As Kentucky fans our big cross state rival is Louisville. Where as we have more wins, more Final Fours, better overall facilities, a larger fan base, etc. We consider UL to be our little brother. You, UNC have more wins than Duke, more Final Four's, better facilities, a larger fan base, etc. So do you the UNC fans consider Duke to be your little brother?
Do you consider Duke to be your little brother?
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I don't know any Duke fans who went to Duke, so I don't really consider them anything except annoying. I do consider NC State our little (angry/pathetic) brothers.
...or hillbilly cousins.
dook, on the other hand, is like a pretentious douchebag who moved in from up north and tries to run the neighborhood association.
This.
Here in NC, the Duke fans are former NC State fans who jumped ship starting around 1990. It's not that they love Duke (like UL fans love UL), these people pull for Duke because they hate Carolina.
As far as considering Duke a little brother, not really at this point. But they are going to have to sustain after K leaves or else they will drop right off the map- kinda like IU after Knight.
I'm a Duke alum but spent enough time in Chapel Hill to get to know a bunch of UNC folks. Honestly, other than basketball, the folks I got to know were pretty similar to my Duke friends.
My wife is from KY so there are UK fans in the family now. They can be a bit obnoxious when it comes to basketball so we don't go there.
They are the annoying neighbor who moved down here from up north , talks through his nose , wears long black socks with his sandals and is always saying "that's the way we do it up north" and gives his opinion without being asked..
It's just different. When Carolina loses to State, you're going to hear the sh*t-talking from people you can't avoid -- your cousin, your uncle, your brother-in law, etc. You'll hear about it at the Thanksgiving dinner table and at the post-Easter service brunch. When Carolina loses to Duke, you only hear it from......ESPN, Twitter, and a bunch of bandwagon Duke fans who only like basketball and probably have never stepped foot on Duke's campus.
No one in my family is going on about State, I can assure you of that. You need better relatives.
Well consider yourself lucky, lol. I'm fortunate, at least, that my relatives are benevolent State fans. But even their (mostly) friendly gloating and goading still makes me want to throw stuff against the wall and turn Thanksgiving into an episode of Cops
ETA: But you get my overall point of what I'm trying to say. There's a reason Duke is called University of New Jersey - Durham Campus.
Well consider yourself lucky, lol. I'm fortunate, at least, that my relatives are benevolent State fans. But even their (mostly) friendly gloating and goading still makes me want to throw stuff against the wall and turn Thanksgiving into an episode of Cops
ETA: But you get my overall point of what I'm trying to say. There's a reason Duke is called University of New Jersey - Durham Campus.
I absolutely get your point.
But back to OPs point, Carolina-Moo would be a comparable rivalry to UK-UL if Moo could actually win anything other than against us once every 5-7 years.
Has any P5 school gone so long without at least a conference championship in ANY team sport?
Exactly. Moo started sucking at the EXACT time that ESPN really started pouring resources into covering and promoting college basketball (nationally, not just the Big East). This is very late 80's and early 90's. They needed a rivalry to promote and they chose longstanding blueblood North Carolina and (at that time) upstart Duke who was now challenging for -- and winning -- national titles. It certainly didn't hurt that Duke's alumni base skewed heavily to the Northeast where ESPN was located, nor did it hurt that UNC hoops was already a national brand and that UNC did have a chunk of alumni that lived in the Northeast as well.....though not nearly as much as Duke, obviously. Basically, a perfect storm of events mixed with State's suckitude, led to the rise of the ESPN-hyped Carolina-Duke hoops rivalry.
I think State has gotten a conference championship in a couple non-revenue sports.....like softball a year or two ago (?). But I do think they have one of the longest running P5 streaks of not winning a revenue sport conference championship
@UNC71-00 ^^ Just did a quick Wiki search...........
Since the 1992-1993 academic year, NC State is the ONLY Power 5 school not to win a conference championship in any the Big Four (football, baseball, men's and women's basketball).
Since the 1992-1993 academic year, NC State is the ONLY Power 5 school not to win a conference championship in any the Big Four (football, baseball, men's and women's basketball).
Lol.....here's a UNC alum (or so he claims) that makes the case that Duke is UNC's only TRUE rival: LINK HERE
You'll have to forgive me, Brandon, but I think your article is dumb as a bag of hammers. Plus, you're not in touch with the entire UNC fanbase if you think it "just doesn't care" about losing to State. Plus, you say you're a "Tarheel [sic] fanatic" in your bio, so you'll excuse me for thinking you don't know much of nothin'. . .
You'll have to forgive me, Brandon, but I think your article is dumb as a bag of hammers. Plus, you're not in touch with the entire UNC fanbase if you think it "just doesn't care" about losing to State. Plus, you say you're a "Tarheel [sic] fanatic" in your bio, so you'll excuse me for thinking you don't know much of nothin'. . .
You can always count on this board to give ya a good laugh. lol
I bet you slapped the floor before and after this post.
I know several "dook fans" and only one of them can name 3 of the 5 starters on their basketball team. And I bet he couldn't name their starting QB. Most are fair weather fans at best.
And then ran around your living room looking for a creepy, almost 70yr old man to hug.
Worked at Duke for 5 years in the Medical Center, then went to graduate school -- Fuqua. Very happy Duke grad and fan. Now you know of at least one Duke fan that is an alum...
Nice, there's 1. I know another one as well, played QB there way back in the day. He's from.....wait for it....New Jersey.
One of my best friends was the center for Spurrier at Duke. He is most definitely a North Carolina native and cheers passionately for Duke- he also goes to every home football game.
I have 2 good friends from high school in Virginia who went to Duke. They have very important jobs now and as such, don't pay much attention to college sports. These 2 also confirmed that Duke is completely full of trust fund Yankees or nerds, with very few exceptions.
So UNC71-00 -- you kind of got me curious about UNC's geographic distribution. So I had to poke around....http://oira.unc.edu/facts-and-figur...udent-headcount-by-state-of-origin-fall-2014/...it seems like there are about 197 kids from New Jersey that go to UNC! Wow, who would have thought, huh? And before anyone pops a vein on the board, here are the stats for Duke....http://admissions.duke.edu/images/uploads/process/DukeClass2017Profile.pdf... We come in at 368.
So which state provides most of the out-of-state students for UNC? It's Florida. Which is the second state.......wait for it.....New York! I think that's farther North then New Jersey.
Me, I am from Texas. I still miss North Carolina deeply. Lots of _really_ nice memories along with a lot of UNC friends
LT. Yes you pointed out the specific number of Jersey students, but didn't note the % of the student body that makes up each. Duke has almost double the amount with a much much smaller student base. Granted - yes it's still not an overwhelming percentage, but that's because it's a sort-of-joke sort-of-truth.
And also - you went to grad school there. I guess we're still yet to find any Duke fans that actually went to undergrad there.
And also - you went to grad school there. I guess we're still yet to find any Duke fans that actually went to undergrad there.
So UNC71-00 -- you kind of got me curious about UNC's geographic distribution. So I had to poke around....http://oira.unc.edu/facts-and-figur...udent-headcount-by-state-of-origin-fall-2014/...it seems like there are about 197 kids from New Jersey that go to UNC! Wow, who would have thought, huh? And before anyone pops a vein on the board, here are the stats for Duke....http://admissions.duke.edu/images/uploads/process/DukeClass2017Profile.pdf... We come in at 368.
So which state provides most of the out-of-state students for UNC? It's Florida. Which is the second state.......wait for it.....New York! I think that's farther North then New Jersey.
Me, I am from Texas. I still miss North Carolina deeply. Lots of _really_ nice memories along with a lot of UNC friends
So, per capita, what % of Duke students come from the NE and what % of Carolina students come from the NE? We are talking per capita here, not total students. Because as you seem to not understand, UNCs freshman class is comparable in size to the total number of Duke UGs.
Don't stop with NY or NJ. Look at Conn, RI, Mass, etc. I honestly can't even believe that there is a discussion about this.
Alumni is anyone that graduated from the institution...undergraduate or graduate. And I am with you on the sort-of-joke sort-of-truth aspect. Duke's a much smaller school with a pool of students with a larger geographically spread.
Ahh, looking to get banned, I see.
Here's your homework assignment- what % of the athletes enrolled in AFAM were African-American? By the same token, what % of athletes at Duke take classes at NC Central vs overall Duke student body?
Not gonna get drawn into an AFAM discussion but JFTR, I never said there weren't too many Yankees that go to UNC. There are. It just pales into comparison to Duke. You'd have to HUNT to find a southern accent on duke's campus. Not so at Carolina.
Well if dook had an AFAM type of major it would never be known. They are not subject to the Freedom of Info. They just say "nothing to see here move along , move along". It is also hard to believe that 8 of the 10 top basketball prospects in the nation are so academically gifted that they qualify at dook without exception. If every player on the dook team was an academic exception it would never be known. It's a license to steal.
UNC is Michael Jordan, and Duke is Kobe Bryant. If you ever saw MJ you understand he is the greatest and there is no room for debate. When you saw Kobe in his prime you understand you are watching an all time great and sometimes it makes you feel like maybe he is better, but then you watch a MJ clip and understand why Kobe aint MJ.
Just the way I think about UNC in relation to Duke.
Just the way I think about UNC in relation to Duke.
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