This one is for the lurking blue devils. You can take this quote back to your favorite thr quote board. We are regular season champs and nothing that happens against you head to head will change that. All that talent you have stockpiled and left to rot on the bench has caught up with you. Reap what ye sow.
Acc regular season champs
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8 of 14 years that Roy has been in Chapel Hill, he has won or shared the regular season title. I guess we were the beneficiary of a favorable schedule in all of those years.
Still would be a big downer if Duke beats the Heels twice this year. There is no hiding that. Lets don't kid ourselves. Going into the ACC Tournament with 2 losses to Duke is nothing to be happy about. Lets be real here.
We are being led by our last 2 good recruiting classes. Meeks, Hicks, Berry, Jackson and Pinson were mcdonald all americans. If we dont land Knox, and Berry leaves, then the recruiting woes will show next year.
Next year might not have Championship aspirations, but Roy has some players. Bradley becomes a monster, Theo scores a little more, KW plays just a little better than he did this year, and Felton learns quick with a sophmore Woods. Next year is going to be fun. Maye will be a big part of next year.
Honestly, next year could have the expectations that 2006 had after losing Felton, McCants, May, and Williams to the NBA Lottery. Noone expected ANYTHING out of the freshman class of Tyler Hansbrough, Bobby Frasor, Danny MF Green, Marcus Ginyard, and Mike Copeland. The cupboard was bare with David Noel being the only returning player with significant experience and his "significant" experience was minimal. We all saw how that worked out! The cupboard will be better stocked next year, even if you remove Berry AND Jackson from the roster of possible early entrants.
Thats a lot of unprovens. I agree that it could be fine, but IMO we need to land Knox. We will be lacking interior depth. If we land Knox and Berry returns, all of a sudden we have another final 4 team, with a potential great 2018 recruiting class the following year to keep it rolling
Next year we will be in the conversation for winning the ACC and also a dark horse to go deep in the NCAAT just like always! The sky will not only stay blue if we don't get Knox, it will also stay firmly fixed in the sky!
We already have many pieces in place and Roy has recruited to fill holes well. Knox elevates us to favorites in the Natty, but without him we are still a force to be reckoned with. The only "unprovens" in the scenarios have to do with incoming recruits, we all know there will be improvement from our current peeps!
We already have many pieces in place and Roy has recruited to fill holes well. Knox elevates us to favorites in the Natty, but without him we are still a force to be reckoned with. The only "unprovens" in the scenarios have to do with incoming recruits, we all know there will be improvement from our current peeps!
The dookies are saying the only reason we've done what we've done is because of our schedule. They don't want to give Roy any credit or our team any credit. They have an entire thread dedicated to poking fun of Roy. They've got a thread dedicated to this board that is 144 pages long, another that trashes us because of the NCAA investigation that is 14 pages long, and yet another that mocks UNC fans for having the audacity to think our team would be better than dook this year that is 8 pages long. We're living in their heads, we really should be paying rent.
So talk all the shit you want fellas, they deserve every bit of it and more.
Yeah, saying we only won because of our schedule is hilarious. Their team is an unorganized, uninspiring, group of individual players that don't seem to like playing together very much. We're on a 12-14 month run that they are extremely envious of right now.
Can't wait for this team's tourney run.
First, I am going to go ahead and assume Joel comes back, just to much points to this IMO. Now we will not have Meeks, Hicks, Nate, Stillman, and I don't think it is a stretch at all to realize we will not have Justin either. To me, clearly Justin, Meeks, and Hicks are the hard ones to replace.
Let's take worst case, meaning we do not get Knox or a grad transfer big man. That would mean we have 3 pretty much locked in starters in Joel, Theo, and Tony. means we have to figure out who starts at the power forward spot and the 2 guard spot (I assume Theo at the 3 with no Knox or Justin).
Candidates for our starting power forward spot, Luke may be the favorite out of the gate, he has played exclusively at the 4 this season, acquitted himself pretty well in a reserve role, has been the first big off the bench, even ahead of Tony. Easy to pencil him in as the 4th starter at this point but not sure I would lock that just yet. Huffman, ready to play body, been a while since we got a big man that didn't either have to eat his way in to being able to compete at this level or lose pounds to get there. Body wise Huffman should be ready to compete, nice aggression, looks to pretty much dunk everything or stick back but we have had a lot of bigs that began that way, kinda what Tony is now frankly. But can Huffman add some to his game, can he add a jumper in the mid range he is working it it, jury out. But if his offensive game expands just a little before next season he could make a challenge to Luke for the starting tap, doubtful but lets see how it plays out. Manley maybe, I am not sold he will be nearly as ready but again, we just need to wait and see.
Hicks has not exactly lite up the score boards consistently this season, the foul issues have persisted so the question becomes is he going to be as hard to replace as maybe we would have thought before this season? Luke have given us more than we expected and Hicks not as much as we expected, isn't that true?
The 2 guard spot is IMO going to be a wide open race, I know many think Jalek will come in and claim it but if he does that he will have to beat out kenny and I can see both BRob and 7th getting some time there. I suggest all 3 of those fellas get up a few hundred shots a day in the off season because that starting spot is up for grabs. Even PLatek could carve out room, he may be the best natural shooter of the bunch.
The problem comes in when we go to the bench, how ready will Huffman be, I think more than most expect. How ready will Manley be, you guys know I have a concern there but lets see, maybe the off season is exactly what he needs to get his legs under him but the kid really needs to get stronger physically and get his stamina up. I think our back court wil be fine 2 deep, front court is my worry.
Now if we were to get Knox, it causes a domino effect for us in a good way. Because I would see Knox step in as starter at the wing, frankly it would not hurt my feelings to see Theo start at the 4 so he and Knox could switch off assignments with KNox in more the justin role on offense & Theo taking a big man out in space and toying with him. It then makes it easier to bring Luke in for the same role he has snow, 1st big off the bench at the 4 and not have so much pressure on Huffman to perform right away, kinda similar to the way we have used Tony this season. That would allow Manley to be brought around slowly and I think that may be the better plan.
I think with KNox, we could make another run for the ACC regular season, lower margin for error but depending on what he, Huffman, and jalek can bring as frosh means a lot. With out Knox, it will be tuff, think we could find a way to 3rd in the ACC, maybe with a touch of fortune 2nd depending on our jump shooting, especially from the 2 spot.
Let em cry ! Funny, they want to blame our season on our schedule when we play in the same freakin conference? Was it our schedule that was the difference when we beat NC St by a collective 80+ and they lost to them? Was it our schedule that saw us beat Syracuse, Va Tech rather easy? We have a 2 game lead for the regular season crown, we played the same teams they played, we won more games than they did, the excuses are BS, nothing but crying...
CBS ranks our overall SOS as 18th most difficult, dook's ranked 20th. They rank our OOC SOS 34th, dook's 77th. ESPN ranks our SOS 22nd, dook's 26th. Nuff said.
I would not have wanted to play Florida State and Louisville on the road "earlier" in the season. The Heels probably would beat at least one of these teams if they played them on the road right now. You have to win your home game and the Heels are undefeated at home. Duke lost to NC State at home and they can't blame that on the Heels.
The games against Pitt and NC State on the road were eye openers. Not only did the Heels win, but they won big. You have not seen that in the past. Meeks is a force inside and correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has attempted the weak under the basket bank shot at any time this year. That shot was blocked 75% of the time in the past. Now, he has an assortment of fallback short jumpers and hook shots. You heard it here first, Meeks may get drafted late in the second round and be a role player off the bench for an NBA team.
The games against Pitt and NC State on the road were eye openers. Not only did the Heels win, but they won big. You have not seen that in the past. Meeks is a force inside and correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has attempted the weak under the basket bank shot at any time this year. That shot was blocked 75% of the time in the past. Now, he has an assortment of fallback short jumpers and hook shots. You heard it here first, Meeks may get drafted late in the second round and be a role player off the bench for an NBA team.
The fans of neutral site U are seriously complaining about scheduling? Thats comical.
I'm not buying the unbalanced schedule argument. Last time I checked the tournament wasn't round robin, so it won't be balanced either. I'm guessing the winner isn't going to value it any less because of the lack of balance.
Still absolutely need to win on Saturday night..... but we could be outright champs before tipoff if Louisville wins at home on senior day against ND..... with Wake taking Lou down tonight. Pretty even, tough conference, 10-12 teams deep.
The doochies talking about OUR scheduling??? man THAT is rich These aholes have had a stacked deck, engineered by Vader for almost 30 years. HE has gone out of his way to AVOID scheduling TRUE road games and schedules cupcake after cupcake at home forever and only when FORCED to play true road games has he done so.
The obsession the doochies have over us is well documented by Archer on this thread. There is nothing remotely comparable on this or any other heels site about THEM and Their program. AS Archer says, we live RENT FREE in their tiny little snowflake minds.
The obsession the doochies have over us is well documented by Archer on this thread. There is nothing remotely comparable on this or any other heels site about THEM and Their program. AS Archer says, we live RENT FREE in their tiny little snowflake minds.
They started a thread on Roy Williams saying he got offered the NC State job back when he was with Kansas. Yes, a multiple page thread on that. I got banned for simply calling it like I saw it, a bunch of losers with too much time on their hands.
I agree with everything you said here, no one wanted to play @UL or @FSU earlier in the conference schedule and Duke losing to NC State at home is straight up embarrassing. I posted on DI a couple weeks ago that even if Duke were to win out and win the ACC regular season championship that we should forfeit it simply because of that loss. Congratulations on your conference championship, it definitely is an accomplishment in this conference regardless of unbalanced scheduling... that being said Saturday still means something and I feel like the OP is down playing it quite a bit.
Well big ole thank you to Wake Forest for taking down Lville last night, now if Lville beats ND sat we win the ACC regular season out right no matter what happens when we play duke later sat night. I want Lville to take down ND AND I want us to take down the dukies!
In other words "if we (UNC) loses this Saturday, so what. Still regular season champs."
Congrats on the title. Well deserved. Still, see you Saturday.
I was looking at the tourney bracket yesterday. I don't think Dook can fall that far with a loss. But I could see them in the 5 slot which means if they win against the 12 / 13 winner, and we win against the 8/9 winner, we could see them in the semis.
He's talking about the conference tournament. It's possible, would depend on what other teams do obviously.
There is never a UNC losing to duke "so what" notion, lets be clear about that. No matter what the circumstances may be there is never a situation where UNC fans will find it acceptable for us to lose to duke. But of course we would love to see some of the pressure off of this game, wouldn't you dukies if the roles were reversed? And yes, already having the ACC regular season title wrapped up before we play duke would relieve some of the pressure of that game, would not make is more acceptable lose it because nothing makes losing to duke accepetable.
Right - I am too, as evidenced only by the seeds and possibilities I listed.
Well said, Dave. I have to admit - it is the worst (only) thing that bothers me at all about the Heels program since Roy has been back..... how - at least A.H. (after Hansbrough) - how Duke has inexplicably owned us, and seeming won all or almost all of the "50/50" games. Well, you can even go back to some really fluky games where they beat us when we had the better team (last year, the Zeller / Curry game, etc)...
the results recently just haven't reflected the even-ness of the teams recently. I assume that really has to eat at Roy, and the players. Not saying we can't lose on Sat... obviously we can.... I'd just be surprised if we don't come out with our A game (or B+ game at least) for execution, and A game for effort, heart, intensity. I assume DES will be loud and rocking.... a full day for the fans to get hyped.
Enjoy going from preseason number 1 to 5th or 6th in the acc. What a wonderfull aconplishment for you and your team.
It is. But how you like the way y'all have played with all those OAD 5* recruits AND experienced players too?
Be honest now!
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