. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.
Can of worms maybe, but if you limit it to last play that effects the outcome, then you could limit how deep in Pandora's box you wpuld venture.
They can't. According to the ACC release, the officials changed the flag after they conferred about whether the block was legal. They're allowed to do that. The review didn't involve the block in the back.
Don't shoot the messenger.
The ACC crew that works Saturday in Chapel Hill will be taking sides with WHOM?? Also, Cut-foart slamming into the officiating, in his public rant, is not supposed to happen. Can't believe that it only took a half-day BEFORE the ACC came to Dook's rescue... What a Kroc...!
Yeah, of course that's what they say. Still though, taking biases out, the crew SERIOUSLY bungled that play. Missed the Miami guy being down and missed on that picked up flag IMO. Still though, that's pretty much par for the course.
This whole episode has been exponetially overblown. Duke was the victim of a bad, but not terrible call. Happens to everyone.
That being said, I hope the Duke players do nothing but think about how they got screwed for the rest of the week.
That being said, I hope the Duke players do nothing but think about how they got screwed for the rest of the week.
I think any objective person will acknowledge that the last play was mishandled significantly which ultimately cost Dook a win. That same objective person will also have to acknowledge that there were 3-5 plays that were equally mishandled that ultimately helped Dook secure a few touchdowns and have even a shot to win the game. All in all, the real loser is the ACC officiating because they suck bottom line. They are only getting flack for this one because it directly affected the outcome of a game. If Miami would have never returned the kick for a score, nothing would have ever been said about the injustice of some of the calls that went against Miami.
For the record, I hate Dook and Miami. Wish they both could have lost.
For the record, I hate Dook and Miami. Wish they both could have lost.
Well, the Dook QB did not ever cross the goal line on my 60-inch Smart TV (in my den). So, actually, Miami WON THE FREAKIN' Game right then and there. No need to even have a kick, (All) in my opinion
