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Just for Fun: Can Anyone Beat the "Phil Ford Team"?

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Here are the rules:

1. Pick 1 Carolina player.
2. Anyone he played with at UNC is eligible to be on "his team."
3. Build a team of up to 10 players.

So . . . your team could include some players who didn't play with each other, but they all played with the central character you pick. For example, on my Phil Ford team, Kupchak and O'Koren never played together.

So here's my Phil Ford team:

Phil Ford
Walter Davis
Mike O'Koren
Mitch Kupchak
Tommy LaGarde
Al Wood
John Kuester
Dudley Bradley
Joe Wolf

My next "obvious" player to choose would have been Hansbrough. I thought I'd leave that fun exercise to someone else.

Here's a good website to remind yourself of who played when and their stats. It's kind of rough to use for the early years, but still pretty good.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina/

Complication #1: Before the 1972-3 season, freshmen didn't play with the varsity squad. Which makes it a little tougher to form teams around guys like Cunningham, Lewis or Miller. But you could still do well, I think, because you would be starting with those stars. If you pick Miller, you not only get Cunningham and Lewis, but you get Charlie Scott, Rusty Clark, Dick Grubar, Eddie Fogler and Bill Bunting.

Complication #2: There was no shot clock until 1985-6, when a 45-second clock was introduced. Reduced to 35 seconds in 1993-4, and now 30 seconds.

Complication #3: The 3-point shot became official across NCAA basketball in 1987 after 5 years of experimentation at the conference level.
 
Dante Calabria

Eric Montross
Rasheed Wallace
Jerry Stackhouse
Donald Williams
Derrick Phelps
George Lynch
Vince Carter
Antawn Jamison
Jeff McInnis
Dante Calabria
 
Looks like two teams that should win it all...dang injuries...I still remember Leon Douglas handling Mitch with ease...
 
That Calabria team is pretty sick, with Sheed, Stack, Vince, and Antawn on the same team, and Montross to boot. But I'll throw out this mid '00s lineup based on Wes Miller that will run anybody out of the gym.

Starting:
Ty Lawson
Rashad McCants
Danny Green
Marvin Williams
Tyler Hansbrough

Reserves:
Wayne Ellington
Raymond Felton
Sean May
Wes Miller
Jawad Williams
 
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Reyshawn Terry:

Tyler Hansbrough
Shaun May
Marvin Williams
Brandon Wright
Wayne Ellington
Ray Felton
Ty Lawson
Danny Green
Rey Terry
Rashad McCants (hated typing that but he was a hella college player)
 
That Calabria team is pretty sick, with Sheed, Stack, Vince, and Antawn on the same team, and Montross to boot. But I'll throw out this mid '00s lineup based on Wes Miller that will run anybody out of the gym.

Starting:
Ty Lawson
Rashad McCants
Danny Green
Marvin Williams
Tyler Hansbrough

Reserves:
Wayne Ellington
Raymond Felton
Sean May
Wes Miller
Jawad Williams
Jules, you must have been typing with me!
 
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That Calabria team is pretty sick, with Sheed, Stack, Vince, and Antawn on the same team, and Montross to boot. But I'll throw out this mid '00s lineup based on Wes Miller that will run anybody out of the gym.

Starting:
Ty Lawson
Rashad McCants
Danny Green
Marvin Williams
Tyler Hansbrough

Reserves:
Wayne Ellington
Raymond Felton
Sean May
Wes Miller
Jawad Williams
Another good one.
 
This team based on Kevin Madden may not be quite the caliber of the others, but is still pretty awesome. Then again, maybe it is at their level.

Kenny Smith
Hubert Davis
Rick Fox
JR Reid
Brad Daugherty
King Rice
Kevin Madden
George Lynch
Dave Popson
Joe Wolf

Plus, I had to leave off a handful of really good players. Guys like Pete Chilcutt, Scott Williams (who took a while to get there but did get there), Steve Bucknall, Jeff Lebo (!) and Ranzino Smith. All had good double digit seasons and did other things.
 
Some day we'll have really good computer programs that will be able to "play" those teams against each other. Won't that be fun?

Would you pay to see those games? I would. Maybe not a stupid amount, but something.
 
Here are the rules:

1. Pick 1 Carolina player.
2. Anyone he played with at UNC is eligible to be on "his team."
3. Build a team of up to 10 players.

So . . . your team could include some players who didn't play with each other, but they all played with the central character you pick. For example, on my Phil Ford team, Kupchak and O'Koren never played together.

So here's my Phil Ford team:

Phil Ford
Walter Davis
Mike O'Koren
Mitch Kupchak
Tommy LaGarde
Al Wood
John Kuester
Dudley Bradley
Joe Wolf

My next "obvious" player to choose would have been Hansbrough. I thought I'd leave that fun exercise to someone else.

Here's a good website to remind yourself of who played when and their stats. It's kind of rough to use for the early years, but still pretty good.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina/

Complication #1: Before the 1972-3 season, freshmen didn't play with the varsity squad. Which makes it a little tougher to form teams around guys like Cunningham, Lewis or Miller. But you could still do well, I think, because you would be starting with those stars. If you pick Miller, you not only get Cunningham and Lewis, but you get Charlie Scott, Rusty Clark, Dick Grubar, Eddie Fogler and Bill Bunting.

Complication #2: There was no shot clock until 1985-6, when a 45-second clock was introduced. Reduced to 35 seconds in 1993-4, and now 30 seconds.

Complication #3: The 3-point shot became official across NCAA basketball in 1987 after 5 years of experimentation at the conference level.
You mean Jeff Wolf. the good Wolf (Joe) came later.
But you picked a great and underrated crew and I would put them against ANYBODY. Hell, folks were calling the Ford/Keuster/Davis/O'Koren/LaGarde lineup the "Dream Team" long before the moniker got appropriated by the Olympians. I would also add John "Instant" Virgil to the roster as a bench spark for instant offense.

Now, if you worked it around O'Koren instead of Phil, you'd lose Kupchak but gain James Worthy.for your team.
 
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WOW! UNC can field 4-5 of the greatest teams to ever play ball at any level!
I suspect several schools could come up with good teams. Takes being good over a long stretch of time, so not all schools could compete, but some certainly could.

Someone really needs to develop that software so we can have playoffs.
 
You could also have fun doing this with coaches. The best Dean Smith teams, the best Roy teams, the best K teams, the best Wooden teams....
 
Just to make this exercise more currently interesting:

Stilman White

John Henson
Reggie Bullock
Harrison Barnes
Tyler Zeller
Brice Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Paige
PJ Hairston
Joel Berry
Stilman

Jackson, McAdoo, Hicks, and Tokoto are other options since The Stilman Era covers six years.
 
Just to make this exercise more currently interesting:

Stilman White

John Henson
Reggie Bullock
Harrison Barnes
Tyler Zeller
Brice Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Paige
PJ Hairston
Joel Berry
Stilman

Jackson, McAdoo, Hicks, and Tokoto are other options since The Stilman Era covers six years.
Brilliant! Totally forgot Stillman..... seems like he's been around since short shorts!
 
Just to make this exercise more currently interesting:

Stilman White

John Henson
Reggie Bullock
Harrison Barnes
Tyler Zeller
Brice Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Paige
PJ Hairston
Joel Berry
Stilman

Jackson, McAdoo, Hicks, and Tokoto are other options since The Stilman Era covers six years.
Very clever. Use a 6-year man as your anchor. I'm embarrassed I didn't think of that. But I did use Kevin Madden, who redshirted for a year.
 
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