Is there any support for Fedora?
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Should have been fired after the ecu game...
No. Enough of the games and excuses. UNC needs to decide if they want to be serious about the football program, or not
I agree. The comeback against Cal provided some hope. We followed that with the worse than nothing at ECU.
So let's say that Fedora actually plays both Fortin and Ruder, so they each get a shot this year, and perhaps at least one of them keeps his RS. And we win 6 games and get a bowl, and Fedora fires Kapilovic as OC and brings in somebody decent, and he also fires Adams ( mediocre DL coach whose best value for us was his son).
Would anybody be for the return of Fedora under those circumstances?
I ask because we all know the administration has people trying to find the right way to keep Fedora one more year.
Would anybody be for the return of Fedora under those circumstances?
I ask because we all know the administration has people trying to find the right way to keep Fedora one more year.
UNC should be willing to spend 7 figures on both an established OC and DC. We need more football support staff as well.
Certainly for one side of the ball.
For an example of how we can get away with not paying that big for 1 coordinator and still be able to win the ACC: if we hire Lane Kiffin, we get a brilliant OC as the HC. The offense will be his baby regardless of the OC. If Kiffin is given the money to make a big DC hire, then we might have what it takes.
Clemson’s annual salary for their HC($8mil), DC($2 mil), and co-OC’s($800K each) is almost $12 mil. Unbelievable!
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Fedora should have been fired after ECU game and no reason he shouldn’t be fired now or anytime before the end of season. He’s a lame duck. That being said, a change in QB won’t be the fix all to our problems. We are among the least talented power 5 conference teams and below average/bad recruiting classes on deck. Bye Fedora!
I think many UNC fans who now see Kiffin in a negative light would warm up very quickly when he used his social media time to poke and prod Dookies and Wuffies and Wahoos and Hokies and Paul Johnson and FSU and Miami, and the SEC. In principle, we all may not care for such antics, but when they dig under the skin of Dookies and Wuffies?
I disagree about being the least talented...QB is the problem...Put Remner,Quise or Mitch on this team and we are undefeated...
No. This staff is good for at least 3 losses a yr regardless of talent
Don't forget that Heckendorf has underperformed since he got to Chapel Hill. His only responsibility is quarterbacks and the passing game......we could do better.
So you replaced half of the staff last year and another half this year....what's the point?
Fedora will have to go much sooner than later.
Recruiting is not going well, our competitors are developing players that a few years ago we were laughing that they were having to take, while our higher ranked players just never panned out.
Money must be tight if they are trying to squeeze another year our of Larry to save $4 Million. I wouldn't want Bubba making the next hire.
Totally agree. If you have any interest in playing with the big boys, you have to follow their pattern. An example is Clemson. They we're pretty decent, but even back when Tommy Bowden was there, they made the commitment to spend the money on facilities and have followed in up with spending big dollars on assistants and support staff. They basically follow the rules of if somebody at Alabama buys another jock, we go get one too.
See my post above. There's no way we're going to pay $12 mil a year for our HC, OC, and DC. No way in hell. Nor do we have to. Nobody's saying we have to try and be Alabama or Clemson, a top five program. But for half that much money we can hire a good enough staff to have us in the top 25 every year. Of that I've no doubt at all.
And that would suffice to put butts in the seats on a regular basis and make most of our fans happy.
Kool, step away from the drugs my friend..... WoW.
Not trying to put you on blast but that’s stupid.
I agree. I've been trashing the Fedora staff since his Year 2. Most of that focus was on the D side, and when a total cleaning house of the staff on that side the ball did not correct the entire program, then my critical eye moved to the entire staff.
I think Chizik left very much because he no longer wanted to be under Fedora. I think Brewer knew he was fleeing a sinking ship with a captain who is incapable of allowing himself to see how poorly he has piloted. We hired a 3rd rate DB coach from Rutgers because that is all Fedora can get any more.
If the school were to give Fedora double the money for assistants, he'd have major trouble making upgrades because other coaches know he is not the kind of coach to learn from his mistakes and correct them and last. Fedora intends to pound those square pegs into round holes.
Fedora has 100% faith in his offense, and he cannot see that defenses have evolved so that his offense run as he did even 3 years ago is now rather predictable and easily contained. He will go down with the ship of his offense.
UNC must save the program by canning Fedora and making a good hire.
Can't support Fed moving forward and don't think he'll ever hire and utilize really good OC/DC coaches. Once you know someone needs to go, the longer you keep them the worse thing get. We'll get killed in recruiting until Fed is gone and we upgrade. Who wants to go to a program that's in the crapper but doesn't have the guts to get rid of the coach. A couple of bad recruiting cycles back to back and when the immediate talent is gone the new coach is in a bind.
Now that Doeren has established his program at NVSU, the rebuilding process won’t get any easier. Cut your losses.
It’s like watching Tom Weiskopf put five balls in Rae’s Creek and make a 13 on the par 3 12th hole at Augusta in ‘80. Every year is another ball in the water. Just cut your losses.
It’s like watching Tom Weiskopf put five balls in Rae’s Creek and make a 13 on the par 3 12th hole at Augusta in ‘80. Every year is another ball in the water. Just cut your losses.
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I support the UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA at Chapel Hill.
!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TAR HEELS !!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TAR HEELS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Until he gets caught banging Mike Fox’s daughter. He’s a loose cannon and overrated as a coach. They just lost to Middle Tennessee St.
He would be our Mark Gottfried
I can give you two facts in relation to your post:
1. Brewer leaving was not totally his decision
2. Chizik quite likes Larry and left because TV money is just as good and it’s a much better work/life balance. If he wanted to be coaching, other schools would have happily hired him as a DC or HC. Is son graduates this year and he may venture back into coaching then.
I again, agree with you. But your post so accurately reflects an issue at UNC. How many times have I/we heard over the years that UNC is a sleeping giant in regards to football. Could UNC draw a top line coach if willing to pay? Yes. And for a lot of reasons. Large in state recruiting base, and the ACC outside of Clemson at this time is more than manageable. But I always get the feeling that because of the success in basketball that most are satisfied with a decent program and not wanting to put forth the effort to try and be one of the elite. So let's go with that scenario and good coaches that can be had without breaking the bank. Lane Kiffen is affordable. One because he doesn't need the money, and isn't going to get one of the big time offers right now. But he is a good coach, and would be a recruiting magnet at a place like Chapel Hill. Satterfield at App would be an excellent choice. Brown at Troy is going to get taken by somebody. And maybe the best coach of all of them is Mike Houston at James Madison. I'd be happy with any of them to be honest.
Regardless of changes at QB, Deke or Kap, if we win out and win the bowl game, maybe you keep him for one more yr purely for financial reasons, but I think it depends on how much fan support he has in that final home game at Kenan. If he doesn't win back fans during this hypothetical win streak then you might as well fire him.
Fed has proven that his teams are not consistent enough in all phases of the game, so he needs to go eventually if we want to be consistently good. If we're okay with 8 wins and the above scenario occurs, maybe we see how recruiting goes in '18 and '19. But if he can't put more butts in the seats, then he's gotta go.
Also, Kap's role is probably the same as it was back in '12,'13,'14,'15, he just has a different title and pay. If the OL plays well, maybe you keep Kap, since he's a solid recruiter. The "OC" is a collaboration, always has been. If you want to change the OC-collaboration mix, maybe target Chad Scott, Heckendorf, WR coach or whoever is the weakest recruiting-wise.
And is Deke the reason for our bad D, or it is more about bad DL recruiting? If it is more about bad DL recruiting then is that more about admissions or about Deke or fan support or something else? Simply replacing Deke probably will not fix our DL.
I doubt Kap/Deke are the key ingredients. It never hurts to upgrade your coaching staff, but the root of the issues is Fed. If want to be consistently good, simply replacing Kap/Deke aren't the answer.
And is Deke the reason for our bad D, or it is more about bad DL recruiting? If it is more about bad DL recruiting then is that more about admissions or about Deke or fan support or something else? Simply replacing Deke probably will not fix our DL.
I doubt Kap/Deke are the key ingredients. It never hurts to upgrade your coaching staff, but the root of the issues is Fed. If want to be consistently good, simply replacing Kap/Deke aren't the answer.
deke isn’t regarded as a great coach...i think we know why he came back, but it didn’t work.
clean house, minus thigpen.
clean house, minus thigpen.
That is not what we want, but Gottfried did take MooU to the NCAAs 4 years in a row and made the Sweet 16 twice. That is better than Fedora.
And the Wufs did see that Gottfried's best days were behind him and made the move.
A whole lot of us would be very happy with that.
It's mostly the older fans, because he talks too much and has sex. Keep in mind these are the same fans who bitch about Fed not talking enough and hates that he blows off the media.
He has the perfect resume to move up to a smaller and mostly unsuccessful school. If Bubba has to go down the list to hire him, he shouldn't get more than a three year contract. The risk is way too high for more than that.
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