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Jalen Washington(Off-Season)

Just hoping he can get some lateral mobility back. I've seen the kid since middle school on. He still has the touch, but is a TOTALLY different player after the 2 knee surgeries. Keep working big fella, hopefully the old athletic skill set returns. If not work the still ample new version to max it out.
 
The work ethic and mental toughness he has already displayed in getting this far makes me hopeful he will make it all the way back! His game will morph but he still has the potential to be a real matchup problem!
 
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Primary focus this offseason should be adding muscle.

Glad to see him out there playing. But the amount of lateral quickness and explosion he has lost is so glaring.
 
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That's so SDung!
Note the subtle technique of the "fake good" comment. Mixed with a humorous dose of irony. This is an excellent long game play because in the off chance one of them doesn't shoot well he can fan the flames of fan angst! It's brilliant and proof that he is the king of trolls!
 
That's so SDung!
Note the subtle technique of the "fake good" comment. Mixed with a humorous dose of irony. This is an excellent long game play because in the off chance one of them doesn't shoot well he can fan the flames of fan angst! It's brilliant and proof that he is the king of trolls!
Relax. I just don't care about offseason videos all that much. And I'm pretty high on Jalen. Last year, I thought he was our best NBA prospect. I think he has a lot of skills. I just don't care about mix tapes.
 
Would love to know what he weights right now, looks like he has filled out his frame some, legs look like he has been pushing some weight. I am guessing that he may well be 10lbs or so more than the last time we saw him in a game. Could be the cam angles to so I can't be for sure.
 
Click on my username, then click “ignore”. It won’t block me but you won’t see my posts.
How about you did it since you feel the need to highjack my thread.
I guarantee if you don't respond I wont either.
 
Jalen is working his tail off! It speaks to his courage and character. He has already made it in my book. I pray he gets to show peeps what he can do!
 
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Jalen is working his tail off! It speaks to his courage and character. He has already made it in my book. I pray he gets to show peels what he can do!
Rooting for him probably more then most if not all posting here. Was privy to some of his open runs back home "in the region".

As I said, when he came, the kid is all class, but saying it was all just a "botched" surgery and now they got it right, no problem, as some said here was plain silly. He is still big time and very skilled, huge upside, but a very different player then pre surgerylet alone the 2 surgeries. It was evident immediately after, but he was still VERY effective just not nearly as explosive, but he adapted.

There are pro athletes with "the best" nationally having similar issues, knee surgeries are not a given. It wasn't a "botched" initial surgery, it just did not "take". He is currently and has always worked his tail off. I'm rooting for him!!!!
 
Rooting for him probably more then most if not all posting here. Was privy to some of his open runs back home "in the region".

As I said, when he came, the kid is all class, but saying it was all just a "botched" surgery and now they got it right, no problem, as some said here was plain silly. He is still big time and very skilled, huge upside, but a very different player then pre surgerylet alone the 2 surgeries. It was evident immediately after, but he was still VERY effective just not nearly as explosive, but he adapted.

There are pro athletes with "the best" nationally having similar issues, knee surgeries are not a given. It wasn't a "botched" initial surgery, it just did not "take". He is currently and has always worked his tail off. I'm rooting for him!!!!
While I have heard from multiple sources that his initial procedure was not done properly, it really does not matter because the result is the same. As I understand it, he had his initial procedure done, rehabbed and came back to play AAU. He knew something just was not right because the knee just felt weak, did not have any explosion. Because of this his ranking took a hit, he started trying to play more on the out side rather than fight inside, when he felt an increase in pain to the point he could not play in a tourney when it was determined that the initial procedure was not successful and another procedure was required. The second procedure was done by a doctor UNC had suggested, the rest is well known around these parts having watched him play last season. Did he try to come back and play AAU ball to soon, was the procedure in some way not done properly seem to be more likely reasons that simply saying "it did not take", how did it not "take"?

I think most already realize that a kid coming off a knee after just a year removed is not typically going to have similar explosion they had prior to the injury, that it is usually the second year back that we see how far the kid can come back. I would be really surprised if there is anyone here that does not know that, I think we all do. But just as real is that it is typically a bit longer for big men to come back than it is for the smaller guys, something about longer tendons and muscular structure, above my pay grade. But the accepted mark tends to be 2yrs to really know what ya got.

So I would ask you about your time line, 2yrs did not pass from the time he initially had his procedure to the time it was determined he needed a second, I think it was barely over a year when that was determined. IN any event, you, I, nor anyone else saw him play 2years removed to be able to know how much of his old self he would be able to regain. Since his last procedure we are now and only now sneaking up to that 2yr mark (It think it may be end of Oct when it is a full 2yrs, may even be later) and we have not seen him for full tilt lately.

Now I am not saying the kid is fully recovered and has lost none of his old explosion, maybe you have seen enough at this point but I have not and would suggest few have, for all I know you could be one of those very few but I think you can appreciate my being a bit skeptical in not ready accepting that "but a very different player then pre surgery let alone the 2 surgeries.".

IN addition, have to keep in mind this kid was a freshman last season, was not allowed to play until well in to the season (so he was WAY BEHIND) and that even had it not been for the knee issues he was still a kid that drastically needed to add strength and weight to compete with the full grown men in the college game. I am not wanting to throw shade at you or your opinion but I feel like maybe you are a bit premature in pronouncing him unable to get back to the level of player he was on course to be prior to that knee. You may well be right but I think we have to see him in games this coming season to get a feel for that.
 
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Couple things I like about Washington. First he didn't give up, I am sure he couple have taken a medical retirement and UNC would have found a way for him to stay in school, usually through aide. 2nd he showed flashes last year, and could have transferred to a lesser powerhouse in D1 and been at least a second option (kids still want to get minutes).

I am looking forward to the rest of his career at UNC, I think he could become a UNC favorite before it is all said and done, a kid who sticks around 5 years with his red shirt year and we as fans can appreciate when it is all said and done.

I always say if you stay four years at UNC you should be able to make some money off basketball besides NIL. By the 2024-2025 season Washington is going to get his NIL money, and at minimum should be able to make money overseas, and possibly NBA when he finishes his UNC career.
 
6'10" with natural timing on blocks, rebounding, hustle, and a jump shot....I think he can get paid to play! The only questions I have about him are based on health! I expect him to thrive this year in a fast paced system driven by a natural PG. If he has the strength/stamina to keep up (he is at the perfect place to ensure this) and can stay pain free (big if) JW will show us his serious skills! If not, he will be taken care of by Family until he can!
 
Is a David Padgett comparison unfair to Washington? Padgett had injury after injury but had a pretty solid career for Kansas and Louisville. But was clearly an unexplosive player by his final season. But a career 10 PPG/6 RPG/60% FG. Not bad.

fwiw, last year I thought Jalen Washington was our best NBA prospect.
 
Knee surgery is not as sketchy as backs with how they take to different people, but there is a range of levels to how bodies respond, even returning to regular lifestyles afterwards, let alone with athletes wanting that high explosion back.

Guys like Adrian Peterson and Russell Westbrook fully recovered in supersonic time with no real loss. Heck, maybe even more explosion.

D. Rose lost significant burst and had to adapt his game severly, but stayed productive in a revamped style. Lonzo Ball looks like he may never be able to play at an elite level anymore.

Bigs tend to have an even higher variance with leg issues. Just keep working at it and adapt if needed, while striving for as near to that pre injury level as possible.
 
Is a David Padgett comparison unfair to Washington? Padgett had injury after injury but had a pretty solid career for Kansas and Louisville. But was clearly an unexplosive player by his final season. But a career 10 PPG/6 RPG/60% FG. Not bad.

fwiw, last year I thought Jalen Washington was our best NBA prospect.
Scott Willams is guy for UNC and the NBA that I also think adjusted and retooled his game.
 
Knee surgery is not as sketchy as backs with how they take to different people, but there is a range of levels to how bodies respond, even returning to regular lifestyles afterwards, let alone with athletes wanting that high explosion back.

Guys like Adrian Peterson and Russell Westbrook fully recovered in supersonic time with no real loss. Heck, maybe even more explosion.

D. Rose lost significant burst and had to adapt his game severly, but stayed productive in a revamped style. Lonzo Ball looks like he may never be able to play at an elite level anymore.

Bigs tend to have an even higher variance with leg issues. Just keep working at it and adapt if needed, while striving for as near to that pre injury level as possible.
All true.
 
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