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Hubert needs to decide if he wants to be the HEAD COACH!

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Anybody who knows anything about basketball could easily see that the talent gap between OSU and UNC was not very close. But for a stretch in the first half where OSU stretched the lead, and then in the 2nd half, this team looked as unfocused and careless as any witnessed in a long time. Of course, in both halves we had to endure the usual dose of Caleb's nightly audition for the NBA with back to back to back 30 ft bricks. Then you get the ball back with a 1 pt lead in regulation and what happens? Somehow we have Leaky jacking up a 3 from the corner? Leaky should know from day one that any shot other than a layup gets him a trip to the bench. We may win this thing, maybe not, in OT. But Hubert needs to do his job and put and end to the foolishness and control this basketball team. If not, things are not going to end well this year.
 
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They won. And, I'm pretty sure that Hubs has decided to be the head coach.
 
Anybody who knows anything about basketball could easily see that the talent gap between OSU and UNC was not very close. But for a stretch in the first half where OSU stretched the lead, and then in the 2nd half, this team looked as unfocused and careless as any witnessed in a long time. Of course, in both halves we had to endure the usual dose of Caleb's nightly audition for the NBA with back to back to back 30 ft bricks. Then you get the ball back with a 1 pt lead in regulation and what happens? Somehow we have Leaky jacking up a 3 from the corner? Leaky should know from day one that any shot other than a layup gets him a trip to the bench. We may win this thing, maybe not, in OT. But Hubert needs to do his job and put and end to the foolishness and control this basketball team. If not, things are not going to end well this year.

Leaky jacked up another 3 from the other corner prior to that one. You know, the one he made that cut the lead to 1. I guess he shouldn’t have taken that one either. He’s shooting better than 35% from 3.
 
Anybody who knows anything about basketball could easily see that the talent gap between OSU and UNC was not very close. But for a stretch in the first half where OSU stretched the lead, and then in the 2nd half, this team looked as unfocused and careless as any witnessed in a long time. Of course, in both halves we had to endure the usual dose of Caleb's nightly audition for the NBA with back to back to back 30 ft bricks. Then you get the ball back with a 1 pt lead in regulation and what happens? Somehow we have Leaky jacking up a 3 from the corner? Leaky should know from day one that any shot other than a layup gets him a trip to the bench. We may win this thing, maybe not, in OT. But Hubert needs to do his job and put and end to the foolishness and control this basketball team. If not, things are not going to end well this year.
That Leaky 3 was a good rhythm look in transition. Not a thing in the world wrong with that shot.
 
I'm just glad we won, but if I had my way we would not do so on the backs of several outstanding players making individual plays.
 
Then you get the ball back with a 1 pt lead in regulation and what happens? Somehow we have Leaky jacking up a 3 from the corner? Leaky should know from day one that any shot other than a layup gets him a trip to the bench.
Hey dumbass, Leaky had literally hit a clutch corner 3 a minute prior to that shot.
 
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Hey dumbass, Leaky had literally hit a clutch corner 3 a minute prior to that shot.
That doesnt mean it was a good shot lol. When you’re up
That Leaky 3 was a good rhythm look in transition. Not a thing in the world wrong with that shot.
Up 1 with the ball at the beginning of the shot clock with 50 seconds left and you’re saying there was nothing wrong with LEAKY BLACK taking a transition 3? Am i understanding you correctly?
 
That doesnt mean it was a good shot lol. When you’re up

Up 1 with the ball at the beginning of the shot clock with 50 seconds left and you’re saying there was nothing wrong with LEAKY BLACK taking a transition 3? Am i understanding you correctly?
I understand what you're saying, but I think I remember Dean would say 'if you're feeling it, take it' If Leaky Black, the coolest head on the court for us game in and game out is feeling it, I will NOT criticize him for taking it.
 
Considering the situation, I would have liked to see Leaky not shoot and try to run some clock and wait for someone to get fouled of go to the basket. The team seems to want to go for the dramatic shots too often it seems.
 
That doesnt mean it was a good shot lol. When you’re up

Up 1 with the ball at the beginning of the shot clock with 50 seconds left and you’re saying there was nothing wrong with LEAKY BLACK taking a transition 3? Am i understanding you correctly?
Time and situation, bud. We got a 2-for-1 because of the timing. Learn something.
 
I thought it was a good look. He shoots a good % from 3, it was totally in rhythm. If they burn the clock they can only get to 20 seconds or so. The end of clock shots are not typically that good of a look. You also get a two for one possession most likely. Sound strategy to shoot that.
 
I have to admit, I cringe when Leaky shoots a 3.. but Love is just as bad when he starts jacking up those prayers all because he thinks he’s got it going because he hit a couple big shots prior. Ends up hurting us more than helping.

He tries to be the hero instead of taking good shots or making a better play.
 
I have to admit, I cringe when Leaky shoots a 3.. but Love is just as bad when he starts jacking up those prayers all because he thinks he’s got it going because he hit a couple big shots prior. Ends up hurting us more than helping.

He tries to be the hero instead of taking good shots or making a better play.
Volume shooter. But when it falls, it falls. Dude will most likely will start raining 3s before long. Once he starts driving and shooting midrange consistently, his outside shot will stroke. Just as well get use to it, he is going to shoot regardless
 
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Anybody who knows anything about basketball could easily see that the talent gap between OSU and UNC was not very close. But for a stretch in the first half where OSU stretched the lead, and then in the 2nd half, this team looked as unfocused and careless as any witnessed in a long time. Of course, in both halves we had to endure the usual dose of Caleb's nightly audition for the NBA with back to back to back 30 ft bricks. Then you get the ball back with a 1 pt lead in regulation and what happens? Somehow we have Leaky jacking up a 3 from the corner? Leaky should know from day one that any shot other than a layup gets him a trip to the bench. We may win this thing, maybe not, in OT. But Hubert needs to do his job and put and end to the foolishness and control this basketball team. If not, things are not going to end well this year.
There was a lot going on than just those plays you pointed out. Hubert and the staff have total control of this team. Anybody can lose a game. your talent level point out of context. Don't be disrespectful. Hubert and this team grow together that's why they call it a season.
 
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There was a lot going on than just those plays you pointed out. Hubert and the staff have total control of this team. Anybody can lose a game. your talent level point out of context. Don't be disrespectful. Hubert and this team grow together that's why they call it a season.
Agreed. Besides, the talent level of the two teams is quite similar. UNC doesn’t have a sure fire NBA player on this team. d00k starts three, UK two or three, etc… This was a good win on the road against a well coached team. Last year at this time we would have lost this game. I think we grew up some.
 
Agreed. Besides, the talent level of the two teams is quite similar. UNC doesn’t have a sure fire NBA player on this team. d00k starts three, UK two or three, etc… This was a good win on the road against a well coached team. Last year at this time we would have lost this game. I think we grew up some..
I see where you're coming from. and your talent level point yea. ohis st has an unorthodox team with unorthodox players. dook and uk yea, I believe they do (unc) they could have left last year. however, I see why you would say that. Its 32 teams. like you said we grew some and were still growing. oh and the talent level comment i said on my reponse to midline was i wanted some more context the talent level was very close.
 
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Leaky jacked up another 3 from the other corner prior to that one. You know, the one he made that cut the lead to 1. I guess he shouldn’t have taken that one either. He’s shooting better than 35% from 3.
You dont take that 3 in that situation.

It was a terrible shot.
 
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Considering the situation, I would have liked to see Leaky not shoot and try to run some clock and wait for someone to get fouled of go to the basket. The team seems to want to go for the dramatic shots too often it seems.
I agree with this in principle, but then I've seen too many times that this strategy has resulted in a rushed, out-of-position and well-defended shot as the shot clock is running out...and a miss, with the opponent coming down and taking the lead. Also, if I'm the other team I'm not going to bail you out with a foul toward the end of the shot clock if there's reasonable time left on the game clock to score.

Until the shot clock is inside the game clock, I say if you've got the shot and you're feeling confident, take it. DON'T jack one up from four feet outside the three-point line.

When you're trying to find and take that shot, you have to factor in things like the refs reluctance to blow his whistle at the end of a very close game, coupled with the opponents determination to keep you from getting off a good shot. You can't rely on the ref. Better take the opportunity that presents itself.
 
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completely different mindset in the second half…announcers mentioned hubert said “you’re getting punked” so perhaps they understand that it’s 40 minutes of exerting your will on someone…hopefully.
this is no lie. I didn't see the thing you're talking about, and I had walked away from the game because I was frustrated. But I started imagining what I would say in the locker room if I was Hubes, and I thought I would probably be yelling at them that they were playing like punks. Maybe I have ESPN.
 
Was the one he made a minute earlier also a terrible shot? It was not late in the shot clock either.
No because we were behind and he took it off a kick out.

Not on a break up 1 at the end of the game.

Its situational. Its not even remotely the same.
 
It was not at all. Time and situation. Pull the ball and you lose a 2-for-1. and if he makes it that's a dagger. It was a rhythm look in transition.

Now, had we been closer to 30 seconds then yes, you pull it.
Agreed. Not a bad shot at all. He had just made one and it was in rhythm off of a good pass. He just missed it. Np with that at all. I would much rather of had that shot attempt than when we try and melt a shot clock and throw up a forced prayer. It wasn’t a dribble, dribble, dribble forced three point attempt like we have been doing so much of this year. As you pointed out a two for one. Which I’m surprised that more coaches are not doing that in games.
 
There was one guy. ( Sensabaugh) on the floor that will be in the NBA for 15 years, and he wasn't wearing Carolina Blue. Not sure what you think an overwhelming talent advantage is? Their freshman pg will be All Big 10 multyple years before he graduates too
 
The point of a 2 for 1 is to take a high percentage shot while leaving enough time on the clock to ensure you get the ball last

On no planet is Leaky taking a transition 3 considered a high percentage shot. You guys sound ridiculous
 
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The point of a 2 for 1 is to take a high percentage shot while leaving enough time on the clock to ensure you get the ball last

On no planet is Leaky taking a transition 3 considered a high percentage shot. You guys sound ridiculous

Right now, it’s a higher percentage shot than Caleb or RJ taking one. Did you watch the 2 minutes prior to that sequence? He just took & made a transition 3. If he made the 2nd one the narrative on this board would be drastically different. Guys are going to have to play to win & in doing so, take tough shots. What’s ridiculous is that we’re bitching at each other on a message board after the biggest win of the year because everybody is convinced their thought process is correct.
 
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The point of a 2 for 1 is to take a high percentage shot while leaving enough time on the clock to ensure you get the ball last

On no planet is Leaky taking a transition 3 considered a high percentage shot. You guys sound ridiculous
Wrong again. That's the highest pct 3 you're gonna get... easily 60% for a great shooter and probably 50% for Leaky, You can beat this dead horse all you want amd you'll still be wrong.
 
The idea of a 2 for 1 is if they do score on their last position you have a chance to respond. You do not want to force a prayer up to get that, but the short corner wide open in rhythm 3 by a guy who shoots 30% plus from there and just nailed his last attempt from the opposite short corner is as good as you can hope for for a perfect 2 for 1 use of the clock.

If he passes it up their is no guarantee of not turning it over or having a much tougher look as the shot clock is under 5, or maybe the same exact look, but with Ohio State then having the last possession. That was a textbook usage of the clock under a minute. Gave UNC the most opportunities of winning, hitting the good look, getting a stop and then holding on with free throws, or having a chance to answer if Ohio State scores.
 
Wrong again. That's the highest pct 3 you're gonna get... easily 60% for a great shooter and probably 50% for Leaky, You can beat this dead horse all you want amd you'll still be wrong.
Leaky shoots 38% from 3 and almost all of his 3’s are open set shots because teams literally beg him to shoot. Its one thing for you to be wrong but its actually impressive how adamant you are about it. This is almost as good as your Platek should be starting PG take
 
The idea of a 2 for 1 is if they do score on their last position you have a chance to respond. You do not want to force a prayer up to get that, but the short corner wide open in rhythm 3 by a guy who shoots 30% plus from there and just nailed his last attempt from the opposite short corner is as good as you can hope for for a perfect 2 for 1 use of the clock.

If he passes it up their is no guarantee of not turning it over or having a much tougher look as the shot clock is under 5, or maybe the same exact look, but with Ohio State then having the last possession. That was a textbook usage of the clock under a minute. Gave UNC the most opportunities of winning, hitting the good look, getting a stop and then holding on with free throws, or having a chance to answer if Ohio State scores.
Bingo.
 
Again, that's just not correct. Passing up that look with that much time left is playing "not to lose". And again, that is a lot of time.
Passing up that look means nothing but a chance to run clock.

That shot was exactly what they needed to get the lead back.

We were in the bonus.

A veteran team should know better.

It was only a good shot if it went in. Other than that it was stupid.

If it was a better shooter I might think otherwise but probably not.
 
Leaky shoots 38% from 3 and almost all of his 3’s are open set shots because teams literally beg him to shoot. Its one thing for you to be wrong but its actually impressive how adamant you are about it. This is almost as good as your Platek should be starting PG take
LMAO. You actually think wr're gonna get a bettet pct look if we pull the ball there? I'll take that bet every time. Your lack of basketball knowledge just never changes, does it?
 
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Passing up that look means nothing but a chance to run clock.

That shot was exactly what they needed to get the lead back.

We were in the bonus.

A veteran team should know better.

It was only a good shot if it went in. Other than that it was stupid.

If it was a better shooter I might think otherwise but probably not.
100% wrong. If we were up 4? Then yeah, run clock.
 
LMAO. You actually think wr're gonna get a bettet pct look if we pull the ball there? I'll take that bet every time. Your lack of basketball knowledge just never changes, does it?

Yes we had the momentum. We can get a better shot than Leaky out of the corner.

Have you been watching the games.

A dude who has dvore 2 points in 3 games is taking the biggest shot of the game.
 
Leaky shoots 38% from 3 and almost all of his 3’s are open set shots because teams literally beg him to shoot. Its one thing for you to be wrong but its actually impressive how adamant you are about it. This is almost as good as your Platek should be starting PG take
But if Gary says it, it's the gospel and you can take it to the bank! Regardless of how absurd it is!
 
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