Bama after Gregg Marshall
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They definitely have the money to offer, and they willl offer it to neutralize Auburn having Bruce Pearl.
Marshall is reported to have turned down offers by Cal, Tennessee, and Mizzou. Why would Bama be a better job than Mizzou or even Tennessee?
It would shock me if Marshall left the Shockers for Bama. If he leaves it's going to be for a blue blood OR a school with family ties.
Not enough money in the world. Tuscaloosa is an armpit and honestly a lateral move at best.
Plus, Marshall strikes me as too honest for that cheat factory. If he takes it my opinion of him will drop considerably.
Plus, Marshall strikes me as too honest for that cheat factory. If he takes it my opinion of him will drop considerably.
No way he should take that. He's in line for a big time job in the next few years. And going to Bama could tarnish some of his image as the next big thing. He's got a good thing going right now.
He could see it as a great opening with major possibility. Florida is down, and nobody else has stepped up to compete with UK even halfway. The right coach at Bama could get that job done. Bama has been as far as the Elite 8.
But the same thing could have been said of Tennessee and especially Missouri. At Mizzou, Marshall would have played before a full gym of some 14,000-15,000 almost every game. And he would have been perfectly positioned to recruit both the South and the midwest.
Marshall may be itching to move into a P5 league, and this might be the best offer this year.
But to answer your question Woad, if I were Marshall, Bama would be an intriguing offer to at least do your homework on and consider. Tons of money in that athletic department, and Alabama's football dominance gives you a leg-up even in basketball recruiting -- much like Carolina Basketball helps Carolina Football's recruiting because of brand recognition, the Carolina-Duke game, Etc. Plus, the SEC is trying to up its game in basketball.
I don't know if I'd ultimately take it, but to me, it's an intriguing offer if true.
I don't know if I'd ultimately take it, but to me, it's an intriguing offer if true.
All I'm saying is that he will have better offers in the next couple of years. Personally, I wouldn't leave Wichita St for Bama all things being equal. Now, if the money is a substantial increase, then I'd have to think about it. But Anthony Grant was once the next big thing. He went to Bama and it ruined him. He'll never get a big time offer now because he wasn't able to succeed there. On one hand, I agree with THN11 that a big time football program can help basketball recruiting. But by that same token, a big time football program can overshadow the basketball program to where no one cares about it and that makes it hard to generate excitement and be successful.
Tom Crean isn't going to last at IU. That job will be available soon. That would be a great fit for Marshall. He knows the lay of the land in the midwest. Illinois, Purdue, Georgetown, Georgia Tech, OK St and a few others are all jobs that could open up very soon and IMO, are all better jobs than the Bama job.
Now Georgia Tech is a very interesting and intriguing possibility. It's been rumored by local sports talk people that sources at GT have admitted that GT's AD Bobinski wanted Brian Greggory out after this season and had the money lined up from GT's high rollers to afford firing Greggory and to pay off his contract AND the rest of Hewitt's contract still (LOL).....but the higher ups in the GT administration overrode Bobinsky and squashed that move.
So BG gets one more year, simply because his contract will be cheaper to pay off after next season. That timeline could be perfect for Marshall. Say he does a solid job next season -- solid job = making the tournament since all those upperclassmen will be gone for the most part -- showing that he can sustain a program and not just rely on 1-2 good classes.....then the GT job opens up. Not a blueblood, but a school with good basketball history, nonetheless. And a chance to compete against blueblood programs where he can still employ his "blue collar vs the bluebloods" outlook. Could be interesting.
I'm not sure Marshall could recruit Atlanta though. Just a hunch.
nick saban is a control freak who was hired to clean up bama athletics and he has done that. in basketball bama has some history of top ten finishes so the potential is there. as a richmonder observing grant, i thought he was overrated and his success at VCU was mostly from being in a basketball rich area. for a really good coach the bama job is a nice opportunity -- not just for the money.
Not even close to being true, bro. Not even in the same universe close.
Auburn = GREAT college town, great place to live / beautiful new arena / hungry, welcoming fan base
bama = None of the above
Fact.
David, we both remember Greg when he was at Winthrop. He had a couple of student/athletes on his teams that were real head
scratchers. And I mean that in the least complimentary manner!
We used to kid around about the gun and knife show that followed the team.
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scratchers. And I mean that in the least complimentary manner!
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auburn has a new arena, that is a fact. but your other assumptions that tuscaloosa is not a great place to live, and bama doesn't have a nice arena, and their fan base would not welcome a winning basketball team -- those are biased opinions, not facts.
Yep Tom, you do know what I am talking bout, BTW, I said Woffard & intended to say Winthrop, had another senior moment!Originally posted by Tom79:
David, we both remember Greg when he was at Winthrop. He had a couple of student/athletes on his teams that were real head
scratchers. And I mean that in the least complimentary manner!We used to kid around about the gun and knife show that followed the team.
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Thank you Jimmy, you saved me the trouble of pointing that out. I get it gary, you're an Auburn guy. But you're so biased on this that it's ridiculous.
I've been to Auburn and Tuscaloosa several times. In terms of being a good place to live, the difference is negligible. You opine that Auburn is a great college town, and that's fine. It's a valid opinion. But pretty much ALL college towns are nice places to live.
We'll agree to disagree that Alabama would be a lateral move for Marshall. Power 5 conference? Check. Lots of $$$$ to support program, provided you prove you can be, or are, a winner? Check. Conference where you can compete within 2 seasons? Check. History of making the NCAA Tournament? Check -- 6x since 2000 and 20x overall (compared to Auburn's 2 and 8, respectively).
Bama is a school on the rise in every way, with football as the catalyst. Applicant numbers are way, way up. Out-of-state enrollment accounts for more than in-state enrollment now, which, coupled with increased application rate, will lead to Bama's admission standards going up. Etc. Etc. Marshall could do well there. The only question is if he can recruit at a Power 5 school. In terms of support, he'd get a ton at Bama, in my opinion.
Also, LOL at an Auburn guy criticizing Alabama for cheating. Just LOL. I'm gonna leave that one alone but it's amusing for sure
Zero reason why Texas shouldn't be an Elite 8 contender every single season. Barnes is doing a pathetic job there.
A lot of fans at State won't forgive Yow for low-balling Marshall and Lee Fowler never even gave him a look when we settled on Sid Lowe in the greatest tragic comedy known to mankind in 2006 (which I am share you guys enjoyed).... but I don't know if it was a blessing in disguise. I have heard from multiple people familiar with Winthrop through UNCA and Coastal Carolina that Marshall is a complete egomaniac and wasn't too friendly or likable... Buzz Peterson and Eddie Biedenbach, who pretty much get along with everyone, weren't fond of him from what I gather. Possibly professional jealousy, but he is not the statesman mold that most successful Tobacco Road coaches tend to be, Doesn't mean he cannot win big in the SEC or Big XII.
Also, Bama and other SEC schools are ready to back the Brinks trucks in, no reason they can't emulate the success of UF a few years ago, Arkansas in the 90's, and Kentucky with sustained success.
And can anyone tell me why Ga Tech isn't looking for a new coach?
And can anyone tell me why Ga Tech isn't looking for a new coach?
Yup. They don't want to pay for 3 coaches at the same time. Tech is not considered the position that it once was. Everyone is raiding the Atlanta area for talent. No real advantage to staying home considering the high percentage of transplants.
Hey now!! I answered this question already like 7 posts up ^^ I'll re-post
"Now Georgia Tech is a very interesting and intriguing possibility. It's been rumored by local sports talk people that sources at GT have admitted that GT's AD Bobinski wanted Brian Greggory out after this season and had the money lined up from GT's high rollers to afford firing Greggory and to pay off his contract AND the rest of Hewitt's contract still (LOL).....but the higher ups in the GT administration overrode Bobinsky and squashed that move.
So BG gets one more year, simply because his contract will be cheaper to pay off after next season....."
GT really hurt its basketball, but it can come back. It takes the right coach, who will have the 2 things that Cremins had: an ability to win big often against the odds, and an ability to connect with students and alums and general basletball fans.
If, for example, GT in 2011 had hired Gregg Marsall after his first 4 years at Wichita St, rather than hiring Gregory, GT now might be in the Sweet 16 and would have played this year before sell out crowds.
Unless Bama just offers an insane amount of money, I don't see Marshall seriously considering them. With the success at WS, he has put himself the #1 candidate for much bigger jobs like Texas and Indiana where he doesn't have to rebuild from nothing. And I don't know what it is with Marshall, but there is monkey on the wrench somewhere with this guy. Everyone knew he was a good coach, and a winner, when he was at Winthrop. Marshall basically was begging for the job at both USC and Clemson when they came open a few years back. Both times when they hired Horn, and Martin, at USC. At Clemson when they hired Brownell. Neither school would Ben so much as give him an interview. So something is amiss there. But the guy can flat out coach.
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