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Hood and Brown

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My guess is that Hood will miss at least 1 game. And I think that should be the impetus to play Jordon Brown. Even he only carries the ball once in 4 plays, get him in there - just in case.
 
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I'm not sold on Francis, and I sure hope we keep TJ healthy. I hope Hood is going to be okay.
 
I agree with Woad. Logan and Francis are definitely gone after this year, and Hood could be as well. Brown could very well be our first option at RB next year, I'd like him to have a little experience coming in to the season. Otherwise, our RB's and our WR's are going to be very inexperienced next year, with the exception of Proehl. It's going to be a shame to have one of the best passing QB's in school history(provided Mitch returns), and have such an inexperienced group of skill players around him.
 
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It's odd that he isn't playing. Is Brown hurt?
Fedora being Fedora, he could be and we would have no idea.

One thing that many frosh RBs struggle to learn is blocking. if Brown is having a hard time blocking, that could explain no PT.
 

I would prefer he not redshirt. Without a grad transfer or JUCO, he's potentially the only guy in our backfield that will have played in a college game heading into next season. I think it's mostly been a combination of the schedule and the inconsistency of the OL. I bet we will see him get some action once the schedule lightens up over the last five games. Usually that wouldn't be worth it to burn a kids shirt, but in this case it could be a huge deal to get Jordan some live fire reps before next year.
 
Not agreeing or disagreeing about whether he should, just saying that appears to be Fed's intention. If we didn't see him in a 25-point win against IL or a 28-point win against JMU, I'm guessing we're probably not going to see him at all barring an injury to one or two of the other RBs.

It's weird, though, that no RBs beyond our third stringer have gotten any carries this season. I used to love seeing Charles Brunson get in there and bust things up. Or how awesome would it be to see Mastromatteo come in and get a few carries? LOL.
 
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Maybe the coaches have good reason to believe Hood will be back? I know everyone has kinda assumed from the end of last year that he would have another great season and go pro, but maybe that's not the case? It seems like if the coaches knew that JB was going to be their only returning back, they would absolutely want to get him some game experience this year.
 
last two posts are good points. Only other logical reason is something like injury or they don't see him being an RB option next yr (due to pending position change, horrible skills, etc) so aren't gonna waste the reps
 
last two posts are good points. Only other logical reason is something like injury or they don't see him being an RB option next yr (due to pending position change, horrible skills, etc) so aren't gonna waste the reps
If they don't see him as a RB option then somebody better get on the recruiting trail Friday Night.
 
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Been keeping up with the Carter kid that we have coming in...He is having a very good year...
 
If they don't see him as a RB option then somebody better get on the recruiting trial Friday Night.

I definitely have no idea, just making guesses to try and make sense of the fact that he hasn't gotten a single rep.
 
I speculated about the possibility of Hood returning if he has an average year. Even so, I'm getting Brown some game experience this year so that he's not a virgin on the field coming into next year, because he could very well be our primary RB. There are so many things I question about Fed's management skills. I really do think he's in over his head sometimes, even at UNC. That's why I can't help but laugh when I see people theorizing about him getting the HC position at a big time football program like LSU/UT/USC... Those schools would chew him up and spit him out.
 
. That's why I can't help but laugh when I see people theorizing about him getting the HC position at a big time football program like LSU/UT/USC... Those schools would chew him up and spit him out.
I would prefer that he realize that instead of you. CFB coaches probably have a little extra testosterone that prevents them from this realization.
 
I speculated about the possibility of Hood returning if he has an average year. Even so, I'm getting Brown some game experience this year so that he's not a virgin on the field coming into next year, because he could very well be our primary RB. There are so many things I question about Fed's management skills. I really do think he's in over his head sometimes, even at UNC. That's why I can't help but laugh when I see people theorizing about him getting the HC position at a big time football program like LSU/UT/USC... Those schools would chew him up and spit him out.
I don't follow this logic at all. What things do you think are too complex for Fedora to understand....? Don't tell me taking risks like going for two and such. That's his aggressive personality and is a choice -- it doesn't mean he's in over his head.

As for Brown, he's potentially redshirting for a few reasons or a combo of all of the following:

1. The coaches don't think he can yet replicate in a game what he did in spring and fall practice
2. Logan and Hood and the occasional Francis are holding down the RB spot and we don't need a fourth back -- remember, we are throwing it more this season thus far.
3. Potential hedging of bets if we do not land Zamir White next season; i.e. extending Brown's eligibility a year.

Back to Fedora for a second. He's been the most successful coach Carolina has had since Mack and is one of the best coaches we've ever had. He's also navigated this program through the darkest hour it's ever been through (x2 -- agent/impermissible benefit bowl ban season and then the academic scandal) and has us in the Top 25 for the second straight season. He's also won the Coastal which must be viewed as equivalent to winning the ACC in pre-ACCCG times, something Mack never did (winning a division of 7 is pretty similar to winning a league of 9).

Soooooooooooo.....I'm sure y'all will realize how great for UNC Fedora has been, after he's gone.
 
IMO Hood should have been thinking about coming back even if he played really well this year. There are several other 1st round caliber RB's that will be coming out this year, but he would likely be at the very top of the list next year.
 
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^ RB lifetime is so short, I know the money would be more if he can sneak up a round or two by delaying, but I think financially it might make more sense to jump when you can. He's been projected as 3rd to 4th round.
 
I don't follow this logic at all. What things do you think are too complex for Fedora to understand....? Don't tell me taking risks like going for two and such. That's his aggressive personality and is a choice -- it doesn't mean he's in over his head.

As for Brown, he's potentially redshirting for a few reasons or a combo of all of the following:

1. The coaches don't think he can yet replicate in a game what he did in spring and fall practice
2. Logan and Hood and the occasional Francis are holding down the RB spot and we don't need a fourth back -- remember, we are throwing it more this season thus far.
3. Potential hedging of bets if we do not land Zamir White next season; i.e. extending Brown's eligibility a year.

Back to Fedora for a second. He's been the most successful coach Carolina has had since Mack and is one of the best coaches we've ever had. He's also navigated this program through the darkest hour it's ever been through (x2 -- agent/impermissible benefit bowl ban season and then the academic scandal) and has us in the Top 25 for the second straight season. He's also won the Coastal which must be viewed as equivalent to winning the ACC in pre-ACCCG times, something Mack never did (winning a division of 7 is pretty similar to winning a league of 9).

Soooooooooooo.....I'm sure y'all will realize how great for UNC Fedora has been, after he's gone.
You're painting with a mighty broad brush there, no need to be so defensive. First, I'm glad we have Fed. He's had success during a very tough time. However, he's certainly not above criticism, as is constantly said about Roy.

He is not very good at making in game adjustments, he tends to go with his predetermined game plan even if it isn't working. First and goal from the two with Hood in the game and we pass the ball three times. Not smart football. He randomly goes for two points, even when it makes no mathematical sense to do so. He's also loathe to admit to making mistakes.

Just a few things he needs to improve on before heading up a big time football program. Does that mean I don't appreciate him? Not at all. I just know he can get better, just like our players.
 
You're painting with a mighty broad brush there, no need to be so defensive. First, I'm glad we have Fed. He's had success during a very tough time. However, he's certainly not above criticism, as is constantly said about Roy.

He is not very good at making in game adjustments, he tends to go with his predetermined game plan even if it isn't working. First and goal from the two with Hood in the game and we pass the ball three times. Not smart football. He randomly goes for two points, even when it makes no mathematical sense to do so. He's also loathe to admit to making mistakes.

Just a few things he needs to improve on before heading up a big time football program. Does that mean I don't appreciate him? Not at all. I just know he can get better, just like our players.

No need to turn this into a big deal but I see what THN was getting at. Saying you disagree with some of his in game tactics and play calling isn't the same thing as saying he lacks management skills and is in over his head leading the program. IMO he has been an excellent leader and CEO of the program since coming on board and I don't have any complaints about how he runs things (maybe his no comments on injuries policy is unnecessary but it's really not a big deal). I too question some of the tactical decisions he makes and agree that he can be too stubborn to adjust at times, but overall he's proven himself to be a very capable head coach and chief exec.
 
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Fair enough. But I think we can agree that it's one thing to coach UNC and another all together to coach at a school like LSU where expectations are much greater. In game decisions he's made here would get him tarred and feathered in Baton Rouge.
 
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^ RB lifetime is so short, I know the money would be more if he can sneak up a round or two by delaying, but I think financially it might make more sense to jump when you can. He's been projected as 3rd to 4th round.
This will be a deep RB draft class.
 
You're painting with a mighty broad brush there, no need to be so defensive.
I'm not defensive. It's just mind-blowing to me that Fedora gets so little credit from our whiny fanbase.

He is not very good at making in game adjustments, he tends to go with his predetermined game plan even if it isn't working.
This sounds eerily similar to another head coach we have. That one is doing pretty well too.

What things do you think are too complex for Fedora to understand....? Don't tell me taking risks like going for two and such. That's his aggressive personality and is a choice -- it doesn't mean he's in over his head.
He randomly goes for two points, even when it makes no mathematical sense to do so.
Ugh.

He's also loathe to admit to making mistakes.
Simply untrue.

Just a few things he needs to improve on before heading up a big time football program. Does that mean I don't appreciate him? Not at all. I just know he can get better, just like our players.
He is certainly not without fault and needs to improve on in-game decisions for sure. I'm not arguing that whatsoever. I just think to say he's "in under his head" is very over the top. Football head coaches make terrible in-game decisions all the dang time, including Saban, Dabo, Jimbo, etc.
 
Fair enough. But I think we can agree that it's one thing to coach UNC and another all together to coach at a school like LSU where expectations are much greater. In game decisions he's made here would get him tarred and feathered in Baton Rouge.

Agree with you on that. Miles made a lot of funky and unconventional decisions early on in his tenure there to earn the "Mad Hatter" nickname. Fortunately for him most of them worked out and led to some big wins so he was celebrated for it. When they stopped winning and started losing games on some of those plays, they became stupid gaffes and unacceptable mistakes. It really is a fine line.
 
I'm not defensive. It's just mind-blowing to me that Fedora gets so little credit from our whiny fanbase.


This sounds eerily similar to another head coach we have. That one is doing pretty well too.



Ugh.


Simply untrue.


He is certainly not without fault and needs to improve on in-game decisions for sure. I'm not arguing that whatsoever. I just think to say he's "in under his head" is very over the top. Football head coaches make terrible in-game decisions all the dang time, including Saban, Dabo, Jimbo, etc.
I have to say you seem to have little faith in our fan base.

As for the comparison between Roy and Fed re: their stubbornness and hesitancy to change gameplans, I mentioned that very thing, as well as the fact that he gets criticized for it all the time. And rightfully so. And yes, both have been successful despite it and it's hard to argue with results. Yet fans will do just that.
 
This will be a deep RB draft class.

Several things i've seen point to 3 or 4 round pre-season and I think he's probably improved his stock with the great pass-catching (shoe string catches, like that safety) and very solid blocking.

Saquon Barkely and Bo Scarborough type guys are right behind. So I don't know he'll be able to jump into top 2 rounds by waiting. But NFL predictions seem crazy, so who knows.
 
Did anybody hear that Hood was actually diagnosed with a concussion? The only way that I can wrap my mind around burning Brown's RS is if Hood may be out longer. He missed a lot of games his freshman year.
 
Did anybody hear that Hood was actually diagnosed with a concussion? The only way that I can wrap my mind around burning Brown's RS is if Hood may be out longer. He missed a lot of games his freshman year.
It is probable that Fedora expects Hood out more than 1 game and so decided to get Brown into the mix.
 
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