Clemson

[WhatTheHeel?]

Assuming that it doesn't propel UNC into the playoffs, if/when UNC beats Clemson in the ACC Championship game, would you like to see Clemson remain in the top four and be in the playoffs? I would like to have ACC representation more than I dislike Clemson and I guess not dropping them much after a loss to UNC is a compliment to our team.

 

[BeezerHeel]

If UNC can't move up? Absolutely I'd prefer to see Clemson in over any other school eligible.

 

[blazers]

yes. I don't mind Clemson being really good. The ACC needs rockstars, as long as these aren't ncsu, dook, or virginia tech, paul johnson, then i'm happy for them.

 

[HeelFan58]

Clemson is an ACC team that I typically pull for as long as they aren't playing UNC. If we beat Clemson and neither of us go to the playoffs then it will take a bit from the win.

 

[randman1]

I want all the ACC teams to win except when they are playing us and except when their loss would help us. That even includes do ok, State, all of them. We need the ACC to start getting more respect.

 

[HeelFan58]

I want all the ACC teams to win except when they are playing us and except when their loss would help us. That even includes do ok, State, all of them. We need the ACC to start getting more respect.

sorry no dook , no state and most times no wake. Their venom is intolerable.

 

[TVJ]

I definitely want the ACC to be strong and gain more national respect, and I do pull for ACC teams in out-of-conference games. As much as I want the Heels to win this weekend, I fear that if/when we do, it will drop Clemson out of the top 4 and the ACC will not have a team in the playoffs.

 

[heelmanwilm]

If we lose i will be pulling hard for clemson in playoff. There is absolutely NO OTHER SCHOOL in acc i would say that about and there was a time i woulda never said that about clemson. But i respect dabo and hes changed the culture down there. Plus the fan base seems to finally be over blaming us for their sanctions

 

[Littlejon]

Yep, if we lose then I will pull hard for them to win it all. Never understood some of the vitriol towards Clemson by some UNC folks. I know there were some harsh words during the Danny Ford days, but aside from that and the basketball "streak", the two schools really don't have much to hate each other over. Besides, I have friends with kids at Clemson (2 there now and one on the way in 2 years) who make every home game and LOVE the atmosphere on game day. They invite folks to join them all the time (yes, I have been invited, but my schedule hasn't allowed me to go - YET) and all who go come back with the same feelings. The place and the people are great no matter who you pull for. Well, unless you are a little carolina fan, that is.

Anyway, I want us to win more than anything if for no other reason than to have us mentioned as contenders for a national championship. If we happen to lose, then I will definitely pull for Clemson to win it all.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Yea the vitriol dates back to danny ford and the acc slapping a two year post season ban on them when the ncaa had only penalized them one year iirc

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

If we win it's quite likely that it will result in the ACC getting left out of the playoff. That sucks but I'm willing to accept it for a conference championship.

If we lose I'll certainly be rooting for Clemson to win it all (and first and foremost for us to finish strong by winning a high-profile bowl game).

 

[CousinClem]

Yea the vitriol dates back to danny ford and the acc slapping a two year post season ban on them when the ncaa had only penalized them one year iirc

The NCAA gave two years and the ACC added a third. They also said not only could we not win the conference, but losses to Clemson didn't count.

 

[heelmanwilm]

The NCAA gave two years and the ACC added a third. They also said not only could we not win the conference, but losses to Clemson didn't count.

Tks. cant recall a conf ever doing something similar

 

[BeezerHeel]

Well, GT and UVa spear headed it. UNC got blamed for it.

 

[HeelFan58]

I saw on 247 that a "model" ran 200 sequences on the conference championship games and it predicted Clemson to beat us by 18.5 points even though the spread was 5. No other game was so far off from the spread. It gave Clemson a 91% chance to make it to the "4". I mean damn even the fuking computers don't respect us. I guess I'll just take our chances on the actual field.

 

[UNCbeliever]

Definitely would like to see them in but it wouldn't happen...no way two ACC teams get in - who would be pushed out in that scenario regardless of other conference outcomes?

 

[HeelFan58]

It also said even if UNC wins it's like a 9% chance they go to the playoffs.

 

[BeezerHeel]

Definitely would like to see them in but it wouldn't happen...no way two ACC teams get in - who would be pushed out in that scenario regardless of other conference outcomes?

I can answer it, but it won't happen. Carolina wins. Alabama loses. Stanford loses. Ohio state gets left out. Loser of B1G is left out.

 

[UNCbeliever]

I can answer it, but it won't happen. Carolina wins. Alabama loses. Stanford loses. Ohio state gets left out. Loser of B1G is left out.

Too add, the other championship games need to be horribly played by all teams involved, and UNC vs Clemson has to be the game of the year.

 

[81graduate]

Assuming that it doesn't propel UNC into the playoffs, if/when UNC beats Clemson in the ACC Championship game, would you like to see Clemson remain in the top four and be in the playoffs? I would like to have ACC representation more than I dislike Clemson and I guess not dropping them much after a loss to UNC is a compliment to our team.

Maybe you beat us and we both make the playoffs. But, I prefer we win. Who knows?

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Maybe you beat us and we both make the playoffs. But, I prefer we win. Who knows?

I think if Clemson loses to UNC they have every bit the same resume as OSU - and a better one than 2 loss Stanford, so having both teams make it would be what should happen, but it wouldnt.

Notice how the committee is being very vague on what they're valuing right now. That way if UNC loses, they can keep touting conference championships matter... but if UNC wins they can not actually put value on conference championships

 

[TarHeelMark]

It also said even if UNC wins it's like a 9% chance they go to the playoffs.

Sounds about right to me. Honestly I feel like the Heels have about a 1 in 5 shot of beating Clemson, and if they do, Probably a 50% chance of getting in the CFP; so about 10% chance at the playoffs.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Sounds about right to me. Honestly I feel like the Heels have about a 1 in 5 shot of beating Clemson, and if they do, Probably a 50% chance of getting in the CFP; so about 10% chance at the playoffs.

You should bet on Clemson then (in all seriousness). They're -200, which implies if you think they have an over 66% chance of winning you should take them (and you think they have an 80% chance).

 

[TarHeelMark]

^I want the Heels to win more than anything. But I'm not gonna stress over this game like I have the last 4, because they are the underdog and it's all gravy from here. Win and we've done something we haven't down in 35 years! And then there's the possibility of the final 4 in FOOTBALL!

I would never bet money on Clemson, but I'm just being realistic in my expectations for the game.

 

[randman1]

I think we beat them by 3 touchdowns, maybe a little more.

 

[BeezerHeel]

I think if Clemson loses to UNC they have every bit the same resume as OSU - and a better one than 2 loss Stanford, so having both teams make it would be what should happen, but it wouldnt.

Notice how the committee is being very vague on what they're valuing right now. That way if UNC loses, they can keep touting conference championships matter... but if UNC wins they can not actually put value on conference championships

Hark,

If we beat Clemson, Clemson WILL NOT have the same resume as ohio state. Clemson will still have two wins against the top ten where ohio state will have ZERO.

 

[BeezerHeel]

Sounds about right to me. Honestly I feel like the Heels have about a 1 in 5 shot of beating Clemson, and if they do, Probably a 50% chance of getting in the CFP; so about 10% chance at the playoffs.

^I want the Heels to win more than anything. But I'm not gonna stress over this game like I have the last 4, because they are the underdog and it's all gravy from here. Win and we've done something we haven't down in 35 years! And then there's the possibility of the final 4 in FOOTBALL!

I would never bet money on Clemson, but I'm just being realistic in my expectations for the game.

Honestly, though, it's not "all gravy" bc we are all gonna be (collectively) pissed off if we lose tomorrow night and go to the f'ing Russell Athletic Bowl. It won't be on par with the season we've had AND knowing we finished 2nd in the conference and get snubbed for a NY6 game, again, is gonna piss us off.

 

[Archer2]

Yep, if we lose then I will pull hard for them to win it all. Never understood some of the vitriol towards Clemson by some UNC folks. I know there were some harsh words during the Danny Ford days, but aside from that and the basketball "streak", the two schools really don't have much to hate each other over. Besides, I have friends with kids at Clemson (2 there now and one on the way in 2 years) who make every home game and LOVE the atmosphere on game day. They invite folks to join them all the time (yes, I have been invited, but my schedule hasn't allowed me to go - YET) and all who go come back with the same feelings. The place and the people are great no matter who you pull for. Well, unless you are a little carolina fan, that is.

Anyway, I want us to win more than anything if for no other reason than to have us mentioned as contenders for a national championship. If we happen to lose, then I will definitely pull for Clemson to win it all.

Pretty well sums up my feelings. I want to win but I fear if we do beat Clemson there won't be an ACC team in the playoffs. As much as I would hate that, I still want to beat them. NTL, if they win I will pull hard for them. I have several friends who are Clemson fans and all are great people.