Giles injury....
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Yeah tough blow for a young kid. Apparently this is not the knee that he badly tore (ACL/MCL in left knee) in 2013 and he's expected to make a full recovery. At 18 years old, he should be back 100% by mid next season at the latest.
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Unfortunately the news leaking out regarding Harry Giles, Scout's No. 1 recruit, partially tearing his other ACL is true, per sources.
Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:17 AM
Unfortunately the news leaking out regarding Harry Giles, Scout's No. 1 recruit, partially tearing his other ACL is true, per sources.
Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:17 AM
That potentially somewhat good news in that if it is partial he could be ready for his freshman season.
Tough bounce for the kid. Interesting to see if anything changes with his recruitment. There's always worry if a kid is struggling to stay healthy before college. Will also be interesting to see how he responds mentally to his injury.
I think we all meant performance wise. If he was a lock for us though the woofies would have a parade.
Wow.
Things like that make me wonder if players come back to fast and then compensating for it causes other damage. I am definitely not an expert but I hope he is getting the very best help he can get.
It is amazing to me that this type of injury is now missing 8 - 10 months where before it would take down a career. Hoping for the former for Mr. Giles.
Things like that make me wonder if players come back to fast and then compensating for it causes other damage. I am definitely not an expert but I hope he is getting the very best help he can get.
It is amazing to me that this type of injury is now missing 8 - 10 months where before it would take down a career. Hoping for the former for Mr. Giles.
He might be better off sitting out next year and fully recovering , torn ACL and MCL , broken bone in hand and now another torn ACL(fathers says it's partial but....) could be another Oden or that Kansas center picked by the 76ers who I think may not have played a pro game yet. I predict Giles will have a short career similar to Derrick Rose (I know he is still Playing).
ACL tears are VERY different than foot problems which plagued so many NBA big men. These days guys make full recoveries from ACL's (watch Todd Gurley on a Sunday for the most recent example). The foot problems are much more career threatening.
All the injuries are worrisome yes, but it won't be an ACL tear that ends his career.
All the injuries are worrisome yes, but it won't be an ACL tear that ends his career.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE, this playing year round just is not good, these kids need down time so their bodies can rest. All the games, all the travel, just wears them down, this well could be a factor in this latest injury for Giles.
You do have to wonder, not even out of high school yet and will have had both knees blown out. Recovery, especially at his age is expected but it is never going to be what it was prior to the injury.
Gurley has also been hurt more than once. He was battling injuries as early as his senior year in HS. Some guys are prone to tearing ACL's and we don't know for sure it is a partial tear and it's not just the physical it's also the mental aspect. I seriously doubt he will be back for the McD's game. I cannot see it being worth the risk.
Yea, I dunno if the MCD AA game would be worth the risk. Regardless, though, I hate it for this kid. Good news is that it's a partial tear which in many instances isn't as bad.
Totally agree on the knee/foot comparison; a bad foot is a nightmare compared to a knee where only one ligament is involved.
Totally agree on the knee/foot comparison; a bad foot is a nightmare compared to a knee where only one ligament is involved.
Rose had one ACL injury. Dude has also had two torn meniscuses, back injuries, sprained toe, groin, orbital bone.
He's made of glass. If it were just the ACL, he would have played the last two full seasons and you'd have to think at a higher level than he is now. All of those other injuries have kept him off the court longer than the ACL and are the reason he hasn't played at all in like 4 years.
Rose didn't have any injuries through college to the best of my memory. Giles has had several prior to HS senior year. Just saying.
If I were his parents I would probably advise him that his next performance should be in front of Nba scouts only. If he does come back and injures anything, he will possibly/probably be labeled at that time. The risk is simply too large to take (all, imo)...
Hope he is not forced into that.
Would be a bummer not to experience at least 1 year of college. I have never done anything that duplicates it.
Of course, I have never signed a contract that gives me financial freedom. So I guess that option isn't horrible.
Would be a bummer not to experience at least 1 year of college. I have never done anything that duplicates it.
Of course, I have never signed a contract that gives me financial freedom. So I guess that option isn't horrible.
After 2 ACLs before the age of 18, I think he's probably already going to get that label either way. Needs to come back to (i) reassure teams that he can stay healthy, and (ii) remind teams of what he can do. Unfortunately, at this point, health is going to be a major red flag with him -- and nobody's going to touch him with a top 5-10 type pick if he doesn't get on the floor and prove he's regained the type of explosiveness that makes him a #1 type prospect. If it was one injury, maybe I'd agree with that idea. But, with 2 ACLs, I think he's already probably going to get the Greg Oden / Embiid-type tag unless he can show enough to cause people to take a chance with his injury history. Really, at this point, unless he comes back and absolutely dominates -- not sure how any GM would consider investing a top 5-10 pick on him if there are any other plausible alternatives in the 16-17 class -- which I think there will be.
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I agree. I don't think sitting benefits him. The best case scenario is to play and prove he can play.
Sounds like some of you aren't familiar with, or don't work in, Ortho. Knee ligaments can be tricky, but if you think this is career-ending, or anything close, you're very wrong. And no, this isn't the same as a jones fracture or foot injury that can linger, especially for basketball bigs.
Who said career ending? I think most people agree that 2 ACL tears before the age of 19 is concerning though....
Read through the thread and you will see talk of "he better skip the collegiate level to get paid" - to me that is assuming he will go to the NBA, have it happen again, and be screwed. 2 ACL tears in the SAME knee? yep, that is concerning. One in EACH knee? Not as bad as it seems, especially considering that he is as active as he is, 6'10.5 and still growing. There is definitely a bit of overreacting on boards revolving this injury.
No,
Two ACL injuries befor the age of 19 is concerning whether it was the same knee or not. To call an injury that almost takes a year to heal not concerning is foolish, especially in a sport where stop and go and cutting is the norm.
not to mention the mental aspect of wondering when the next time may come.
Giles could come back and break a bone in either foot for all any of us know at this point. My point is that I would limit those chances until he is auditioning in front of Nba scouts. One year in college, at less than 100%, could indeed make him a second round pick if he injures anything at all (imo). Reduce the risks and more importantly, give Giles BODY a rest. He will then go Top 1-5 next spring w/o anymore injury concerns from competition (jmho)...
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