Heels ranking on Monday 2/29

[Heelicious]

I know all that matters is what the Heels do this week, and I hope they can get focused for two great games..... but it is fun in the meantime to wonder and discuss where the Heels will be ranked on Monday. The games that likely matter in the rankings as far as the Heels are concerned, are over today.

Xavier got beat pretty soundly by an unranked team, after knocking off Villanova. Nova sort of struggled for a while with a pretty bad Marquette team. Our loss was against a really good team at home in arguably the best conference (I'd say ACC and Big 12 are about equal, with Big 10 close behind. SEC, PAC 10, and Big East are all pretty weak. Oklahoma has really played pretty inconsistently, and just got destroyed (22-0, 25-5 at end of game yesterday). And everybody close behind us in the rankings had at least 1 loss, as bad or worse than us.

So I think the rankings will be:

1 KU
2/3 Nova
3/2 UVA (recall they lost to Miami this week, I sure think they are better than Nova, though
4 MSU
5/6 OK / Xavier
7 UNC - ie right where we were last week.
8-25 everyone else. Nobody behind us had a week to leapfrog us.

Thoughts?

 

[UNC-75]

Certainly top 10. Really doesn't matter as we all can agree on, but it would be nice

 

[HeelFan58]

I only care what our ranking is after the ACCTCG.

 

[Archer2]

I only care what our ranking is after the ACCTCG.

The higher we are now, the higher we'll be after the ACCTCG, regardless of how we do.

 

[ohio tarheels]

I say 8th but to me this year rankings or seeding just aren't as important as usual

 

[TarHeelMark]

We need to get at least a 2 seed and play in Raleigh.

 

[Archer2]

I agree, Mark. Raleigh is my goal.

 

[TarHeelTroy]

MSU will jump UVA. Spartans are playing great right now.

 

[Heelicious]

I see Miami jumped in front of us in the AP poll. We move down to 8.

I get that it doesn't matter that much, but is Miami really better than us? OK, they beat UVA by three and Louisville by a bit more. Both on Miami's home court. We would beat both these teams in DES too.

And just a week ago, we beat this Miami team by 25 and it could've been 35 if we didn't ease up. Their collection of losses is much worse than ours: Northeastern???; Clemson by 10, NC State by 16, who we just destroyed.

Again, they had a good week, but about 8-9 days ago we were up on them by about 40.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

In counting ACC teams (3 in the top 10 BTW), I noticed Louisville, ranked 11 in the AP, is unranked and not even listed as receiving votes in the Coaches' Poll. That's gotta be somewhat unusual. Most of the other teams are pretty consistently within a few spots in both polls. Does that poll not list teams ineligible for the postseason or something like that?

 

[TarHeelTroy]

I agree Miami shouldn't be over UNC. I would argue we're better than Oklahoma as well. But nobody to blame but ourselves! We have put ourselves in the position of needing to win out, at least to the ACCT final.

Associated Press Top 25
1. Kansas
2. Michigan State
3. Villanova
4. Virginia
5. Xavier
6. Oklahoma
7. Miami (Fla.)
8. North Carolina
9. Oregon
10. West Virginia
11. Louisville
12. Indiana
13. Utah
14. Maryland
15. Purdue
16. Iowa
17. Duke
18. Arizona
19. Baylor
20. Texas A&M
21. Iowa State
22. Kentucky
23. Texas
24. SMU
25. California

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

In counting ACC teams (3 in the top 10 BTW), I noticed Louisville, ranked 11 in the AP, is unranked and not even listed as receiving votes in the Coaches' Poll. That's gotta be somewhat unusual. Most of the other teams are pretty consistently within a few spots in both polls. Does that poll not list teams ineligible for the postseason or something like that?

Correct. You won't see Louisville, SMU, or any other post season ineligible team receiving votes in the coaches poll. They only vote for teams that are eligible. One thing I found interesting about the differences between the two polls is where they have Duke. #17 by the writers, and #21 by the coaches (and that doesn't include Louisville, which if ranked by the coaches would bump Duke to #22 in their poll). Kind of a wide range of opinions for that team between the writers and the coaches.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

I see Miami jumped in front of us in the AP poll. We move down to 8.

I find that odd too. That they'd put Miami one spot ahead of UNC, when UNC just routed them in the week prior. Now obviously you have to take into account the whole body of work, and if we were to lose to Cuse tonight, that doesn't mean Cuse all of a sudden hops UNC in the polls because they beat them - but the optics of having two teams ranked concurrently, and having the loser of the matchup in the past week being the one that is higher ranked just looks odd.

 

[r_u_worthy]

It' probably more with the Canes going 2-0 last week and the rest of the Top Ten splitting or worse!