College Football Playoffs
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I'm thinking they go with OSU, which flies in the face of the value of head-to-head matchups and conference championships. If they do put PSU in, I think they keep OSU and kick Washington out. Like you said... it's a mess.
This year may accelerate the push to 6 or 8 teams (even though I think it's locked at 4 for at least a couple more seasons).
This year may accelerate the push to 6 or 8 teams (even though I think it's locked at 4 for at least a couple more seasons).
Interesting that if both Clemson and Penn St are in the playoff, Pitt has a win over both.
Alabama
Clemson
Penn State
Ohio State
In that order.
And it definitely shouldn't go to 6 or 8 teams. Five at the most.
Clemson
Penn State
Ohio State
In that order.
And it definitely shouldn't go to 6 or 8 teams. Five at the most.
It's obvious the CFP is a money grab. They'll make that official by keeping OSU in over their conference champion, and reason they have 1 loss, PSU - or over Washington. They don't need to go to 8 teams, just pick the worst P5 champion to keep out of the final 4 (which this year would be the Big 12), and put the other 4 in. Sorry Bama, OSU, etc - if you can't win your conference you're not in (yes I realize Bama won their conference this year, just trying to get ahead of the inevitable "ya they have two losses but they're Bama" in some future year).
It cracks me up that analysts are so quick to point out "Well Clemson is barely beating teams" as a knock on Clemson, yet they don't mention Ohio State surviving by one point against an awful Michigan State team and three points against Northwestern.
The B1G is overhyped this year and the committee has created a situation where the B1G (can't think of the phrase I'm searching for here) is bound to have a team in because they keep ranking all their teams so high, and then say their wins against each other are spectacular.
Smebody(s) is gonna be pissed when hose 4 teams are announced . . I think Michigan is one of the 4 best teams in the land, and I'd like to see them again, but, I don't think that happens.
I'd also like to see an 8 team playoff.
Bama
Clemson
Washington
Ohio State...and they blow themselves up as far as being seen as having "criteria" for inclusion. They say they only come together to watch the championship games and they give added credence to those games. So WTH did OSU play yesterday that gives them such weight?
Pfffffffffft.
8 teams or forget it.
Clemson
Washington
Ohio State...and they blow themselves up as far as being seen as having "criteria" for inclusion. They say they only come together to watch the championship games and they give added credence to those games. So WTH did OSU play yesterday that gives them such weight?
Pfffffffffft.
8 teams or forget it.
Ya, the B1G is definitely getting the treatment usually reserved for the SEC. Bama just happens to have steamrolled that conference so badly that they can't put anyone else in at this point.
Self-fulfilling prophecy was the term I was searching for. That's what they've made the B1G this year.
Conference championships should matter and be the deciding factor. That is why we play the games. That being said, I bet the playoff expands to eight teams in the coming years...
I maintain my position that an 8-team playoff will kill college football's regular season. See: the NFL. More is not always better.
We sort of already have a nine team playoff if the Conference Championships are taken into account and Big 12 champion (I think the Big 12 is planning to have a Conference Championship game, perhaps next year?). That is why the regular season counts so much and the Conference Championship game should be THE over-riding factor in selecting a FOUR team playoff lineup. Since the Big 12 didn't have a conference championship this year, they don't get in. Period. This year, the line-up should be Alabama, Clemson, Washington, and Penn State. OSU, Michigan, and Oklahoma (more by omission than commission...) should not be rewarded for failing to win their Conference Championship. My hope is that the playoff is expanded to eight teams, which would allow for three at-large teams to be selected for the playoffs. If that was the case this year then maybe Michigan, OSU get in or even some of the other conference champs get to dance, like Western Michigan. Roll the bones!
That's a valid point but I suspect the money will always override rational thought. I'm sure it will get expanded to at least 6 when it's time to renew the deal.
First of all, can you imagine the controversy and "chaos" if it were still the BCS?!
I don't think an eight team playoff would kill the regular season, you still have to win games. Maybe have a cap at 3-4 loses, even if you are a conference champ. That way a 8-4 team wouldn't get in if they beat an 11-1 or 12-0 team in a title game, or not! Probably wouldn't happen.
IMO there should not be two teams from one conf. UNLESS one is undefeated and the other has one loss, to the the undefeated champion of that conf..
Example 12-0 FSU plays 12-0 UNC in the ACCTG, both could and probably should go the the playoffs, unless the game is a complete rout.
I have Alabama, Clemson, Washington (they were number 4 and beat #8 Col. by 31) and a coil flip between Penn State and Ohio State.
I don't think an eight team playoff would kill the regular season, you still have to win games. Maybe have a cap at 3-4 loses, even if you are a conference champ. That way a 8-4 team wouldn't get in if they beat an 11-1 or 12-0 team in a title game, or not! Probably wouldn't happen.
IMO there should not be two teams from one conf. UNLESS one is undefeated and the other has one loss, to the the undefeated champion of that conf..
Example 12-0 FSU plays 12-0 UNC in the ACCTG, both could and probably should go the the playoffs, unless the game is a complete rout.
I have Alabama, Clemson, Washington (they were number 4 and beat #8 Col. by 31) and a coil flip between Penn State and Ohio State.
The problem with automatically giving conference champions bids is how unbalanced divisions are and how conference teams don't play all the other teams in the conference (except the Big 12). So you get a situation where one division in a conference is great and the other division is very mediocre. The representative from the mediocre division could win the conference and get in. That would suck.
Maybe have a provision that a team has to ranked in the top 10 to make the playoffs, even if they do win their conf.
Bad analogy. There are only 32 NFL teams, and even with 12 teams making the postseason, the season is still very competitive and always comes down to the last weekend to determine the final qualifiers.
In the NCAA we would be talking about eight playoff berths for 128 teams to compete for. Granted, only a fraction of those teams consistently make a run for a top-ten ranking, but you get the idea.
An eight-team football playoff is certainly no more oversaturated than a 68-team basketball playoff.
Winning regular season games should count, winning the division should count, winning the conference championships should count. If a 12-0 team loses to a 9-3 team in the conference championship, that counts as a Conference championship win and the 10-3 conference champ goes to the playoff. If not, then why play the games at all from August to December, why have a Conference Championship game at all?
