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Cadeau a OAD?

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A question for those of you in the know ... I've heard how Cadeau has made it clear that he wants to be a OAD ... and I've heard some people on this board allude to the possibility that he'll only be here for one year ... my question is "is the NBA really clamoring for a 6'2" point guard?". I mean is it likely that he's going to impact the team in such a way that NBA GM's are gonna want to draft him after one year? Are there other point guards in his eventual draft class that would get the same consideration? Just wondering what y'all think?
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I think he is Family! I know he will be a Tar Heel and contribute to the team's success while also showing his leadership and game to the pros. I know he will then get some serious feedback and assistance making his career decision! I also know that if the info gained by our staff says he will be a 1st round, especially lottery, pick our staff will encourage him to take the leap! If the info says not yet, our staff will let him know they think he needs another year! The beautiful thing is, I know he will maximize his chance of having a long, fruitful career by joining the Family!

I also don't give a crap whether someone is labeled "OAD" before setting foot on a college campus! He will be what his game says he is!
 
I'm more concerned that he ends up a 0AD and jumps straight from high school.
 
I think he is Family! I know he will be a Tar Heel and contribute to the team's success while also showing his leadership and game to the pros. I know he will then get some serious feedback and assistance making his career decision! I also know that if the info gained by our staff says he will be a 1st round, especially lottery, pick our staff will encourage him to take the leap! If the info says not yet, our staff will let him know they think he needs another year! The beautiful thing is, I know he will maximize his chance of having a long, fruitful career by joining the Family!

I also don't give a crap whether someone is labeled "OAD" before setting foot on a college campus! He will be what his game says he is!
Great post!
 
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A question for those of you in the know ... I've heard how Cadeau has made it clear that he wants to be a OAD ... and I've heard some people on this board allude to the possibility that he'll only be here for one year ... my question is "is the NBA really clamoring for a 6'2" point guard?". I mean is it likely that he's going to impact the team in such a way that NBA GM's are gonna want to draft him after one year? Are there other point guards in his eventual draft class that would get the same consideration? Just wondering what y'all think?
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He's drawing Chris Paul comparisons.

He's athletic enough to throw down windmill dunks in game, as well as catch bodies with dunks.

There is a reason he's the top PG in 2024. He's already on NBA radars.
 
The best players all think they will be 1 and done...., until they aren't. Personally, I give favor to the ones who think they are that skilled. All of these ones have to make huge adjustments once they are in a college program. The speed of the game causes the most regressions for these HS players who have come up through the AAU ranks. Also, most of these athletes are woefully short on fundamentals and strength that are requisite for making an NBA team, and many wind up either out of basketball or in the "D" League trying to make a team. The success rate in making the NBA and staying in the NBA is rather low.

Many to most are shocked to learn that there happens to be a plethora of players that are just as skilled, that are stronger, and possess very legitimate quickness that they were not expecting and that if they want to realize their aspirations in regard to the NBA they have to address these shortcomings, and most times that means staying in school until they have the requisite skills required. We have Bacot & Caleb as examples just from our team. Both declared that they would be one and done, and there are too many other examples that I can add, but I think you get the picture.

I am not saying that no HS players do not have the skills to move on after 1 year, I am just saying that more than likely that those pronouncements by high schoolers are mostly wishful thinking, and by far, most who do, do not fare well for any length of time. While we can point to some successes, the percentages of success are quite low.

The reason I favor players with the 1 and done mindset is that they have extreme confidence in their abilities on the court and confidence in themselves is not something that has to be continually pumped into them by a coaching staff, even if they find out that they do not have the requisite skills required to move on to the next level.
 
The draft lottery is always stuffed to the gills with 1 and done kids (college, G league, and foreign teens) they will dominate again this year in being the early names called. And the superstars in the league are almost always from that group.

I also think the 1 and done will be gone soon, with straight to the NBA back as an option for those 1st round type projected talents.

The G league has also been very successful in preparing the youthful skilled players for the pro game.

NIL is growing and that is huge for playing a year or two in college if talented enough for the league to draft you though.
 
The best players all think they will be 1 and done...., until they aren't. .

Bingo.

Furthermore, it’s disheartening to hear players announce their intentions of being OAD. If that’s your goal, work hard and fit in to make it happen. But saying it publicly is not only stupid, but it’s a bad look. You disenfranchise teammates, turn coaches off and often end up with egg on your face.
 
Here are the top 20 current scorers in the NBA right now. 18 went OAD or less, only 2 stayed more then a year playing college, and they both left after year 2. Nobody who stayed more then 2 years on the list.

OAD or less

Luka
Embid
Giannis
Shai Gil
Tatum
Durant
LeBron
Trae
Booker
Jalen Brown
DeRozen
Kyrie
Zion
Siakam
Jokic
Markkanen
Randle
Fox

2 years in college

Ja
Don Mitchell
 
Here are the top 20 current scorers in the NBA right now. 18 went OAD or less, only 2 stayed more then a year playing college, and they both left after year 2. Nobody who stayed more then 2 years on the list.

OAD or less

Luka
Embid
Giannis
Shai Gil
Tatum
Durant
LeBron
Trae
Booker
Jalen Brown
DeRozen
Kyrie
Zion
Siakam
Jokic
Markkanen
Randle
Fox

2 years in college

Ja
Don Mitchell
That's a good list, all true.
There is probably, I should say there IS, an equally long list of players that had the same mindset, and made that jump after 1 year that NEVER played in the NBA.
I don't plan to do the work it would take to list these name, as they are not as readily available as going down the list of NBA players. They do however exist.
My point in the IAN Jackson thread was that Hubert is more likely to pursue these upper echelon players now, because NIL exists. As Tarheel 75 so eloquently stated, a lot of these dudes THINK they are 1 and done, until they ain't. Once the NBA again allows HS kids to enter the draft, I think most college coaches will be able to decipher which kids are truelt Pro's out of HS, and they won't waste any time on them.
Roy said he knew very early that recruiting Lebron was a complete non starter. He was never going to college.
 
Bingo.

Furthermore, it’s disheartening to hear players announce their intentions of being OAD. If that’s your goal, work hard and fit in to make it happen. But saying it publicly is not only stupid, but it’s a bad look. You disenfranchise teammates, turn coaches off and often end up with egg on your face.
There isn't a single Tar Heel coach, player, or commit that has been turned off by Elliot Cadeau saying he dreams of winning a championship at UNC and being One-and-done. No one was turned off by Brandan Wright saying he planned to be one-and-done, or Kevin Durant.

In fact being up front about it allows the coaching staff to accurately plan for future recruiting classes.

Tons of kids want to be one-and-done. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The players that cause issues are generally the ones who have outside influences that create team chemistry issues. And those players don't even have to be One-and-done. Give me Elliot Cadeau or Brandan Wright being up front about their one-and-done intentions any day of the week over Sharon Drew, David Wear Sr, or Chad Kessler harassing the coaching staff and turning their kids into divas.
 
There isn't a single Tar Heel coach, player, or commit that has been turned off by Elliot Cadeau saying he dreams of winning a championship at UNC and being One-and-done. No one was turned off by Brandan Wright saying he planned to be one-and-done, or Kevin Durant.

I was turned off by it. And until you provide a note from every former Tar Heel player and coach, I'll just not believe you.

In fact being up front about it allows the coaching staff to accurately plan for future recruiting classes.

Say it in private. That conversation should remain behind closed doors. There is absolutely zero benefit to that being public knowledge.

Give me Elliot Cadeau or Brandan Wright being up front about their one-and-done intentions any day of the week over Sharon Drew, David Wear Sr, or Chad Kessler harassing the coaching staff and turning their kids into divas.

Give me quiet, thoughtful kids that commit with no fanfare and say very little about themselves and let the chips fall where they may. Give me families where I don't even know the names of the parents. It's fine to strive for the NBA. It's fine to even want that within one year. It's a poor choice to publicly make it known. As I said, it can end up very embarrassing for those declaring it and it not working out.
 
NBAdraft.net currently shows Trimble being drafted in 2024, mid first round.

RJ will be a 5th year senior if he's still here.

Dunn will be a senior if he's still here.

Either RJ or Dunn would be a fine Dexter to Cadeau's Marcus. So, yeah, hand Cadeau the keys.

And if it turns out that he isn't ready, he can work his way into it.

This kid has another year of HS ahead. He's good now. Imagine how good he'll be when the 2024-25 season starts.
 
I have always felt that a 1&D kid should play his way to that label, rather than it be granted for him before he ever steps foot on a court not full of kids still in high school. Unless a kid is the next Lew Alcindor or Ralph Sampson (big men that are just next level God given talents) I think the 1 and done label should wait until they have proven themselves in a full season of college ball.
 
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NBAdraft.net currently shows Trimble being drafted in 2024, mid first round.

RJ will be a 5th year senior if he's still here.

Dunn will be a senior if he's still here.

Either RJ or Dunn would be a fine Dexter to Cadeau's Marcus. So, yeah, hand Cadeau the keys.

And if it turns out that he isn't ready, he can work his way into it.

This kid has another year of HS ahead. He's good now. Imagine how good he'll be when the 2024-25 season starts.
If Trimble does so well to be mid first round, that will be a good thing.

Really hope RJ stays. We can play with both Cadeau and RJ on the floor together.
 
I'm declaring myself a one and done. That is to say, if I tried playing with the Tar Heels after one minute at my age I would be DONE!
 
A question for those of you in the know ... I've heard how Cadeau has made it clear that he wants to be a OAD ... and I've heard some people on this board allude to the possibility that he'll only be here for one year ... my question is "is the NBA really clamoring for a 6'2" point guard?". I mean is it likely that he's going to impact the team in such a way that NBA GM's are gonna want to draft him after one year? Are there other point guards in his eventual draft class that would get the same consideration? Just wondering what y'all think?
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Who cares ?? A Cadeau OAD is a helluva lot better than a Cadeau NAD (none & done) .. UNC has a need for a true pg bigly !! It's the elephant in the room as I type regardless of the Bilas 94 ft w/RJ where he says he's a pg .. he aint.
 
Who cares ?? A Cadeau OAD is a helluva lot better than a Cadeau NAD (none & done) .. UNC has a need for a true pg bigly !! It's the elephant in the room as I type regardless of the Bilas 94 ft w/RJ where he says he's a pg .. he aint.
100%
It says something that Hubert & Co went so hard for both Cadeau and Fland. They must have seen the folly of continuously recruiting combos and trying to turn them into lead guards…. Sadly something Roy did too much of in recent years.
 
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