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Thoughts on Trump's acknowledgement of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and decision to move the American embassy?
 
Got mixed feelings to some degree. Neither side has the moral hi ground. That ship sailed long time ago. This will stir shit up. While i do recognize the value of israel as an ally, Americans will die as a result of this decision. Either in terror attacks or on the battlefield. Prob both. Is it worth it? Not to me. I say fuk em all. Bunch of religous fanatics screaming at each other how their god of peace and love is better than the others god of peace and love and if u dont agree by god we’ll kill u.
 
Got mixed feelings to some degree. Neither side has the moral hi ground. That ship sailed long time ago. This will stir shit up. While i do recognize the value of israel as an ally, Americans will die as a result of this decision. Either in terror attacks or on the battlefield. Prob both. Is it worth it? Not to me. I say fuk em all. Bunch of religous fanatics screaming at each other how their god of peace and love is better than the others god of peace and love and if u dont agree by god we’ll kill u.
To be fair, the easiest solution to all of the Middle East is -- and always has been -- to wipe it off the map.

But, you know, oil.
 
To be fair, the easiest solution to all of the Middle East is -- and always has been -- to wipe it off the map.

But, you know, oil.

We got saudi in our back pocket. So long as that monarchy continues we’re good. But when it falls, and it eventually will, u can expect $10/gal gas.
 
Americans will die as a result of this decision. Either in terror attacks or on the battlefield
I don't really see that happening. Those type of people already hate Americans. This just gives them something to add to their list.
 
We got saudi in our back pocket. So long as that monarchy continues we’re good. But when it falls, and it eventually will, u can expect $10/gal gas.
I'd say that the Saudi's have America in their back pocket.
 
But, Americans will die that otherwise wouldn't have.
Eh, I don't think so. The people who kill them are going to kill them no matter what. Someone sitting in their house who didn't care about America isn't going to all of a sudden pick up a gun and kill people because of this.
 
Presidents since 1995 have recognized Jerusalem is the capital. Trump is just going to move the embassy. All that is required is moving a plaque and some security. We already have a diplomat there.
 
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Eh, I don't think so. The people who kill them are going to kill them no matter what. Someone sitting in their house who didn't care about America isn't going to all of a sudden pick up a gun and kill people because of this.
Well, I'm not sure what they're proposing to do, but sitting in rural NC is safer than sitting on Allahu Ackbar Avenue in Jerusalem. If the embassy has been in a safe place so far, why move it now if it puts them in aplace, geographically, that makes them more likely to be a target.
 
That's why the brave men and women of the US military are fighting them over there, so you can sit safely in rural NC.
No, it's not. But, I'm sure you believe that is the case. The "brave men and women" are fighting wherever they are fighting to make some corporate pimp's bottom line get bigger, or, at the very least, maintain its present status.
 
No, it's not. But, I'm sure you believe that is the case. The "brave men and women" are fighting wherever they are fighting to make some corporate pimp's bottom line get bigger, or, at the very least, maintain its present status.
Tell them that. You believe everything evil in the world is caused by some corporate executive.
 
Well, I'm not sure what they're proposing to do, but sitting in rural NC is safer than sitting on Allahu Ackbar Avenue in Jerusalem. If the embassy has been in a safe place so far, why move it now?
Because the law says we have to move it. Technically Trump isn't actually doing this. He's just not using his waiver authority.
 
Tell them that. You believe everything evil in the world is caused by some corporate executive.
No, I don't believe "every evil in the world" is caused by the same thing. Not even remotely. But, when it comes to war? I know for a fact that they are fought to increase the wealth, influence and property of a few at the expense of many. Now, it is vital to pitch the ruse as some noble and heroic endeavor to get the "brave men and women" to actually show up and slaughter each other time after time. And, that gimmick works well, and we have people like you to thank for that. Wars are expensive, and they have to pay off to make them worthwhile.
 
No, I don't believe "every evil in the world" is caused by the same thing. Not even remotely. But, when it comes to war? I know for a fact that they are fought to increase the wealth, influence and property of a few at the expense of many. Now, it is vital to pitch the ruse as some noble and heroic endeavor to get the "brave men and women" to actually show up and slaughter each other time after time. And, that gimmick works well, and we have people like you to thank for that. Wars are expensive, and they have to pay off to make them worthwhile.
You are such a hypocrite. You denigrate everyone that doesn't have the same belief system as you. Political, Religious, Moral, the list goes on. It's always "you people". I have no issue with you having your own belief system. I can't contend that you are right or wrong because none of us probably know. But you talk down on most everyone that doesn't fall in line with your belief system. And please enlighten us on how you know for a fact wars are only fought to increase the wealth, influence and property of others.
 
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You are such a hypocrite. You denigrate everyone that doesn't have the same belief system as you. Political, Religious, Moral, the list goes on. It's always "you people". I have no issue with you having your own belief system. I can't contend that you are right or wrong because none of us probably know. But you talk down on most everyone that doesn't fall in line with your belief system. And please enlighten us on how you know for a fact wars are only fought to increase the wealth, influence and property of others.
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You are such a hypocrite. You denigrate everyone that doesn't have the same belief system as you. Political, Religious, Moral, the list goes on. It's always "you people". I have no issue with you having your own belief system. I can't contend that you are right or wrong because none of us probably know. But you talk down on most everyone that doesn't fall in line with your belief system. And please enlighten us on how you know for a fact wars are only fought to increase the wealth, influence and property of others.
I'm just direct. I'm not intending to denigrate. So, I'm not a hypocrite, like you think I am. If it comes off to you as denigrating, then, I'm sorry. I won't say that we should thank people like you for that... does that help?

And, here's some proof from almost a century ago. From a Congressional Medal Of Honor recipient, no less:

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
 
I'm just direct. I'm not intending to denigrate. So, I'm not a hypocrite, like you think I am. If it comes off to you as denigrating, then, I'm sorry. I won't say that we should thank people like you for that... does that help?

And, here's some proof from almost a century ago. From a Congressional Medal Of Honor recipient, no less:

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
So we shouldn't have entered WWII even though the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. We just did it to go get Japan's and Germany's stuff.
 
So we shouldn't have entered WWII even though the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. We just did it to go get Japan's and Germany's stuff.
I don't know about WWII, but I do know that the only reason that the revolutionary war was fought was due to the fact that the Boston Tea Company wanted a monopoly on tea.
 
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So we shouldn't have entered WWII even though the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. We just did it to go get Japan's and Germany's stuff.

...sigh

No, of course not. We did it do defend honor, justice and The American Way! To make sure Good triumphed over evil. It was God's will and we are fortunate and thankful for every drop of blood that was shed that America is still that bright, shining light of FREEDOM!


Oh lort u done done it now. Take your meds strum. Breathe, breathe, go to your happy place, kittens, puppies, rainbows....


Omg too late, u done released the kracken


Kraken is back in the cage.
 
No, of course not. We did it do defend honor, justice and The American Way! To make sure Good triumphed over evil. It was God's will and we are fortunate and thankful for every drop of blood that was shed that America is still that bright, shining light of FREEDOM!
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It was God's will ---> everyone is God ---> we are God ---> we are OOTB ---> it was OOTB's will ---> OOTB won WWII ---> don't **** with OOTB

Congratulations everyone!
 
It was God's will ---> everyone is God ---> we are God ---> we are OOTB ---> it was OOTB's will ---> OOTB won WWII ---> don't **** with OOTB
I questioned using that embellishment. But, so be it. It really WAS "god's will."
 
Japan and Germany didn't start a war. They were just looking for business opportunities through aggressive mergers. The west started the war by denying them that business opportunity.
Yes... euphemisms do sound better.
 
No, it's not. But, I'm sure you believe that is the case. The "brave men and women" are fighting wherever they are fighting to make some corporate pimp's bottom line get bigger, or, at the very least, maintain its present status.
I have to agree here. We should pull out of every foreign country and protect the homeland. Israel can fend for itself. They have the best trained armed forces in the world. If we turn them loose and take off the handcuffs they will be fine.
 
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