In crunch time who do u want on the line Britt or Pinson

[IDUNK4HEELS]

It is no Brainer for me and I want Britt taking the shots at the line,and I want him in the game late for that reason. I know Britt is the one player here that a lot of people want blame for everything and anything that Carolina does wrong but as valuable as Pinson is to the team I want a true point guard like Britt in the last minute of a contest when the game is on the line. If you disagree you may state your case but again all I am talking about is in the last couple minutes of the game when battle on the court is decided by clutch free throws and ball handling skills.

 

[Ozheelfan]

Stillman

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Britt.

 

[RoseHeel]

Neither

 

[Archer2]

Stilman.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Stilman, Hicks, Berry, Jackson in that order are the top 4 in FT percentage (other than Coker) - so based on odds that's the order of who I'd want on the line. If I could magically put Britt on the line after someone else got fouled, I might consider it, but I don't want him on the floor during crunch time due to other issues - so for that reason, I'd have to say I wouldn't want him taking crunch time FTs.

 

[tarheel0910]

Another vote for Stilman.

 

[Heelicious]

Isaiah Hicks. Seriously, how nice (and a bit weird) is it to say that. All year it seems he has been the most reliable - especially / even in crunch time.

Remember he was 4/4 in absolute clutch time, game definitely on the line against Arkansas. I don't think even Berry, JJ, or Nate have been as reliable at end of game as Isaiah.

Obviously that's not saying he can be the guy handling the ball on the perimeter in end of game situations. But getting it to him on the primary or secondary break in these scenarios is a good option.

 

[Heeelz46]

Britts ft percentage has dropped by 30 points this year for some reason.

 

[Archer2]

In close end of game scenarios, I want Joel and Stilman on the floor. Period. What Stilman lacks in athleticism, he more than makes up for in basketball IQ and poise.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I don't care what the percentages say. If we need clutch FTs at the end of the game, I want Berry shooting them. After Berry, it's easily Isaiah and then JJ.

 

[toophly1124]

I don't care what the percentages say. If we need clutch FTs at the end of the game, I want Berry shooting them. After Berry, it's easily Isaiah and then JJ.

Earlier in the year I'd agree, but he's missed way too many front end one n ones to make me feel comfortable w him right now.

I vote Isaiah.

 

[IDUNK4HEELS]

It is strange that only Mike answered the question as it was asked very clearly...

 

[toophly1124]

It is strange that only Mike answered the question as it was asked very clearly...

God forbid people think outside of the box! What ever will we do?!?!

 

[ACokeForRoy]

Theo. He's a better creator / facilitator than Britt.. He plays with no fear. Britt plays a little too timid at times... IMO

 

[SKYBLUEWITCHEESE]

Pinson. Britt is not a threat in the half court. You at least have to account for Theo, in that he might drive to the hole and dunk/dish, and he will shoot the open shot. Defenses will pack it in with Britt in the game, congesting the lane for every else.

 

[Archer2]

It is strange that only Mike answered the question as it was asked very clearly...

Oh, we clearly understood the question. It's just that many of us think Stilman should be in there. If you disagree, just say so.

 

[Sk1310]

Earlier in the year I'd agree, but he's missed way too many front end one n ones to make me feel comfortable w him right now.

I vote Isaiah.

Same

 

[gunslingerdick]

Earlier in the year I'd agree, but he's missed way too many front end one n ones to make me feel comfortable w him right now.

He'll make them when they count most. He's easily the most mentally tough player we have. And honestly, as good as Hicks has been from the line, I think he's the most mentally weak player we have. I fear that the pressure would get to Hicks. Berry is tough. He'll make them. Or maybe he won't. But if he missed them, it wouldn't be because the lights are too bright.

 

[Archer2]

If I had to pick one guy, it would be a no brainer. Joel by a big margin.

 

[gunslingerdick]

It is strange that only Mike answered the question as it was asked very clearly...

Not strange at all. In fact, it would have been strange to me if everyone had answered the question exactly as you posed it. This is a message board. Hijacking is routine on message boards. You aren't new around here.

I'm not sure I could answer your question. It would be situational for me. Who are we playing? What kind of line up do they have on the floor? How much time? Who else do we have on the floor? There are too many other things I'd have to know before I could declare Pinson or Britt.

Britt has been better as of late. Pinson has been worse as of late. Obviously, Pinson's ceiling is much higher and can offer a lot more. But because he's so versatile, I think he often tries things he shouldn't. He's been turning the ball over more lately and I lose it when he jumps up in the air before he knows where he's going with the ball. Britt is sneaky and crafty but limited. Their ball handling is pretty even. Pinson is by far the more creative passer and has better vision. But he plays too risky at times for me. Britt on the other hand, is less likely to take a risk but on the flip side, less likely to make a play.

 

[Sk1310]

[QUOTE="gunslingerdick, post: 832566, member: 2052"]He'll make them when they count most. He's easily the most mentally tough player we have. And honestly, as good as Hicks has been from the line, I think he's the most mentally weak player we have. I fear that the pressure would get to Hicks. Berry is tough. He'll make them. Or maybe he won't. But if he missed them, it wouldn't be because the lights are too bright.[/QUOTE]

This is what I am hopeful for

 

[Heelicious]

He'll make them when they count most. He's easily the most mentally tough player we have. And honestly, as good as Hicks has been from the line, I think he's the most mentally weak player we have. I fear that the pressure would get to Hicks. Berry is tough. He'll make them. Or maybe he won't. But if he missed them, it wouldn't be because the lights are too bright.

GSD - I tend to agree with you..... but I think if we look at the Ark game, and IIRC the game we lost at Cameron - Berry didn't seem to perform up to expectations, and at least against Ark - Hicks was 100% clutch when the pressure was highest, and when everyone was tired (last 3 minutes).

I will sure take Berry from here on out. I think he will be clutch in crunch time, too. He'll do all he can to redeem how last year ended. I think we just need to give Hicks credit where its due. He can fall asleep, go soft, disappear for nearly entire halfs, which is disconcerting.... but I don't worry about these things happening for him at the FT line. I feel much more worried if - say - Meeks or Pinson are going to the line late. My order would be:

Berry
Stilman
Hicks
JJ
Britt
Pinson
KM
Luke
Bradley
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7th

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

With a small lead, probably Britt. Depends on who we need to defend most. If they have a seriously good scorer who would be guarded by Theo, that probably tips my vote to Theo - but only if Theo is paying attention and playing well. He's been slipping back into old habits recently both on shooting form and losing defensive focus when his guy doesn't have the ball.

If we are behind, probably Theo - unless Nate is just having a good shooting game, which hasn't happened too often this year. Theo is just enough more athletic that he could give us more scoring options.

Stilman would also be a steady man to have on the court with a small lead. If Nate or Theo aren't having particularly good games, I'd be very comfortable putting in Stilman.

 

[ChiShankCity]

I recall Theo hit 2 clutch FT's at Duke last year so there's actually some evidence of him shooting big free throws late game in a big environment.

I'd rather have Theo since I think he has less fear.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

It is strange that only Mike answered the question as it was asked very clearly...

No, what's strange is that a question was asked of which of our 5th and 7th best FT shooters we'd prefer to have shooting FTs with the game on the line. I think it's clear that most people would prefer one of our better shooters to be there instead.

It'd be like me asking "Who do you want to take the 3pt shot as time expires: Kennedy or Tony?"

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Berry peaked in midseason. Since the beginning of February, he has shot 70% from the line (and that's rounding up).

Similarly, his 3-pt shooting has slipped to 35%.

I keep expecting to see him return to form, but he's cutting it close.

The good news for us is that pretty much guarantees he'll return next year, whereas if he had stayed on his earlier pace or even improved from there, he could well have been in line to be picked in the 1st round.

 

[coryfly]

Just for FTs between the two in the OP-Britt. Being in the game in clutch situations-Pinson.

Overall-I would have no preference between Berry and Hicks. I completely agree with Berry being the toughest player we have and he wouldn't be afraid of the moment. I think Hicks has his form down to the point he would be fine though. TBH, Jackson is the one who I can remember missing more clutch FTs than anyone else.

 

[dadika13]

Neither

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[diehard34]

I'd rather have Stillman on the line and on the floor period.

 

[dadika13]

I'd rather have Stillman on the line and on the floor period.

Everyone loves the backup QB until the starter gets hurt...

 

[Archer2]

It worries me when JJ or Kennedy is on the line. I think JJ needs to be a little more deliberate in his FT routine. It just seems like the ball is a hot potato when he is on the line. I think a couple of more dribbles and another breath would help his percentage.

 

[tarheel0910]

Everyone loves the backup QB until the starter gets hurt...

Worked out ok for the Patriots, Steelers and Dallas.

 

[dadika13]

It worries me when JJ or Kennedy is on the line. I think JJ needs to be a little more deliberate in his FT routine. It just seems like the ball is a hot potato when he is on the line. I think a couple of more dribbles and another breath would help his percentage.

Good point here.

I think the slow down has helped a guy like Hicks. I feel like he was nonchalant before this season and he's really focused himself on the line this year with a more deliberate pace.

 

[dadika13]

Worked out ok for the Patriots, Steelers and Dallas.

And horribly for the other 27-28 teams in the league. I'm a percentages guy, them don't sit well with me.

 

[Archer2]

Good point here.

I think the slow down has helped a guy like Hicks. I feel like he was nonchalant before this season and he's really focused himself on the line this year with a more deliberate pace.

I completely agree.

As for Stilman vs Nate shooting clutch FT's, don't forget that Stilman was pressed into service in the NCAAT in '12 and responded brilliantly. Like Nate, he is also a senior, albeit a 6th year senior due to his Mormon mission. There is probably not a more mature, grounded player on the team. I have the utmost confidence in him.

 

[dadika13]

I completely agree.

As for Stilman vs Nate shooting clutch FT's, don't forget that Stilman was pressed into service in the NCAAT in '12 and responded brilliantly. Like Nate, he is also a senior, albeit a 6th year senior due to his Mormon mission. There is probably not a more mature, grounded player on the team. I have the utmost confidence in him.

I trust Stilman if he was getting minutes in the game prior to big time free throws.

Any shooter knows it's SO tough to come in ice cold and knock down clutch free throws.

 

[Archer2]

I trust Stilman if he was getting minutes in the game prior to big time free throws.

Any shooter knows it's SO tough to come in ice cold and knock down clutch free throws.

Ergo, why many here have expressed a desire to see Stilman get more of Nate's 18 MPG for some time now.

 

[coryfly]

I trust Stilman if he was getting minutes in the game prior to big time free throws.

Any shooter knows it's SO tough to come in ice cold and knock down clutch free throws.

Yeah, I'm not sure it is ideal to suddenly change the way you do things in what could be the last game of the year. Regardless, he isn't going to anyway.

 

[johnhelvete]

Everyone loves the backup QB until the starter gets hurt...

Using that analogy, Stilman would be the third string QB, but I agree with your post. Any predictions for which player gets the "Nate Britt treatment" on here next season?

 

[UNC-75]

Put Britt on the line. He will miss and Pinson will grab the rebound and throw up a herky jerky no look off the top of the backboard shot that will count double. Three times if he runs to the corner first.