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ACC Welcomes Cal, Stanford & SMU Into the Conference

My question is, is this being done to stave off league disbanding and, if so, will it?
 
My question is, is this being done to stave off league disbanding and, if so, will it?
I think it is. If Clemson, FSU and UNC leave, it would just go back to 15. I think some schools were worried about it going down to 12 or less if more than those three leave. But it's not going to save it long term. It will keep the conference around probably, but not in it's current make up.
 
My question is, is this being done to stave off league disbanding and, if so, will it?

League can't disband because of the GOR unless the majorityt of the schools choose to leave. And then, the question is, where would they go?

The only ACC school that would assuredly find a home is UNC. Not enough people realize this.
 
League can't disband because of the GOR unless the majorityt of the schools choose to leave. And then, the question is, where would they go?

The only ACC school that would assuredly find a home is UNC. Not enough people realize this.



UNC, UVA, Clemson, FSU, and ND will get an SEC/B1G invite if they want it.

After that, the next ACC tv deal will stink, which would give the Big 12 leverage to invite some ACC teams. And all indications are the Big 12 does intend to move expand east at some point. I'd guess several ACC teams would fund homes there.
 



UNC, UVA, Clemson, FSU, and ND will get an SEC/B1G invite if they want it.

After that, the next ACC tv deal will stink, which would give the Big 12 leverage to invite some ACC teams. And all indications are the Big 12 does intend to move expand east at some point. I'd guess several ACC teams would fund homes there.

Not as of right now. FSU and Clemson might be appealing to the Big Ten if they can get out of the ACC deeal without much penalty, but they can't.

Even with the B12's new deal, ACC teams are making much more. And trust me on this, the angle is for other chips or half-chips to fall that can also increase revenue. The ACC hasn't had all revenue doors shut. Gotta trust me on this.
 
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@andrew jones, one of the things I found interesting is when you were talking about ads on the ACC network. Does the league not get anything from ads on the ACC network? I figured it was carrier fees and ads. Seems weird to not get money from ads.
 
@andrew jones, one of the things I found interesting is when you were talking about ads on the ACC network. Does the league not get anything from ads on the ACC network? I figured it was carrier fees and ads. Seems weird to not get money from ads.

Not much. ESPN owns the network and is most concerned about carriers. This is something that hasn't come out much publicly, but has been discussed among the schools. It is actually a great way of schools attaining their "true NIL."

If FSU and UNC are worth so much more than BC, it will show in ad revenue. It's an avenue that should be opened.
 
Really getting tired of this site making it hard to post or edit with multiple "Oops" messages.

My previous post is the conference rankings of our new members for the last few years.
 
If ACC teams struggled to improve their NCAAT chances last year because they couldn't get quality wins in conference, imagine how much worse it might get with these additions.

Some might think this is a signal for the better ACC teams to leave. Or maybe a recognition that they are all but gone already?
 
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Now that I've gotten my negative feelings out of the way, I do look forward to playing these new teams.

I wonder if Haase will still be coaching at Stanford when play begins?
 
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I suggest we rename the ACC to the MCC = Multi Coast Conference.

Truth in advertising.

As far as I can tell, there isn't already a MCC conference.
 
I hate the idea of UNC not being in the ACC with a passion! I hate the potential of losing the rivalries I grew up watching. That being said, as long as UNC remains true to its culture, I'll find someone to hate no matter where we end up! No matter how this ultimately shakes out, it is always a GDTBATH!
 
I hate the idea of UNC not being in the ACC with a passion! I hate the potential of losing the rivalries I grew up watching. That being said, as long as UNC remains true to its culture, I'll find someone to hate no matter where we end up! No matter how this ultimately shakes out, it is always a GDTBATH!
If we have to go anywhere, I hope it's to the Big 10. You could almost make the case that they have more teams I want to play than the ACC. In addition to resuming play against Maryland, we'd have regular games against MSU, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, OSU....

If we can hold onto key ACC foes as regular out-of-conference features, I could get on board this idea. Duke, obviously, as well as NC State and UVa. Who else?

I guess what I'm saying is that if we are going to add more bottom-dwellers to the ACC, it might not break my heart to leave, after all.
 
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"SMU will not receive any media rights revenue for 1st 7 years, while Stanford & Cal will receive reduced shares, sources said."

 
Smu won't receive any for 9 years.

30% shares for Stanford and cal the first 7 years. 70% share year 8. 75% share year 9. Full share year 10.

That said, cal is the worst pick up literally possible. They themselves talk about disbanding their football program all the time. Such a bad move.
 
Smu won't receive any for 9 years.

30% shares for Stanford and cal the first 7 years. 70% share year 8. 75% share year 9. Full share year 10.

That said, cal is the worst pick up literally possible. They themselves talk about disbanding their football program all the time. Such a bad move.
SMU is much worse. They aren't even close to being a P4 team. When it looked like the Big 12 was falling apart, they didn't even consider SMU as an option.
 
SMU is much worse. They aren't even close to being a P4 team. When it looked like the Big 12 was falling apart, they didn't even consider SMU as an option.
SMU was a big thing before their death sentence. They have a footprint in Texas for the recruiting hot bed and a Dallas market. They are way better than California as a pickup. California is the real issue here. They literally are the worst and dead weight.

SMU has a bevy of people willing to pour money into that university to make them good. California has just people who want to disband it.
 
SMU was a big thing before their death sentence. They have a footprint in Texas for the recruiting hot bed and a Dallas market. They are way better than California as a pickup. California is the real issue here. They literally are the worst and dead weight.

SMU has a bevy of people willing to pour money into that university to make them good. California has just people who want to disband it.
You're right, they WERE a thing. Teams that can get Texas kids already get them because every game is on TV. WF isn't going to all of a sudden bring in Texas recruits because they'll play in Texas once every four years. Media markets don't mean as much as they used to, but Cal is in a top 10 market. Two conferences that were dying passed on SMU. There's a reason for that. They have no value. The fact that they had to pay the ACC to join proves that.
 
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You're right, they WERE a thing. Teams that can get Texas kids already get them because every game is on TV. WF isn't going to all of a sudden bring in Texas recruits because they'll play in Texas once every four years. Media markets don't mean as much as they used to, but Cal is in a top 10 market. Two conferences that were dying passed on SMU. There's a reason for that. They have no value. The fact that they had to pay the ACC to join proves that.
The Big 12 already has a Texas footprint.

SMU has more viewership despite subpar opponents, timing, and tv time than Houston, Virginia, Virginia Tech, California, and Duke.

With the better opponents, ACC time slots and such, they will get much higher too.

Also, the Big 12 wasn't offered the discount the ACC was. The ACC would have passed also, but with the discount, SMU has 9 years to build their program up with almost unlimited money and become a power. The ACC had zero risk with SMU, only potential positives. California they are paying for an established deadweight. They had all the benefits of being in the Pac-12 to be something, they weren't.
 
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