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Raising Heel

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I'm looking at buying a used car that has been in a couple minor accidents. Is there anything the dealer can provide me for peace of mind the thing won't break down after I drive it off the lot? A warranty only covers defects in parts and workmanship, so what are my options here?

I'm definitely going to take it to my mechanic for an inspection. Man, I hate buying and selling cars.
 
I'm looking at buying a used car that has been in a couple minor accidents. Is there anything the dealer can provide me for peace of mind the thing won't break down after I drive it off the lot? A warranty only covers defects in parts and workmanship, so what are my options here?

I'm definitely going to take it to my mechanic for an inspection. Man, I hate buying and selling cars.
Taking it to your mechanic is the smartest thing to do. Make sure to let him know to specifically check for any damage that could have been caused by an accident. I'm assuming you have the carfax report, which should tell you where the damage is/was. Does NC have lemon laws? They have them in GA which gives you some recourse if the car craps out on you for an undisclosed reason.
 
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I've got the CarFax report, which is how I found out about the damage since the dealer didn't explicitly disclose it. And yes, NC has lemon laws.

Confession: The dealership tried to pull the usual hustle on me. It started when the sales guy told me the sticker price was non-negotiable. Then the finance guy tried to tell me the sticker price didn't include ~$2k in refurbishing costs. I told him he was FOS, so then the manager comes over and tells me they can waive the fee, like he was doing me a big favor. I know that's standard practice, but it's a terrible way of doing business. I took personal offense to the fact they thought I was that effing stupid, so I want something to shove back in their faces. I want them begging me to buy that car.
 
I've got the CarFax report, which is how I found out about the damage since the dealer didn't explicitly disclose it. And yes, NC has lemon laws.

Confession: The dealership tried to pull the usual hustle on me. It started when the sales guy told me the sticker price was non-negotiable. Then the finance guy tried to tell me the sticker price didn't include ~$2k in refurbishing costs. I told him he was FOS, so then the manager comes over and tells me they can waive the fee, like he was doing me a big favor. I know that's standard practice, but it's a terrible way of doing business. I took personal offense to the fact they thought I was that effing stupid, so I want something to shove back in their faces. I want them begging me to buy that car.
Financing? We don't play that here. Straight cash homie!

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I don't think there's much you can do on a used car other than pre-purchase diligence. Everything I've seen about the third-party used-car warranties points to it being a scam.

Have a mechanic look it over and give you his take; if there's damage/an accident on the CarFax use that as a bargaining tool to get a little bit more off the price. And don't hesitate to walk out; that should get them moving unless they already have other buyers for that car. (Disclaimer: that exact thing happened to me last time I bought a car. I wasn't sure and left, with the intention of talking it over at home. A day later they'd already sold it. So if this is the car that makes your little heart go pitty-pat, this may not be the strategy for you. But otherwise, give it a try.)

P.S. Post the link to the car, inquiring minds etc. etc.
 
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So if this is the car that makes your little heart go pitty-pat, this may not be the strategy for you.
Not at all. I already have two cars, one of which I'm actively trying to sell. The primary point of the purchase is to get a tow vehicle so I can buy an RV. While I'm excited about making that a reality, I'm in no hurry whatsoever and will walk away from a bad deal without losing a wink of sleep.

P.S. Post the link to the car, inquiring minds etc. etc.
No.
 
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In the last year, I’ve bought 3 vehicles (2 used, 1 new). In each instance, I found the car I was looking for at an out-of-town dealer, so I called them and told them what I was willing to pay for an out-the-door price; and then basically ignored them. I typically went really low, thinking I’d never hear from them again, but after a few days most of them were calling me and working to get the deal I wanted. I ended up within a few hundred dollars in all three occasions and walked away with a deal that was better than what average people pay according to truecar, etc. websites.

The Two main things, IMO:
1. Do your research (blue book value, car fax, etc) - sounds like you already are.
2. Be PATIENT! If you don’t play their game, they will come calling; especially next week as it gets closer to the end of the month. I’ve walked out of dealerships before over a few hundred dollars where they refused to come down to my price but ultimately I ended up with a better car for a better price somewhere else.
 
I'm looking at buying a used car that has been in a couple minor accidents. Is there anything the dealer can provide me for peace of mind the thing won't break down after I drive it off the lot? A warranty only covers defects in parts and workmanship, so what are my options here?

I'm definitely going to take it to my mechanic for an inspection. Man, I hate buying and selling cars.

Yes, but a dealer warranty is going to depend on the age of the car. It will probably also cost something.

I'm pretty sure you have 48 hours or something to have it checked out by a mechanic you trust. The problem is, with a used car, that what can cost you the most is almost impossible for the mechanic to check- transmission and engine rods.

The thing you should worry about is whether or not the frame was damaged in the "minor accident". Tell the mechanic to check for that.

Funny this thread should come up today- my 4Runner broke in half last week- literally. The frame rusted through and the only thing holding the back of the car onto the front was a piece of half inch welding. Had to sell it for scrap. One of the saddest days of my automotive life was seeing her get pulled away by a tow truck.
 
In the last year, I’ve bought 3 vehicles (2 used, 1 new). In each instance, I found the car I was looking for at an out-of-town dealer, so I called them and told them what I was willing to pay for an out-the-door price; and then basically ignored them. I typically went really low, thinking I’d never hear from them again, but after a few days most of them were calling me and working to get the deal I wanted. I ended up within a few hundred dollars in all three occasions and walked away with a deal that was better than what average people pay according to truecar, etc. websites.

The Two main things, IMO:
1. Do your research (blue book value, car fax, etc) - sounds like you already are.
2. Be PATIENT! If you don’t play their game, they will come calling; especially next week as it gets closer to the end of the month. I’ve walked out of dealerships before over a few hundred dollars where they refused to come down to my price but ultimately I ended up with a better car for a better price somewhere else.

#2- yes. If you don't get up and walk out at least once, you are leaving money on the table.
 
Funny this thread should come up today- my 4Runner broke in half last week- literally. The frame rusted through and the only thing holding the back of the car onto the front was a piece of half inch welding. Had to sell it for scrap. One of the saddest days of my automotive life was seeing her get pulled away by a tow truck.
Damn, man. RIP 4Runner. I'm going to cry the day my 2003 Xterra ("The Mule") goes belly up.

So are you shopping for new cars?
 
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Damn, man. RIP 4Runner. I'm going to cry the day my 2003 Xterra ("The Mule") goes belly up.

So are you shopping for new cars?

I really did have to fight back tears. I left the Steal Your Face license plate on the front too- I know I would have cried if I had taken that off.

Actually, the new job provides me with a truck. I am picking up a brand new F150 today- I just picked out the one I wanted within budget and the company took care of the rest
 
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Damn, man. RIP 4Runner. I'm going to cry the day my 2003 Xterra ("The Mule") goes belly up.

So are you shopping for new cars?

Also, Edmunds is phenomenal for giving appraisals on used cars. You should be able to get the private party price at the very least. Whenever I have bought a used car, I have printed it out, showed it to the dealer (if he was being difficult) and told him this is what I was basing my number on and he could take it or leave it. Never had one leave it.

https://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/
 
In the last year, I’ve bought 3 vehicles (2 used, 1 new). In each instance, I found the car I was looking for at an out-of-town dealer, so I called them and told them what I was willing to pay for an out-the-door price; and then basically ignored them. I typically went really low, thinking I’d never hear from them again, but after a few days most of them were calling me and working to get the deal I wanted. I ended up within a few hundred dollars in all three occasions and walked away with a deal that was better than what average people pay according to truecar, etc. websites.

The Two main things, IMO:
1. Do your research (blue book value, car fax, etc) - sounds like you already are.
2. Be PATIENT! If you don’t play their game, they will come calling; especially next week as it gets closer to the end of the month. I’ve walked out of dealerships before over a few hundred dollars where they refused to come down to my price but ultimately I ended up with a better car for a better price somewhere else.
Good stuff, thanks. Yes, I did research ahead of time, figured out the price I wanted to pay, then plugged in the terms to get to the monthly payment I wanted. They already called me this morning saying that -- lo and behold -- they figured out a way to make it happen (I knew they would).

#2- yes. If you don't get up and walk out at least once, you are leaving money on the table.
Did that yesterday, mostly because I was trying to get home to watch the game. Ha! As mentioned earlier, there is -0- rush on this for me so I don't mind dragging it out for a while.
 
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Patience is the Cross, clove of garlic and holy water to use against a car salesman. The only thing he can do is leverage your excitement (unless he is selling it at less than true market price)
 
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#2- yes. If you don't get up and walk out at least once, you are leaving money on the table.
Yep. I had one place that wouldn't come down $1k on a used car and I walked. Those clowns had it on their lot for about 2-3 months and then lowered the price by $1200. I ended up finding the same year model, color, trim package, etc. with less mileage for the price I wanted somewhere else.
 
They'll make u sign an "as is no warranty" statement. Nc lemon laws DO NOT APPLY TO USED CARS. Once u drive it off the lot u have zero legal recourse UNLESS it was misrepresented in its description or title and u have proof. Even then u have to sue them if they wanna fight it.

Flooded cars is the big scam to watch for. Dealers legallly buy em for nothing then alter the titles. A good mechanic can spot the signs.
 
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Lol. Why do you ask whether I'm dead set on an Armada then?
Oh I was just wondering if there was something(s) about the Armada, specifically, that appealed to you and separated it from similar SUVs from other manufacturers, being that you're in no rush to make this decision but are pretty gung ho on this particular car you've found.
 
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Oh I was just wondering if there was something(s) about the Armada, specifically, that appealed to you and separated it from similar SUVs from other manufacturers, being that you're in no rush to make this decision but are pretty gung ho on this particular car you've found.

He likes his current Nissan as much as I loved my 4Runner and needs something big enough to pull an RV.

Just a guess- amirite RH??
 
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Oh I was just wondering if there was something(s) about the Armada, specifically, that appealed to you and separated it from similar SUVs from other manufacturers, being that you're in no rush to make this decision but are pretty gung ho on this particular car you've found.

He likes his current Nissan as much as I loved my 4Runner and needs something big enough to pull an RV.

Just a guess- amirite RH??
Never thought of myself as a Nissan guy per se, but my two most beloved cars were a 1994 Sentra ("Pooh") and a 2003 Xterra ("The Mule"). Both have just run and run and run without any trouble beyond the usual servicing and parts replacements. Before I moved out of Knoxville, I sold my Sentra on the cheap to my mechanic who then loaned it out to a battered women's shelter.

The biggest selling points for the Armada are 1) it has an absurd towing capacity for an SUV (9,200 lbs.), 2) the entire cargo area can be folded flat to accommodate dogs, and 3) I can get one for a very reasonable price with a lot of nice options.

I hope you like it because that might be what we drive to tailgates this year.
 
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I hope you like it because that might be what we drive to tailgates this year.
[insert lack of manhood joke here] But I'm not really a car guy. If it runs well and doesn't break down, it's cool by me. I do think that, in general, Japanese-made cars are reliable as all get out. I've had the same Mazda 3 since 2007 and have driven it pretty rough over the years and it's not only still running just fine, it's also literally saved my life a couple times.

Also, that towing capacity is in tents!
 
Sitting in the dealership now waiting (naturally) for them to finish cleaning the new truck and gassing her up. Then a 400 mile road trip tomorrow.
 
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Have you explored used landrovers? They have great towing capacity as well


And are 3 times as costly to fix as basically any other car on the road. They're dope, just too costly to maintain.

But the Armada is not a good car. My wife was the Director of Marketing for the local Nissan dealership for several years and said that they had a ton of angry Armada customers. Plus, it gets low marks in most reports I've seen regarding anything other than cargo space.

I'm a big Acura fan. My MDX (2004) is the best most reliable car I've ever owned. I'll never get rid of it. But it might be smaller than what you're looking for. If that's the case, I recommend a Tahoe (Yukon). You can't go wrong with one of those.
 
And are 3 times as costly to fix as basically any other car on the road. They're dope, just too costly to maintain.

But the Armada is not a good car. My wife was the Director of Marketing for the local Nissan dealership for several years and said that they had a ton of angry Armada customers. Plus, it gets low marks in most reports I've seen regarding anything other than cargo space.

I'm a big Acura fan. My MDX (2004) is the best most reliable car I've ever owned. I'll never get rid of it. But it might be smaller than what you're looking for. If that's the case, I recommend a Tahoe (Yukon). You can't go wrong with one of those.

I had an Acura once- great car but I think he needs an 8 cylinder SUV.

BTW, this spanking new F150 is awesome.
 
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But it might be smaller than what you're looking for. If that's the case, I recommend a Tahoe (Yukon). You can't go wrong with one of those.
FWIW, we rented a Yukon for Christmas to drive up to North Carolina (since we had a dog with us) and as big as that bad boy is/looks, there's surprisingly little to no leg room in that thing. I was really surprised.
 
My family only bought American for years and years, primarily Chevy/GMC. We had station wagons, vans, a Chevette, a Caprice Classic, an S-10 Blazer, etc. Every one of those damn things was in the shop constantly. The engine on the Blazer actually exploded while driving...just burst into flames. Circa 1990 my mom bought a Toyota Camry and the rest is history. Call me un-American but I buy Japanese and have never had a lick of trouble.
 
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The Pathfinders prior to the newest version might be worth looking at, if the towing capacity is sufficient. My buddy used one as his daily vehicle and also to transport/deliver a couple thousand pounds of magazines on a regular basis. But they're not V8 so your caravan may be too big.
 
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