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[WoadBlue]

Blake Anderson left Arkansas State for Utah State.

Arkansas State hired Butch Jones, who was fired by Tennessee while being 7 games above .500 for the Vols, including 3-0 in bowls.

Illinois fired Lovie Smith, who was 17-39 with the Illini.

Auburn fired Gus Malzahn, who was 68-35 with the Tigers.

 

[WoadBlue]

Arizona fired Kevin Sumlin, who was 9-20 with the Wildcats.

 

[Archer2]

Thanks @WoadBlue. I don't foresee Mack making too many changes after a very good year, especially if we can beat a very good team in a bowl game. I would be walking on clouds

I know you're not a big Searles fan, but we're putting up record numbers with a revamped OL. Longo is who worries me a little, but he was spot on in that game. If you can run it down their throat, run it down their throat. He mixed in the perfect amount of pass.

 

[gteeitup]

sumlin all of a sudden has become a zero.

 

[Archer2]

Enter social justice warriors.

 

[tarheel0910]

sumlin all of a sudden has become a zero.

Bunch of zeros in his bank account though.

 

[sctarheel30]

Bunch of zeros in his bank account though.

Same for malzahn and half has to be paid within thirty days. Not bad at all. Auburn canning Gus was a little surprising.

 

[tarheel0910]

Same for malzahn and half has to be paid within thirty days. Not bad at all. Auburn canning Gus was a little surprising.

Being a head coach at a P5 is a good gig. You can suck at your job and still make millions.

 

[WoadBlue]

sumlin all of a sudden has become a zero.

That is surprising. I thought that the weaknesses he had at A&M would not matter as much in the Pac. But he has hit rock bottom. Rich Rodriguez had 5 winning teams in 6 seasons at Arizona and was fired. Sumlin inherits a team used to winning, and drives it into the ground.

Herm Edwards is in many ways an opposite type coach to Sumlin. If Arizona makes a bad hire, AZ St will own the Wildcats for a long time.

If I'm AZ AD, I'm calling Malzahn.

 

[gteeitup]

That is surprising. I thought that the weaknesses he had at A&M would not matter as much in the Pac. But he has hit rock bottom. Rich Rodriguez had 5 winning teams in 6 seasons at Arizona and was fired. Sumlin inherits a team used to winning, and drives it into the ground.

Herm Edwards is in many ways an opposite type coach to Sumlin. If Arizona makes a bad hire, AZ St will own the Wildcats for a long time.

If I'm AZ AD, I'm calling Malzahn.

malzahn’s wife is nuclear...she’s not for every setting, just sayin.

 

[midline]

Very true. And if I remember correctly his wife was a huge reason that he wasn't considered more seriously at UNC years ago. Supposedly she is a very devout Christian. I don't have an issue there because I live Jesus as much as anybody. But apparently there was some video of her at some church conference where she was just way over the top.

 

[39 Feet Above Sea Level]

Just so dook doesn't fire Cutcliffe. I hope he stays in derm for a long, long time.

 

[JimmyinVA]

Just so dook doesn't fire Cutcliffe. I hope he stays in derm for a long, long time.

dook's problem is not cutcliffe. cutcliffe is actually a good coach. dook's problem is being dook.

 

[JimmyinVA]

...If I'm AZ AD, I'm calling Malzahn.

malzahn is a very good coach who got auburn in the national title game not long ago. but at au, it's beat bama or hit the road.

 

[WoadBlue]

Vanderbilt hires alum Clark Lea, the ND DC who stuffed the UNC run game that made Miami look like a weaker 1AA team.

It's a risky move for Lea. He is now at the top of the game as a DC, and he is only 38. The Vandy program is in very bad shape: no depth and totally demoralized. If Lea fails to revive it, he could be stuck with a DC job he doesn't care for. But if he wins at Vandy, he should be set for all kinds of job offers.

 

[midline]

Vanderbilt hires alum Clark Lea, the ND DC who stuffed the UNC run game that made Miami look like a weaker 1AA team.

It's a risky move for Lea. He is now at the top of the game as a DC, and he is only 38. The Vandy program is in very bad shape: no depth and totally demoralized. If Lea fails to revive it, he could be stuck with a DC job he doesn't care for. But if he wins at Vandy, he should be set for all kinds of job offers.

Don't understand this hire. Supposedly, folks at Vandy are smart. Then why do you hire what you just fired? Defensive coach with superior talent who won't have that talent advantage at Vandy. These supposed geniuses that have all the answers in administrations that make these hires don't have any more of a clue than anybody off the street.

 

[tarheel0910]

Don't understand this hire. Supposedly, folks at Vandy are smart. Then why do you hire what you just fired? Defensive coach with superior talent who won't have that talent advantage at Vandy. These supposed geniuses that have all the answers in administrations that make these hires don't have any more of a clue than anybody off the street.

What were the other realistic options though? It's Vandy. That isn't exactly a hot spot that's going to attract big name coaches.

 

[midline]

What were the other realistic options though? It's Vandy. That isn't exactly a hot spot that's going to attract big name coaches.

Got to do something different at Vandy. Maybe bring in the guy from Army to run the triple option. Tough to prepare for in a week. Shortens the game. Mason was a good coach. I figure the guy from ND is as well. But just like when Mason left Stanford for Vandy, all those supposed genius defensive schemes don't work as well when you don't have talent. So basically, Vandy hired what they just fired.

 

[WoadBlue]

Don't understand this hire. Supposedly, folks at Vandy are smart. Then why do you hire what you just fired? Defensive coach with superior talent who won't have that talent advantage at Vandy. These supposed geniuses that have all the answers in administrations that make these hires don't have any more of a clue than anybody off the street.

I think they hope an alum will be the difference. Mason came from Stanford and did not know SEC football up close. But I'm with you: I'd have focused on somebody who has HC experience showing he can win with less talent than his opponents, preferably a guy from the offense side.

My brother the Vandy guy is disappointed. He wanted Coastal's Jamey Chadwell.

 

[WoadBlue]

What were the other realistic options though? It's Vandy. That isn't exactly a hot spot that's going to attract big name coaches.

True. It takes a Dave Clawson type to win consistently at places like that. And Clawson seems very happy at Wake.

 

[MWHeels]

Illinois hires Brett Bielema to replace Lovie Smith

 

[WoadBlue]

Illinois hires Brett Bielema to replace Lovie Smith

That became a rumor last week. He is from IL, played at Iowa, and did very well at Wisconsin. He might be a guy who can win in only 1 league or region.

 

[MWHeels]

That became a rumor last week. He is from IL, played at Iowa, and did very well at Wisconsin. He might be a guy who can win in only 1 league or region.

I agree that Bielema is better a fit in the Big 10. I think Wisconsin is a better program than Illinois, but I still think he can have success there.

 

[gteeitup]

fedora just got fired

 

[uncboy10]

fedora just got fired

Do we still owe him any money?

 

[gteeitup]

Do we still owe him any money?

lol, i can’t imagine now...wouldn’t it be so unc if so?

 

[WoadBlue]

fedora just got fired

Wow - what a surprise.

 

[WoadBlue]

Orgeron is rebuilding the entire LSU staff. The report is that Ensminger is retiring, and that means a new OC. LSU boosters will prefer someone who is proven to produce a top passing game and has SEC experience.

 

[WoadBlue]

With Pellini out, will Orgeron try to woo Muschamp back to Baton Rouge?

 

[MWHeels]

With Pellini out, will Orgeron try to woo Muschamp back to Baton Rouge?

It would be a good move. He's a better DC than a head coach, and as you said, he's been there before. Plus, he's a good recruiter.

 

[WoadBlue]

It appears that Auburn is going to sign Boise State's Bryan Harsin as HC. Omitting this partial season, as BSU HC Harsin has 5 teams with double digit wins and 1 team with only 9 wins. But he has 0 SEC experience. He does have 2 years as Texas co-OC and 1 year as Arkansas St HC, but the rest of the career is out west.

If Saban keeps winning, can Harsin last as long at Auburn as Malzahn did?

 

[WoadBlue]

It would be a good move. He's a better DC than a head coach, and as you said, he's been there before. Plus, he's a good recruiter.

If Orgeron doesn't get at least 1 Big Name for a coordinator, LSU boosters are going to have knives out.

 

[MWHeels]

Auburn hires Boise State coach Bryan Harsin.

 

[tarheel0910]

lol, i can’t imagine now...wouldn’t it be so unc if so?

Fed, just like every other P5 head coach, had a huge buyout. Unless baylor paid him over $10 million, we still owe him.

 

[MWHeels]

I'm a little surprised Fedora is gone after one season. Normally new assistants get a little more time. Was their offense bad? I didn't really watch a lot of Baylor games this year.

 

[gteeitup]

It would be a good move. He's a better DC than a head coach, and as you said, he's been there before. Plus, he's a good recruiter.

talk about falling into a good situation, wow...i wouldn’t think twice about it.

 

[gteeitup]

I'm a little surprised Fedora is gone after one season. Normally new assistants get a little more time. Was their offense bad? I didn't really watch a lot of Baylor games this year.

yes, it was bad.

 

[Xlance]

Vanderbilt hires alum Clark Lea, the ND DC who stuffed the UNC run game that made Miami look like a weaker 1AA team.

It's a risky move for Lea. He is now at the top of the game as a DC, and he is only 38. The Vandy program is in very bad shape: no depth and totally demoralized. If Lea fails to revive it, he could be stuck with a DC job he doesn't care for. But if he wins at Vandy, he should be set for all kinds of job offers.

The risk is all Vanderbilt's.
Lea will walk away with millions whether he is successful or not. If he fails, everyone will just say that nobody can win at Vanderbilt without cheating, they won't blame Lea, and he will walk away with millions.

 

[Xlance]

I'm a little surprised Fedora is gone after one season. Normally new assistants get a little more time. Was their offense bad? I didn't really watch a lot of Baylor games this year.

Larry had little incentive to work, much less put the time in to be successful.

 

[WoadBlue]

yes, it was bad.

yes it was.

The Passing Game Coordinator was also fired. He came from LSU with Aranda and was not ready. He and Fedora also had very different visions, and Fedora sees 'his' offense religiously: it is his. So there was major clash that meant nothing was done consistently with clear goals and everybody on the same page.

Fedora strongly prefers a spread with lots of QB running and the QB as the star, the QB as the playmaker. WR coach Munoz was expected by Baylor boosters to be implementing an offense like the one Joe Brady ran at LSU, in which the QB gets the ball to playmakers primarily by passing.

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