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ACC Tournament Seeding Question

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If Pomeroy is right, and we end in a 3-way tie with Wake and Syracuse, how do the tie-breakers work?

We beat Syracuse and split with Wake.

Wake and Syracuse play at Syracuse in their final regular season game. If Wake wins then they, too, will have beaten Syracuse and split with us. Syracuse is out of the running for the 7 seed in this scenario, but how do they decide between UNC and Wake?

Alternatively (and more likely, I think) Wake loses at Syracuse, so now Syracuse has beaten Wake and lost to us. So how does that get resolved?
 
If Pomeroy is right, and we end in a 3-way tie with Wake and Syracuse, how do the tie-breakers work?

We beat Syracuse and split with Wake.

Wake and Syracuse play at Syracuse in their final regular season game. If Wake wins then they, too, will have beaten Syracuse and split with us. Syracuse is out of the running for the 7 seed in this scenario, but how do they decide between UNC and Wake?

Alternatively (and more likely, I think) Wake loses at Syracuse, so now Syracuse has beaten Wake and lost to us. So how does that get resolved?
 
Notre Dame just lost at the buzzer at Virginia. They better jump on the Irish early, or it will get real tense down the stretch on their home court.
 
Thanks. Made my brain hurt, but helpful.

Apparently, if it comes down to us and Wake, it will depend on whether we beat Virginia on Saturday (assuming UVa is in first place at the end of the regular season). We both lost to UVa earlier and Wake doesn't play them again.

Because of said brain pain I haven't tried to figure out the 3-way tie-breaker yet. But I notice that Syracuse lost to UVa twice, so if we also lose twice, that makes Wake look good. Except that Wake lost to Syracuse, so maybe that means they win. But we beat Syracuse, so...

I need a drink.
 
I fully expect UNC to lose to Notre Dame.

I’m usually very optimistic but I too expect a loss in South Bend Wednesday night. I feel more confident about the 2 home games we have left than the 2 road games.
 
I’m usually very optimistic but I too expect a loss in South Bend Wednesday night. I feel more confident about the 2 home games we have left than the 2 road games.
I don't feel confident about either of the home games. UNC could just as easily lose all four as they could win them.
 
In the event of a 3 team tie with Wake and Cuse where Cuse beats Wake we’d win based on a 2-1 record vs the others whilst Cuse is 1-1 and Wake is 1-2.

In the event of a 3 team tie with Wake and Cuse where Wake beats Cuse, Cuse is 0-2 against the others and out of the tiebreak - us and Wake remain tied at 2-1 each. At that point is goes by winning percentage in games against the top of the ACC standings, then 2nd, and so forth until a tie is broken. If we’ve beat UVA, and UVA, Miami, and Pitt finish in any combination of 1,2,3 - we’ll win the tiebreak as we‘d have the only win against any of that group. For these tiebreaks it’s percentage based so 0-2 is the same as 0-1 as .000 is tied with .000.

If we lose to Virginia but still get into a tie with Wake, it’ll come down to our record vs Wake‘s record against whoever finishes 4th and/or climbs into the top 3 of the group of Duke, State, or highly unlikely Clemson. I’d say it’s more likely Clemson slides down into position to be tied with us than moves up, but one never knows I suppose.

I trust that’s crystal clear right lol?
 
In the event of a 3 team tie with Wake and Cuse where Cuse beats Wake we’d win based on a 2-1 record vs the others whilst Cuse is 1-1 and Wake is 1-2.

In the event of a 3 team tie with Wake and Cuse where Wake beats Cuse, Cuse is 0-2 against the others and out of the tiebreak - us and Wake remain tied at 2-1 each. At that point is goes by winning percentage in games against the top of the ACC standings, then 2nd, and so forth until a tie is broken. If we’ve beat UVA, and UVA, Miami, and Pitt finish in any combination of 1,2,3 - we’ll win the tiebreak as we‘d have the only win against any of that group. For these tiebreaks it’s percentage based so 0-2 is the same as 0-1 as .000 is tied with .000.

If we lose to Virginia but still get into a tie with Wake, it’ll come down to our record vs Wake‘s record against whoever finishes 4th and/or climbs into the top 3 of the group of Duke, State, or highly unlikely Clemson. I’d say it’s more likely Clemson slides down into position to be tied with us than moves up, but one never knows I suppose.

I trust that’s crystal clear right lol?
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Da Cuse and Wake lost tonight. Getting the 7 seed would be SO much more preferable.
 
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