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December 7th .... 1941

7 Dec 1941.......Why do we have to study history grandpa, it's soo boring, what's the big deal..................96 ships were in the Navy yard at Pearl Harbor on 7 Dec 1941. Of these, the Japs sank or damaged only 18, and 11 were back in service within a year.

The attacking fleet, led by Vice admiral Chuici Nagumo, had 6 aircraft carriers and 2 battleships, plus cruisers, destroyers and support ships. It arrived 275 miles northwest of Oahu, and at 6 a.m. launched the first wave of 183 aircraft ; this was followed by a second wave of 168 planes. The first wave arrived over Pearl Harbor at 7:55 a.m. and the attack continued until 9:45 a.m.

The pilots were assigned to attack the battleships and aircraft carriers first. Cruisers and destroyers were the next priority. The dive bombers were set to attack ground targets. Fighters were to strafe as many parked aircraft as possible to insure they did not get into the air to interfere.

Staff officers urged Nagumo to launch a third wave to strike the Navy yard, oil tank farms and submarine base at Pearl Harbor. Military historians say the destruction of these properties would have damaged the capabilities of the U.S. Pacific Fleet a great deal more than losing its battleships. Nimitz estimated if these properties were destroyed, it would have prolonged the war 2 years.

Nagumo decided to withdraw, believing his force was within range of U.S. land based bombers; Also, a third wave would require significant preparation and turn around time, and would have meant returning planes landing afyer sunset. This was a considerable risk because they had not developed night carrier landing techniques. Weather had deteriorated since the second wave, and rough seas would complicate take off and landing for the third attack.

The attack, which was a great tactical success, failed in the larger goal of destroying the U.s. Navy in the Pacific. Although the battleships were damaged, the failure to destroy the repair yards enabled the Americans to eventually return six of the eight battleships and all but one of the other vessels to active duty. The fuel reserves enabled the remainder of the fleet to operate, and failure to destroy the submarine base allowed submarines to play a major role in the Pacific war.

Along Battleship Row, Arizona, California, and West Virginia were sunk ; Nevada was grounded and Oklahoma later capsized ; and three other battleships were damaged. At airfields, 164 U.S. planes were destroyed and 128 damaged. U.S. military fatalities were 2,335, along with 68 civilians, and 1,178 wounded.
Arizona, which became a memorial of attack, contains the remains of more than 900 men. Utah is the tomb of another 60.

1.8 million people visit the Arizona every year.
 
Stupidity.
The Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.

This is why you don't throw around threats to other countries without first thinking it out long and hard. You may look at it as just a business deal but a business deal can turn to war in a heartbeat.
 
The Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.
Yeah, I know about the trade issues. I was just trying to make a joke that you would have to be stupid to think that motivating the US to get involved military would be a good idea.
 
The Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.

This is why you don't throw around threats to other countries without first thinking it out long and hard. You may look at it as just a business deal but a business deal can turn to war in a heartbeat.

Roosevelt's response to Japan's overtures was totally appropriate. Japan was murdering people by the tens of thousands in China and throughout the Pacific.
 
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Roosevelt's response to Japan's overtures was the right thing to do. Japan was murdering people by the tens of thousands in China and throughout the Pacific.
Correct. The point I was trying to make is we need to think before we speak.
 
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