Cap’n Jack
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Literally the only reason I stopped worrying about him decommitting was the quote from one of his coaches about how he'd always be loyal to Cardinal Hayes and UNC.
We need to start recruiting Boogie Fland again.
We need to start recruiting Boogie Fland again.
This is a glass half full/half empty situation for sure.
Is he rethinking his future with this move (everyone panic)
Is he thinking about his future with this move (UNC prep is most important thing to him)
And our high school recruiting momentum seemed to stop back in January.
Did Ian ever visit UNC this summer like he planned.
Seems the ship has sailed for Fland. Not sure what happened I’m sure someone will know.
Well it stopped because we got the commit from Cadeau, this was before Cadeau reclassed and it was not a given at that time that Cadeau would reclass. That allowed others to get more involved as we quietly backed away. A factor now is Hubert really wants Peterson and the likelihood of a Peterson reclass is pretty strong. Both want to be PGs in college because they see that position as what their NBA positions would be.
I would love to have either, but it seems like Peterson is a better fit for what Hubs wants to do. If it comes down to a choice between the two, I would go with him. Fland is more of a scoring guard while Peterson appears to be equally adept at getting the ball to others! I used to hate reclassing, but it seems like it is another thing we might as well get used to. At least, I can count on the Tar Heels to consider the good of the student as well as the team!
Why not both? If we lose RJ and Cadeau after this year, wouldn't both be ideal?
Giving us this backcourt (who am I forgetting?)
Seth
Ian
Fland
Peterson
Of course both RJ and Cadeau are eligible to return, but what if they don't?
Both would be ideal, but it appears we are on the outside of the Fland sweepstakes! I would bet that RJ returns and Cadeau could as well. If either decides to leave it means they have just finished a pretty spectacular season so I'm good with that!
Wilcher decommitting screws up the calculus as it was that was in place when this was going down, in the time just as Cadeau committed but before he elected to reclass. Simply put, it is not often a team can take their foot off the gas in a recruitment of a kid this highly rated and be able to pick it back up later on, others just have blown past you at that point.
I do not expect to see either Cadeau or RJ play for us after this coming season, leaves Seth as really our only back court guy returning from next season. We will have Jack and Drake coming in with Brown and a wing spot (3) a bit crowded with Ingram, Drake, and Jack and yes Jack can fill in at the 2, maybe I am one of a very few that feel Jack is more a 3 but the cards for now seem to deal him more in to the 2 than the 3 if for no other reason than smaller back court numbers.
Personally I don't think Boogie was the answer anyway unless he wanted to play the 2, most may disagree, I just have had enough of combo's that go hunting their scoring trying to learn to be a UNC PG. I admit, it is vital that you consider what I value in a PG before you can get your mind wrapped around my position on this. I have laid out what I look for in a PG so I am not going to repeat that here but I do think that one position may be the most critical position for UNC to fill, maybe the most critical for any team to fill. Get it wrong and you lose consistency, you never know what to expect no matter who you play. That consistency is the key for winning programs and the lack of that gives you seasons like last season. The young Felton kid is one we should be keeping a keen eye on.
I do expect us to hit the portal for a PG and maybe a 2, may need to portal a 5 as well depending on what High, Jalen, and Konkwo give us this coming season.
Why would RJ leave?
He isn't getting drafted by the NBA due to his height. He definitely isn't getting drafted in the first round to get a guaranteed contract. The best financial decision he could make is to return to UNC for a 5th year and make a lot of NIL money off loyal Tar Heel fans who love him.
Plus his girlfriend is also a current senior eligible to return for a covid 5th year in '24-'25. If she turned pro and got drafted in the top 10 of the WNBA draft, she would only get paid a little over $70k bc WNBA salaries are terrible. She'd easily make more than that as the star of the UNC women's team off of NIL. My guess is both she and RJ will follow Bacot's lead and make as much NIL as possible before becoming professionals.
And when we consider that Hubert Davis just abruptly stopped recruiting Boogie Fland months ago, there has to be a reason why. The most logical one being that Hubert believes/knows that at least one of RJ or Cadeau will be returning.
You make good points.
I don't actually expect him to leave. He'll have done the normal 4 years, and should have good overseas offers. He might just feel like it's time for a change. But the wife and NIL considerations could count for more.
It would be interesting to see what percentage of 5th-year eligible players exercise the option to stay in college.
It would also be interesting to know what percentage of those who stick around stay with the same school vs trying a change of scenery. I can imagine kids with their eye on a future coaching job might want to get a year in with a different coach.
Are kids with overseas options more likely to leave?
I should probably stop calling them "kids."
All I can tell you is that it isn't exactly a well kept secret that RJ has expressed this is his last season of college ball. Could that change, of course it can, people do at times change their minds. I as well agree, not likely RJ spends much time on a NBA roster, his money will come from across the pond. With a very successful season his NIL may look much better if he did come back, maybe that does it for him. I don't know, I am just speaking to how things look today. I do know RJ loves UNC, loves the school as much as the program, I would not see him transferring to some other college program. Things are just going to have to play out for us to really know what will happen.
"Are kids with overseas options more likely to leave?" Good question, would answer it this way, if it were you and you knew the NBA is a dream that is not likely to be realized but Europe is willing to open the check book for you maybe Europe becomes your new dream that you are ready to kick start? Keep in mind, RJ is no longer that 18yr old kid whose dreams may be over sized for his ability to achieve, he is older now, married, decisions will tend to take on a more business like nature.
Wilcher or somebody else? Haven't been following recruiting that much recently.
And we have the most recent example of why I really do not like the new landscape of college basketball. So many kids today are more interested in developing their brand than wanting to play college basketball. I HOPE the NBA will change their rules soon to allow players to be drafted out of high school. I would rather watch the less talented players who play with that "want to" than the sure-fire nba prospects going through the motions.
The kids was asked twice last week about this and twice he said he is UNC bound.
Seems to me this is being driven by Pitino and St John’s: keep the ‘rumours’ circulating, make sure he’s always asked the question and maintain the doubt whilst back-channeling the cash.
I also love the line in the tweet: “arguably the greatest coach ever” yeah, right.
Seems to me this is being driven by Pitino and St John’s: keep the ‘rumours’ circulating, make sure he’s always asked the question and maintain the doubt whilst back-channeling the cash.
I also love the line in the tweet: “arguably the greatest coach ever” yeah, right.
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