Felon's allowed to vote in Virginia
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I wonder how important voting in these meaningless beauty pageants really is to felons? I always figure these people are much more preoccupied with their own gimmicks and power plays to be too concerned about which sell-out winds up in an elected office.
And, if they have 'paid their debt to society', then they've earned the right to, once again, participate in these meaningless beauty pageants.
And, if they have 'paid their debt to society', then they've earned the right to, once again, participate in these meaningless beauty pageants.
It should be a process that a felon has to go through to get their rights back. They should have to jump through hoops and it shouldn't be easy. That way we know they are seriously interested in getting those rights back. But as is typical with liberals, they want to spoon feed everything to everyone and make it so they have to show zero initiative to do anything. Plus, liberals know where their bread is buttered.
But I agree with your first point - 99% of felons that get their rights back have little to no interest in actually using the rights they've been gifted.
I'd be okay with having a process to get them back I guess, but I'm vehemently opposed to lifetime removal of voting rights for felons (after their prison sentence is served). The purpose of prison time is to pay your penance for your crime against an individual and/or society. Once your prison stint ends, that's supposed to symbolize the completion of your debt owed to society and you're supposed to now be back in good standing. I view felon voting bans as immoral and unconstitutional. Why have a prison system if you're going to deny people their rights after the actual jail time is over? Might as well just execute people for every crime, regardless of how severe.
No one is suggesting that felons, once their debt is paid, should not get their rights back. But it shouldn't just happen without the felon having to do anything. It should be a laboring process that requires some effort.
I think what other people are saying is that they have already done what is required/
They've served time. But they haven't formally started a process to work through to gain their rights back. That's what I'm saying should happen. That's the way it has been in VA for years and that's the way at least 15 or so states have it. But it should not be as easy as you wake up one day and have your rights back. I am saying that it would be nice to make the person put some effort into getting their rights back. By doing so, you are ensuring that person will value those rights and use them properly.
The state's constitutionally-mandated process in VA is that convicted felons must complete their sentences, including any fines and parole. Then, the convicted felon can apply for voting rights that must be approved by the Governor on a case-by-case basis. This process was bypassed by the governor. He will not do an individual review of each convicted felon's application - he has approved their applications in advance as long as they have met the requirements. Nothing short of effectively stuffing the ballot box for Shillary, assuming she isn't indicted herself!
So you are assuming that all felons are going to vote Democrat, which is obviously pretty ridiculous. Of all the felons I know I would say more of them lean right than left. I'm sure other people have different experiences but I also bet that most people who think the way you do aren't exactly friends with the people who are talking about here.
I think the rationale is that the left is in most situations more lenient to criminals than the right. However, I guess that doesn't necessarily ensure that said criminals will then vote for the left.
Oops, thought this was the Felton thread.
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