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Georgia Tech targets Duke's Jeff Capel, Celtics' Jay Larranaga as next coach

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/georgi...vbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjExNTlfMQRzZWMDc2M-

Rumor has it that Capel has already been offered the job.

Capel should get out while he is hot and Duke looking to have some transfers. Heard another rumor that Obi "Wan Nobody" is being pushed out by K.

K getting caught lying is a big deal folks....let me tell you it is a big deal. K, the leader of men.
 
Leave a top 3 program, his alma mater, where he's next in line to be Head Coach when the 69 year old coach retires to go to GA Tech?

NO WAY I would do this.
 
While I don't care about Capel/Dook, Ga Tech is a great school. He could establish his thing there and if desperate, go seek a hire back at his precious alma mater, false gargoyles and all...
 
K is not retiring anytime soon folks. He is good for another 10 years trying to break Wooden's record. The sad thing is that he will not come close and he will retire a disgruntled man. If the money is right, Capel is gone. Following in the footsteps of K is not necessarily a good thing. Ask any coach that that has followed a legend.
 
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Steat said:
K is not retiring anytime soon folks. He is good for another 10 years trying to break Wooden's record. The sad thing is that he will not come close and he will retire a disgruntled man. If the money is right, Capel is gone. Following in the footsteps of K is not necessarily a good thing. Ask any coach that that has followed a legend.
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Spot on steat, the WORST coaching job in ALL OF SPORTS is the guy that gets the gig after a legend retires. I fully believe that was a huge factor in why Roy didn't step right in when Dean stepped down, or actually Gut after a couple years. You just don't follow a legend, you have no chance at all because fans will expect more of the same and that just does not happen.

I do disagree on K's time left, I do not expect him to hang on for more than 3 more years, if next season plays out like this last one did it could come sooner. Pretty much why he has looked more to one & done guys, knows he will not be there for a freshman to become a senior.
 
DSouthr said:
Spot on steat, the WORST coaching job in ALL OF SPORTS is the guy that gets the gig after a legend retires. I fully believe that was a huge factor in why Roy didn't step right in when Dean stepped down, or actually Gut after a couple years. You just don't follow a legend, you have no chance at all because fans will expect more of the same and that just does not happen.

I do disagree on K's time left, I do not expect him to hang on for more than 3 more years, if next season plays out like this last one did it could come sooner. Pretty much why he has looked more to one & done guys, knows he will not be there for a freshman to become a senior.
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Capel to Georgia Tech makes a lot of sense. The Carter kid from Atlanta (ranked #1 in 2017 class) is favored to commit to Duke later this year. Who is the lead recruiter for Duke for Carter? You guessed it....Capel! Jeff Capel would convince Carter to sign with Tech to start his legacy as an ACC coach. Capel could be the next Bobby Cremens at Georgia Tech. The guy can flat out recruit and it would be good for the ACC.
 
Steat is correct. This is a hotbed of bball talent in Georgia and surrounding areas like SC, Tennessee and Florida. Atlanta is a great city and he wouldn't have to sell going to school here. I always felt like Ga Tech is a goldmine for the right head coach. Great academics, ACC, beautiful city etc..
 
Steat said:
Georgia Tech targets Duke's Jeff Capel, Celtics' Jay Larranaga as next coach

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/georgi...vbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjExNTlfMQRzZWMDc2M-

Rumor has it that Capel has already been offered the job.

Capel should get out while he is hot and Duke looking to have some transfers. Heard another rumor that Obi "Wan Nobody" is being pushed out by K.

K getting caught lying is a big deal folks....let me tell you it is a big deal. K, the leader of men.
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I hope they have more sense than that. What an awful hire that would be.
 
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I hope they have more sense than that. What an awful hire that would be.
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Why do you feel that way? Capel is a force on the recruiting circuit and was ranked the as the #1 assistant coach recruiter in the USA by a recent publication. Now, you may disagree with that, but Duke has had a top 3 recruiting class for the last several years and Capel is one of the reasons for it. My take is that I would rather he take his recruiting prowness to another ACC school and get away from Duke. Yes, he had some problems at Oklahoma, but perhaps he has learned from his past mistakes. Would you rather he go to Georgia Tech or stay at Duke? Yes, they may want a more established coach, but they are not going to get one of the high profile established coaches. They need someone to recruit and Capel is one of the best out there.
 
I live in Oklahoma and they couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Thank God for Lon Kruger who got the program back on track. But UNC will always be my basketball team!
 
Crimson Ghost said:
I live in Oklahoma and they couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Thank God for Lon Kruger who got the program back on track. But UNC will always be my basketball team!
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Don't tell Georgia Tech about Capel's Oklahoma success.......;)
 
Steat said:
Why do you feel that way? Capel is a force on the recruiting circuit and was ranked the as the #1 assistant coach recruiter in the USA by a recent publication. Now, you may disagree with that, but Duke has had a top 3 recruiting class for the last several years and Capel is one of the reasons for it. My take is that I would rather he take his recruiting prowness to another ACC school and get away from Duke. Yes, he had some problems at Oklahoma, but perhaps he has learned from his past mistakes. Would you rather he go to Georgia Tech or stay at Duke? Yes, they may want a more established coach, but they are not going to get one of the high profile established coaches. They need someone to recruit and Capel is one of the best out there.
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Oh, he's a hellacious recruiter (and sketchy as a 3-dollar bill). Not much of a coach IYAM. And if what I've heard about him in AAU circles is true, he's as sketchy as ever.

But yeah, good point... I wouldn't mind getting that POS outta Durham.
 
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Why do you feel that way? Capel is a force on the recruiting circuit and was ranked the as the #1 assistant coach recruiter in the USA by a recent publication. Now, you may disagree with that, but Duke has had a top 3 recruiting class for the last several years and Capel is one of the reasons for it. My take is that I would rather he take his recruiting prowness to another ACC school and get away from Duke. Yes, he had some problems at Oklahoma, but perhaps he has learned from his past mistakes. Would you rather he go to Georgia Tech or stay at Duke? Yes, they may want a more established coach, but they are not going to get one of the high profile established coaches. They need someone to recruit and Capel is one of the best out there.
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Good recruiter..yes!!. Good coach..no!!..good recruiting make you look like a good coach!!..dook wasn't hurting in recruiting before capel got there..the NCAA mess is helping them get over half of the recruits that other wise would've came to unc!!..not capel!!
 
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Good recruiter..yes!!. Good coach..no!!..good recruiting make you look like a good coach!!..dook wasn't hurting in recruiting before capel got there..the NCAA mess is helping them get over half of the recruits that other wise would've came to unc!!..not capel!!
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Would you rather have Capel at Georgia Tech or Duke? I'll hang up and listen?
 
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Oh, he's a hellacious recruiter (and sketchy as a 3-dollar bill). Not much of a coach IYAM. And if what I've heard about him in AAU circles is true, he's as sketchy as ever.

But yeah, good point... I wouldn't mind getting that POS outta Durham.
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What you have heard about Capel can probably be said about 50-75 other coaches out there. Being sketchy is not illegal. The majority of the AAU circuit is corrupt. Some coaches like Bill Self only need to make a call to a high ranking shoe company Exec and say something like "We want this player real bad" ....These are codes words for the underground shenanigans that will follow. i.e. Udoka. Regardless, I would rather Capel go to Georgia Tech and get a way from Duke. The more teams in the conference that can beat Duke the better. Capel could do that at Tech.
 
Steat said:
What you have heard about Capel can probably be said about 50-75 other coaches out there. Being sketchy is not illegal. The majority of the AAU circuit is corrupt. Some coaches like Bill Self only need to make a call to a high ranking shoe company Exec and say something like "We want this player real bad" ....These are codes words for the underground shenanigans that will follow. i.e. Udoka. Regardless, I would rather Capel go to Georgia Tech and get a way from Duke. The more teams in the conference that can beat Duke the better. Capel could do that at Tech.
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Well.... let's just say I was being politically euphemistic using the term "sketchy" ;)
 
I would much rather Capel be at GT and not recruiting for duke. He would not have the cover that K provides, some of that sketchy would have to be tempered when he has to deal with the blow back from it and not have K to protect him.
 
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Capel may be out of consideration due to a possible unwritten agreement between K and him that he would not accept an ACC job if offered. This may have been a condition of employment when K rescued him from Oklahoma. The more I look at it, K could make it very difficult for Capel to get the Duke job when he retires if he accepted the GT job. He may not be the top candidate anyway, but K could make sure that he was not even considered.
https://georgiatech.n.rivals.com/news/q-s-take-on-the-basketball-search
 
If Capel has been a big part of Duke's recent recruiting successes, does that suggest K might be closer to retirement than we might have thought?

You know he wants to go out on a highly successful year. Next year could be the class that gets him there. In other words, he may not care if he loses his best assistant on the recruiting side because he plans to be gone in a year, or 2 at most.

I had previously thought he would coach at least 2 more years so he could break 1100 wins - on the theory that no one would ever be able to break his record if he pushes it that high. But maybe he'll be satisfied to break 1000 at Duke and snag another title - both of which he could do next year with this incoming class.
 
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Capel may be out of consideration due to a possible unwritten agreement between K and him that he would not accept an ACC job if offered. This may have been a condition of employment when K rescued him from Oklahoma. The more I look at it, K could make it very difficult for Capel to get the Duke job when he retires if he accepted the GT job. He may not be the top candidate anyway, but K could make sure that he was not even considered.
https://georgiatech.n.rivals.com/news/q-s-take-on-the-basketball-search
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So you're thinking he may have taken the job over K's objections?

Might actually be a good sign for Capel if he can resist K's mind control.
 
Steat said:
Capel may be out of consideration due to a possible unwritten agreement between K and him that he would not accept an ACC job if offered. This may have been a condition of employment when K rescued him from Oklahoma. The more I look at it, K could make it very difficult for Capel to get the Duke job when he retires if he accepted the GT job. He may not be the top candidate anyway, but K could make sure that he was not even considered.
https://georgiatech.n.rivals.com/news/q-s-take-on-the-basketball-search
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You mean K would actually hold back one of his assistents and former player from a great opportunity? The leader of men would not allow one of his men the opportunity for advancement? Now that wouldn't sound much like a leader to me, does that sound like the great leader of men to anyone else?
 
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You mean K would actually hold back one of his assistents and former player from a great opportunity? The leader of men would not allow one of his men the opportunity for advancement? Now that wouldn't sound much like a leader to me, does that sound like the great leader of men to anyone else?
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Dave, I would not put anything past the great leader of men. Thus far, no one has broken the Duke "code".
 
I was wondering why Ga Tech took so long to can Gregory. I guess 5 years is a fair shot. He actually improved greatly this year. They had a good coach with Hewitt and canned him. Reminds me of Clemson's firing of Oliver Purnell. He'd taken them further than any previous coach. Now, they have the epitome of under-achievers in Brad Brownell.

I don't care where Capel goes, his head will just get fatter.
 
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I was wondering why Ga Tech took so long to can Gregory. I guess 5 years is a fair shot. He actually improved greatly this year. They had a good coach with Hewitt and canned him. Reminds me of Clemson's firing of Oliver Purnell. He'd taken them further than any previous coach. Now, they have the epitome of under-achievers in Brad Brownell.

I don't care where Capel goes, his head will just get fatter.
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I don't remember Clemson firing Purnell. I think he just bolted on his own. Regardless, BC shouldn't have let Skinner go, GT never should've let Hewitt go, and Clemson should've done whatever possible to keep Purnell. I'd say the same about Dixon at Pitt, but I also think Pitt will recover and be fine. They have tremendous facilities by all accounts. Down here in Jacksonville I've heard talk of FSU being ready to move on with Hamilton, which obviously would be stupid. Some of these schools need to understand their ceiling a little better.

Edited to add VT with Seth Greenberg to this list of bad decisions, even though they ended up striking gold with Buzz Williams. At the time, Greenberg had them good every year and better than they had ever been.
 
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I don't remember Clemson firing Purnell. I think he just bolted on his own. Regardless, BC shouldn't have let Skinner go, GT never should've let Hewitt go, and Clemson should've done whatever possible to keep Purnell. I'd say the same about Dixon at Pitt, but I also think Pitt will recover and be fine. They have tremendous facilities by all accounts. Down here in Jacksonville I've heard talk of FSU being ready to move on with Hamilton, which obviously would be stupid. Some of these schools need to understand their ceiling a little better.
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Wasn't Skinner the coach when BC had Tyrese Rice?

I agree about the other observations. Maybe Purnell did leave. But, I seem to recall some sort of conflict. Purnell did terribly at DePaul.
 
strummingram said:
Wasn't Skinner the coach when BC had Tyrese Rice?

I agree about the other observations. Maybe Purnell did leave. But, I seem to recall some sort of conflict. Purnell did terribly at DePaul.
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Yeah, Tyrese Rice and Dudley. Those guys were both absolute studs.
 
goheels653 said:
Yeah, Tyrese Rice and Dudley. Those guys were both absolute studs.
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The main thing I remember about Skinner is that every team coached by him looked like men against boys. Even when they weren't all that great, they played that way.

Larranaga's teams are like that, too. Part of it is that their players stick around, so they always have good experience. But part of it is the coaching style, I suspect.

Skinner was one of those guys who could get his team reliably into the second tier in the ACC, but only occasionally into the top tier. Sort of like Sendek at NC State.

Some schools just don't want to settle for good. They want best. Hasn't worked out too well for BC. Didn't work with Lowe at State, either, and the jury isn't in on Gott.

Tough to be in the top tier in a conference with 4 Hall of Fame coaches. Doesn't leave much room, and even then you are probably lucky to finish 4th or 5th. Bennett has made the grade. Buzz probably will. And Larranaga probably has a few more years in him, too.

You'd have to be pretty cocky to take a new coaching job in the ACC - or else be really desperate to move up. Of course if you are good and can hang on for a few years, the logjam may clear up a bit.
 
What Would Jesus Do? said:
The main thing I remember about Skinner is that every team coached by him looked like men against boys. Even when they weren't all that great, they played that way.

Larranaga's teams are like that, too. Part of it is that their players stick around, so they always have good experience. But part of it is the coaching style, I suspect.

Skinner was one of those guys who could get his team reliably into the second tier in the ACC, but only occasionally into the top tier. Sort of like Sendek at NC State.

Some schools just don't want to settle for good. They want best. Hasn't worked out too well for BC. Didn't work with Lowe at State, either, and the jury isn't in on Gott.

Tough to be in the top tier in a conference with 4 Hall of Fame coaches. Doesn't leave much room, and even then you are probably lucky to finish 4th or 5th. Bennett has made the grade. Buzz probably will. And Larranaga probably has a few more years in him, too.

You'd have to be pretty cocky to take a new coaching job in the ACC - or else be really desperate to move up. Of course if you are good and can hang on for a few years, the logjam may clear up a bit.
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This jury is not still out on Gottfried.
 
He is a good recruiter. He also was somewhat pedestrian at OU outside of the Griffin years. I would like to see him leave Duke because of the recruiting but he doesn't really strike fear into anyone as a coach.
 
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