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Allegedly, tomorrow morning is the vote on Stanford, Cal, SMU

Maybe to finally put an end to the speculation? It could be that the schools who are voting yes think that one of the no votes will flip if they have to make it public. I don't see FSU or Clemson wanting to change. If anyone has flipped, it would be us and/or moo. The rumor is moo will vote how we vote.
 
UNC leaders have the very long history of refusing to see looming big problems (AFAM is an even better example than the many failures in the realm of football and other sports). And when they final are forced top see them problems their go-to response is 'well, as nobody can figure out a perfect solution, one that clearly solves all problems 100%, let's just be safe and do nothing.'

The UNC NO vote on this is that yet again. The status quo ACC is Dead Man Walking (at least as a Major conference). Therefore, waiting for the prefect answer that could be implemented is to guarantee death, because we are now decades too late to be able to make the prefect move to solve the ills. The one thing this addition would mean is some extra money divvied up for a few years, which might buy enough time for something else to play out.

FSU definitely and probably Clemson will vote NO because they want to be able to say that nothing new has been done, and therefore they MUST leave ASAP. UNC voting NO sounds like as stupid a set of reasons as opposing WVU because the roads across WV were awful in 1953. Typical UNC leadership. At worst, it is dissembling and thus cowardly. At best it is ignorant and off base.
 
UNC leaders have the very long history of refusing to see looming big problems (AFAM is an even better example than the many failures in the realm of football and other sports). And when they final are forced top see them problems their go-to response is 'well, as nobody can figure out a perfect solution, one that clearly solves all problems 100%, let's just be safe and do nothing.'

The UNC NO vote on this is that yet again. The status quo ACC is Dead Man Walking (at least as a Major conference). Therefore, waiting for the prefect answer that could be implemented is to guarantee death, because we are now decades too late to be able to make the prefect move to solve the ills. The one thing this addition would mean is some extra money divvied up for a few years, which might buy enough time for something else to play out.

FSU definitely and probably Clemson will vote NO because they want to be able to say that nothing new has been done, and therefore they MUST leave ASAP. UNC voting NO sounds like as stupid a set of reasons as opposing WVU because the roads across WV were awful in 1953. Typical UNC leadership. At worst, it is dissembling and thus cowardly. At best it is ignorant and off base.
I'm confused. You've said multiple times that adding them would be dumb. Now that UNC is against it, you think it's a good idea? The money for this is miniscule, comparatively, after you divide it. Especially if it's based on performance. The only way it makes a huge impact is if almost all of it goes to the top two teams and that's not happening, because that means most of the conference would never see any money. That's only for around seven years. You think that would stop FSU or Clemson from leaving? No, so why add three more teams to split up the pot after those two leave?
 
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Well, we have three new ACC members. No word yet on who flipped their vote. Projected new revenue is $55-$60 million. That's just for seven years until everyone gets an equal share. That's just dumb. FSU and Clemson's share, if they leave, could have been split 13 ways. Now it will be split 16 ways.
 
UNC leaders have the very long history of refusing to see looming big problems (AFAM is an even better example than the many failures in the realm of football and other sports). And when they final are forced top see them problems their go-to response is 'well, as nobody can figure out a perfect solution, one that clearly solves all problems 100%, let's just be safe and do nothing.'

The UNC NO vote on this is that yet again. The status quo ACC is Dead Man Walking (at least as a Major conference). Therefore, waiting for the prefect answer that could be implemented is to guarantee death, because we are now decades too late to be able to make the prefect move to solve the ills. The one thing this addition would mean is some extra money divvied up for a few years, which might buy enough time for something else to play out.

FSU definitely and probably Clemson will vote NO because they want to be able to say that nothing new has been done, and therefore they MUST leave ASAP. UNC voting NO sounds like as stupid a set of reasons as opposing WVU because the roads across WV were awful in 1953. Typical UNC leadership. At worst, it is dissembling and thus cowardly. At best it is ignorant and off base.
Your Football Derangement Syndrome is so tiresome.
 
Does anyone think Notre Dame will EVER become a full time member in football? They seemed to be really pushing for the ACC to add Stanford and Cal. Now they're here! Their NBC contract is up in 2025, I believe. Think there will be any movement there?
 
Does anyone think Notre Dame will EVER become a full time member in football? They seemed to be really pushing for the ACC to add Stanford and Cal. Now they're here! Their NBC contract is up in 2025, I believe. Think there will be any movement there?
Non zero chance that happens anytime soon. If these super conferences ever go to 10 conference games, then they will have to. They aren't going to join a sinking ship, which they would have to do per the contract with the ACC.
 
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Does anyone think Notre Dame will EVER become a full time member in football? They seemed to be really pushing for the ACC to add Stanford and Cal. Now they're here! Their NBC contract is up in 2025, I believe. Think there will be any movement there?
Only if their boosters really HATE the idea of bowing to the BT and they know that they must be conference member in football to have a decent chance to get into the playoffs.
 
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Only if their boosters really HATE the idea of bowing to the BT and they know that they must be conference member in football to have a decent chance to get into the playoffs.
There chance to get into the playoffs will always be excellent now that it's expanded. That's why the ACC should have voted to keep it at four.
 
West Raleigh changed their vote to yes…Good…Now when the SEC comes calling UNC can say F off…
 
I'm confused. You've said multiple times that adding them would be dumb. Now that UNC is against it, you think it's a good idea? The money for this is miniscule, comparatively, after you divide it. Especially if it's based on performance. The only way it makes a huge impact is if almost all of it goes to the top two teams and that's not happening, because that means most of the conference would never see any money. That's only for around seven years. You think that would stop FSU or Clemson from leaving? No, so why add three more teams to split up the pot after those two leave?
IT is the only thing that anybody with any power could come top with. The status quo definteoy emanate a dead, or seriously demoted, ACC within just a few years. Sio trying something is bettr than just smiling was you walk in to sucide.

I've screaming for 2 decades straight that this day as coming - unless a couple of drastic moves were made for football, as football is understood inn the SEC. Meaning the CC must trade its biggest dead weights in terms of football fan bases for schools that state land grant and/or flagship, either in states with huge football support down through HS or else that themselves have larger than ACC average football fan bases. The day was coming when Wake no longer could be in a Major conference - if you had kept Wake, you were no longer going to be Major.

Here it is. I doubt there is any hope now for the ACC to accounted a Major conference after 2030. But as I do not want token either SEC or BT, I am going to want the ACC to keep trying to make moves to save the league. I believe 100% that Wake must be gone for that to happen. I also believe 100% that BC also must be gone for that to happen.

UNC now must act to both save the ACC and also see about securing either SEC or BT with Dook, Moo (the state needs that) and UVA if nobody else from the ACC.

The ACC Tournament is not saving anything worth saving. It never had the power to do so.
 
There chance to get into the playoffs will always be excellent now that it's expanded. That's why the ACC should have voted to keep it at four.
I wasn't for 12. In fact, I opposed the 4 team playoff. The BCS system worked well and kept things fairly stable.
 
I'm confused. You've said multiple times that adding them would be dumb. Now that UNC is against it, you think it's a good idea? The money for this is miniscule, comparatively, after you divide it. Especially if it's based on performance. The only way it makes a huge impact is if almost all of it goes to the top two teams and that's not happening, because that means most of the conference would never see any money. That's only for around seven years. You think that would stop FSU or Clemson from leaving? No, so why add three more teams to split up the pot after those two leave?
Dude is a troll has been for years…I suspect he is a west Raleigh fan…Only post when things are bad…Let UNC beat little Carolina and get off to a 4-0 start and see how many threads he starts…Did the same thing in 2015….Bashed us for the L at the start and then shut up for 11 games…
 
Dude is a troll has been for years…I suspect he is a west Raleigh fan…Only post when things are bad…Let UNC beat little Carolina and get off to a 4-0 start and see how many threads he starts…Did the same thing in 2015….Bashed us for the L at the start and then shut up for 11 games…
Your ignorance of 2015 is not surprising, I spent the entire season noting all the many problems in the Ws over nobodies and predicted that they would eventually flourish in a big ugly way.

What is promising now is that Mack has made major changes to the poor staff he originally installed at UNC. That staff never could have done what too gates to win the ACC. This staff is definitely stronger, and it may now be gelling so well that it may play for the title this year.
 
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