Brandon Ingram

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

Pretty much what we all suspected.

http://collegespun.com/acc/north-carolina/5-star-sf-admits-he-would-have-committed-to-unc-already-if-not-for-ncaa-sanction-questions

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

I also think it's telling that he hasn't committed elsewhere. Has to make me think that the Heels lead for his services if the NCAA doesn't screw it up.

 

[BillyL]

There's also the possibility that any sanctions that UNC would receive, may not be levied against us until after either Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram left for the league (if they are truly a one and done talent). As slow as the NCAA moves with its' notifiications and the what may be lengthy appeals processes, both or either could be long gone from the college ranks before a school would be forced to serve any penalty(s).

Ingram may be saying it is the NCAA cloud, when in fact, he ultimately may be waiting to see who is on the rosters of dOOk and UNC for next season. There's absolutely no way that he will have any greater knowledge in April or May of this year as to wait the NCAA is possibly thinking.

Any finality from the NCAA could very well go very deep into 2016 . . and from what I have read or been told, if the NCAA wants to punish us, that Bubba Cunningham is willing to battle them in court over any sanctions.

Ingram is using the NCAA as a smokescreen IMO, he's waiting to see who leaves and who stays at the final 2 on his list.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

Originally posted by BillyL:

There's also the possibility that any sanctions that UNC would receive, may not be levied against us until after either Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram left for the league (if they are truly a one and done talent). As slow as the NCAA moves with its' notifiications and the what may be lengthy appeals processes, both or either could be long gone from the college ranks before a school would be forced to serve any penalty(s).

Ingram may be saying it is the NCAA cloud, when in fact, he ultimately may be waiting to see who is on the rosters of dOOk and UNC for next season. There's absolutely no way that he will have any greater knowledge in April or May of this year as to wait the NCAA is possibly thinking.

Any finality from the NCAA could very well go very deep into 2016 . . and from what I have read or been told, if the NCAA wants to punish us, that Bubba Cunningham is willing to battle them in court over any sanctions.

Ingram is using the NCAA as a smokescreen IMO, he's waiting to see who leaves and who stays at the final 2 on his list.

Well, there's that too! lol

Seriously though, I can't fault the kid for wanting to make a decision to optimize his success. The truth is though that Carolina is the best choice regardless of the other options.

 

[Bur-Heel]

yeah,I read where he mentioned who's on the roster will factor in to his decision

 

[keysersosay#1]

heard an interview with some recruiting guru who made a key point IMO. The roster at DOOk really is key in all of this. This guy said if the Punk known as Winslow goes to the NBA, then Ingram is a dookie

 

[gunslingerdick]

Originally posted by BillyL:

There's also the possibility that any sanctions that UNC would receive, may not be levied against us until after either Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram left for the league (if they are truly a one and done talent). As slow as the NCAA moves with its' notifiications and the what may be lengthy appeals processes, both or either could be long gone from the college ranks before a school would be forced to serve any penalty(s).

Brandon Ingram is not a one-and-done talent at any school - let alone UNC. Brown on the other hand could be. Not sure he'll be if he attends UNC.

Originally posted by BillyL:

Ingram may be saying it is the NCAA cloud, when in fact, he ultimately may be waiting to see who is on the rosters of dOOk and UNC for next season. There's absolutely no way that he will have any greater knowledge in April or May of this year as to wait the NCAA is possibly thinking.

Agree. And that doesn't bode well for us. Because duke's roster will be seriously depleted after losing Cook, Okafor, Winslow and probably Jones. I'm sure duke fans aren't thinking of next year yet, but WTF? K cannot be content going into next season with Matt Jones as the best returning player. And neither Jeter nor Kennard are one-and-done talents. They're both very good players. But they are a far cry from Okafor, Winslow and Jones.

 

[TraBuch]

Originally posted by gunslingerdick:

Originally posted by BillyL:

There's also the possibility that any sanctions that UNC would receive, may not be levied against us until after either Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram left for the league (if they are truly a one and done talent). As slow as the NCAA moves with its' notifiications and the what may be lengthy appeals processes, both or either could be long gone from the college ranks before a school would be forced to serve any penalty(s).

Brandon Ingram is not a one-and-done talent at any school - let alone UNC. Brown on the other hand could be. Not sure he'll be if he attends UNC.

Not saying that he is a one and done talent (That's impossible to say until we see how he plays in college), but he's definitely said he wants to be one and done and he's REALLY impressing NBA scouts in the McDonald's AA practices so you never know. His big thing has always been effort, so if he goes to college with the mentality that he wants to be one and done, I'm thinking he'll put in a lot of effort and live up to his potential.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/582578981154717698
https://twitter.com/Rob_Harrington/status/582563966053969920
https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/582577717381632000

 

[ChapelHeeled]

Could be that the media driven mess that UNC has been involved with was a problem to Ingram. However, he is a two year player at best UNLESS he fills out his body fully from where it is today. I like the kid. However, "K" ay may have an edge because of possible playing time. Lest Ingram forget the story of Rasheed Suliamon and playing time as well. Certainly far from the first to have his role redefined at Dook. Then again, he may actually be saying that UNC was in his heart but for our troubles he would have been a Tar Heel for life. Guess that we will see...

 

[gunslingerdick]

Originally posted by TraBuch:

Originally posted by gunslingerdick:

Originally posted by BillyL:

There's also the possibility that any sanctions that UNC would receive, may not be levied against us until after either Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram left for the league (if they are truly a one and done talent). As slow as the NCAA moves with its' notifiications and the what may be lengthy appeals processes, both or either could be long gone from the college ranks before a school would be forced to serve any penalty(s).

Brandon Ingram is not a one-and-done talent at any school - let alone UNC. Brown on the other hand could be. Not sure he'll be if he attends UNC.

Not saying that he is a one and done talent (That's impossible to say until we see how he plays in college), but he's definitely said he wants to be one and done and he's REALLY impressing NBA scouts in the McDonald's AA practices so you never know. His big thing has always been effort, so if he goes to college with the mentality that he wants to be one and done, I'm thinking he'll put in a lot of effort and live up to his potential.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/582578981154717698
https://twitter.com/Rob_Harrington/status/582563966053969920
https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/582577717381632000

Ok, let me put this differently. Could Ingram be drafted after just one year? I guess. I've seen some really unskillful players drafted throughout the years just because they're 6'9 and can shoot the rock. So a better way of expressing my thoughts on his talent would be to say that "Brandon Ingram couldn't begin to think about playing professional ball after just one year in college. I doubt he could make a roster after just having played one year in college. In fact, the idea that Brandon Ingram could play pro ball after just one year in college is befuddling to me." Simply put, I do not believe that Brandon Ingram is a one-and-done talent.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

So nice ofUSA Basketball to extend this roster spot. Who would have thunk it so...?

Fine Addition...

 

[TarheelJSC]

I have watched Brandon play on a couple of occasions. I would love have him come to the Hill, but I doubt he does. I live about 25 minutes from Kinston and he has visited several local teams here during the season. From what everyone here has been hearing, NC State appears to have as good a chance as any at this point.

 

[imajericho]

Originally posted by TarheelJSC:
I have watched Brandon play on a couple of occasions. I would love have him come to the Hill, but I doubt he does. I live about 25 minutes from Kinston and he has visited several local teams here during the season. From what everyone here has been hearing, NC State appears to have as good a chance as any at this point.

He is definitely going to stay in state.

I think he ends up at Duke. Hopefully not though.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

I think at the end of the day Stackhouse and Bullock help land this kid at UNC.

 

[scoutsupreme]

All I know is if we lose this kid from a UNC pipeline school like Kinston it would truely suck.....Giles too.

 

[Spaceytoyz]

I think the Heels are out of the mix now and are listed as a token Choice at this point...

 

[BillyL]

Originally posted by Spaceytoyz:

I think the Heels are out of the mix now and are listed as a token Choice at this point...

We'll see . . last I heard(3 days back) we are very much in it for BI.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

Great Pic...

twoknew

 

[gunslingerdick]

Originally posted by ChapelHeeled:






Great Pic...

If that happens just 3 years ago, those two are UNC locks.

Great pic.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Think you mean 3 DAYS ago not years.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

guys, other than stackhouse and bullock, what Kinston guys have come to unc?

 

[Bur-Heel]

google it!!

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Ain't that enough Boogie?

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
Ain't that enough Boogie?

is that it irby?

 

[BillyL]

Originally posted by BOOGIEMAN1914:

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
Ain't that enough Boogie?

is that it irby?

That's plenty . .

 

[diehard34]

Don't blame the kid one bit. Coming from shady ass Kinston where I grew up. I wouldn't take any chances either.

 

[Sk1310]

Ingram told Jerry Meyer today that he would like to know the penalties before potentially committing. Good or bad news? Good that maybe he was told a decision on potential penalties could come soon, or bad because there isn't a resolution in the near future and we could be eliminated?

 

[keysersosay#1]

The NCAA is gonna cost us this young man and his services.

 

[BillyL]

Originally posted by keysersosay#1:

The NCAA is gonna cost us this young man and his services.

Max,

I can't blame the NCAA for our problems, most of it had to do with our administration's lack of oversight . . much, if, not all of the blame for our recruiting woes have been rightfully placed at our own feet.



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This post was edited on 3/31 8:19 PM by BillyL

 

[Bur-Heel]

still don't understand why the kids in the 15' class is still using the sanctions as an excuse..seems like 90% of the kids we targeted this cycle are oad..so by the time a penalty if any would be handed out,then they would be gone already!!..really don't think the ncaa situation would be resolved for at least another year or longer..i can understand the targets in the 16' class but don't understand why the 15' guys as being scared off!!..the chances of coming in as a oad and winning a title are very slim..if,that's the real reason that you're scared of (the chance to play for a title)..i have no inside info,but from everything i've heard and read..seems like everyone is saying it'll be a while before this gets resolved(1-1 1/2 years)..does anyone agree with this?wouldn't this affect paige and the crew also this upcoming season?..all they've been talking about is returning and playing for a title next year..they ain't scared..I'm not buying the ncaa scaring the 15' class off..like I said 16' is understandable but '15..c'mon man!!

This post was edited on 3/31 7:13 PM by Bur-Heel

 

[keysersosay#1]

Billy yeah I get that ,my point is the NCAA really has had most if not all of its work done for it

They conducted an investigation, we have had what 4 others including the $3 million Wainstein deal which we conducted and paid for. and they are doing another one now which started last fall


I have, along with others have said that they are dragging this out as ANOTHER form of punishment. with the idea that they can hurt our recruiting in the process .Roy has stated it has already cost us as many as 6 recruits...more will fall by the wayside as they dilly dally along///Ingram said as much already.


He aint coming here and it is a shame that. as you correctly stated.... IF the ostriches in OUR admin had actually DONE their jobs long ago, none of this this would ever have happened.

 

[Sk1310]

Now Ingram is saying that even though it's still out there, he trusts what coach Roy Williams is saying and the rest of the coaching staff over anyone else.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

After getting both 'Stack and Bullock missing on Ingram will be a bit sad to see. However, Roy and UNC will rebound, if true...

Duke with the best chance as seen here...

 

[UNC&ME]

surely Giles and Smith and Tatum are watching this development if Ingtam opts for dook

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Originally posted by ChapelHeeled:





After getting both 'Stack and Bullock missing on Ingram will be a bit sad to see. However, Roy and UNC will rebound, if true...

You do realize how far off they have been?

 

[BillyL]

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:

Originally posted by ChapelHeeled:





After getting both 'Stack and Bullock missing on Ingram will be a bit sad to see. However, Roy and UNC will rebound, if true...

You do realize how far off they have been?

Exactly . . . That site's prediction record is the absolute worst.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Roy has claimed, although u guys dismissed it for whatever reason, that he has missed on numerous recruits specefically because of af am. Sorry but i take roys word for it. As such, that plus this possible recruiting loss shows we pretty much are already suffering the death penalty in some ways.
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[mikeirbyusa]

Did I miss something? Did anyone say this mess has not affected recruiting? OF COURSE IT HAS!

 

[dadika13]

^ without a doubt.

That said, I still think we get Ingram, just a gut feeling.

 

[BillyL]

Originally posted by dadika13:

^ without a doubt.

That said, I still think we get Ingram, just a gut feeling.

I think the pendulum is beginning an upswing for us, we've endured the worst and IMO things are going to get better for us.