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Kansas has hardly any depth and size outside of auzibuke..without Preston I think they will struggle some this year
 
At this point I think it's 'Nova followed by everyone else. And we're not too far behind anyone in the "everyone else" group.
 
Gotta agree,with Nova's win over the Zags,they gotta move to No.2 followed by Mich St.
 
I personally think Duke is clearly behind 'Nova at this point, though they are extremely talented.
 
We wont agree often but Nova is better than dook, but their not the only one.
 
NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE has a chance against the Vader team. THEY are so far superior to anyone and with vader at the helm just forget about the rest of the season.

Bags, Mctripper, vader at the helm..... means done deal Natty
 
Resistance is futile! The NCAA will be assimilated by the puke collective!

I say we crown them now and have a tournament for second in March!
 
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I personally think Duke is clearly behind 'Nova at this point, though they are extremely talented.
Michigan State is better then either one. They were my #1 coming in and nothing has happened to change that. Only an unconscious shooting performance by Tripper, and a very bad Zone attack plan by Izzo allowed dook to escape that game.
 
Michigan State is better then either one. They were my #1 coming in and nothing has happened to change that. Only an unconscious shooting performance by Tripper, and a very bad Zone attack plan by Izzo allowed dook to escape that game.

To be fair, Duke only had Bagley for 10 minutes in that game.

MSU is definitely very good. I'd have them #2, then Duke #3.
 
To be fair, Duke only had Bagley for 10 minutes in that game.

MSU is definitely very good. I'd have them #2, then Duke #3.
Put Bridges to work from the Short Corner against dook's pourous zone instead of standing outside and jacking up 3s and none of that rescues them.

And let me edit this to say I'm not banging on Izzo. That was his season opener with no contemporaneous scouting available, and K has traditionally played Man (albeit with more zone recently). In preseason Izzo, like Roy, is gonna concentrate on teaching his guys to do what they do. Now, had their tip-off opponent been say, Syracuse?... then yeah, MSU would've devoted more practice time to Zone-O, but I thoroughly believe dook being exclusively Zone caught MSU relatively unprepared.
 
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1 - duke
2 - Nova
3 - MSU
4 - UNC
5 - Miami

That's how I currently see it. And don't sleep on the Vols. They have a really nice team. I'd be surprised if we went in to Knoxville and won.
 
I love all this Duke praise! 80-0 wow!

For real though, there are about 60 teams right now that could beat Duke on any given night. Going down double digits to multiple unranked teams is a worrisome sign regardless of the outcome. Gonna come down to how much they improve on D by the end of the year. I don't think Duke will lose in Cameron though.
 
I love all this Duke praise! 80-0 wow!

For real though, there are about 60 teams right now that could beat Duke on any given night. Going down double digits to multiple unranked teams is a worrisome sign regardless of the outcome. Gonna come down to how much they improve on D by the end of the year. I don't think Duke will lose in Cameron though.
Yeah, I see what they did there :p...

The bad news is that Bagley and Carter do make dook uncharacteristically formidable up front. Sadly dook wil be a force to be reckoned with. That being said, yes --- they are vulnerable for a variety of reasons and could easily be a top-5 team all season and then a 1st or 2nd weekend NCAA exit candidate.
 
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Yeah, I see what they did there :p...

The bad news is that Bagley and Carter do make dook uncharacteristically formidable up front. Sadly dook wil be a force to be reckoned with. That being said, yes --- they are vulnerable for a variety of reasons and could easily be a top-5 team all season and then a 1st or 2nd weekend NCAA exit candidate.
maybe, normally the Duke teams that go out in the first weekend are seriously flawed and rely on 3 point shooting. When Duke has good big men they seem to do well in the tournament but that being said if they don't fix their defense I agree they could lose in the sweet 16 or elite 8 to a team that can keep up offensively.
 
maybe, normally the Duke teams that go out in the first weekend are seriously flawed and rely on 3 point shooting. When Duke has good big men they seem to do well in the tournament but that being said if they don't fix their defense I agree they could lose in the sweet 16 or elite 8 to a team that can keep up offensively.
Yeah, they are quite the role-reversal of typical dook teams in that they don't live and die by the 3. However, this edition is seriously --- and I mean seriously --- flawed defensively. K is playing so much Zone by necessity because they just can't guard anybody man-up. As you said, if a smaller, quicker team can take advantage and get a lead and force dook to chase, that could become an issue. If so, then they could easily lose a 1 v 8 matchup in the second round, or more likely in the second weekend.
 
Yeah, they are quite the role-reversal of typical dook teams in that they don't live and die by the 3. However, this edition is seriously --- and I mean seriously --- flawed defensively. K is playing so much Zone by necessity because they just can't guard anybody man-up. As you said, if a smaller, quicker team can take advantage and get a lead and force dook to chase, that could become an issue. If so, then they could easily lose a 1 v 8 matchup in the second round, or more likely in the second weekend.
I agree, and I don't want to hijack this thread or anything but... Duke has shown the ability to lock down and play defense (usually in the last 5 minutes) that gives me some hope that they will turn it around. This is my biggest pet peeve about OAD basketball, these freak offensive talents come in with no idea how to play team defense. In the past it wouldn't be an issue because they could learn and after a year or two contribute on both ends of the court but these days they're in their 2nd year of the NBA. This is why I wish the NBA would stop drafting on potential and passing on guys who are ready to contribute right away, Brogdon for example. Sorry got off topic a bit.
 
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I agree, and I don't want to hijack this thread or anything but... Duke has shown the ability to lock down and play defense (usually in the last 5 minutes) that gives me some hope that they will turn it around. This is my biggest pet peeve about OAD basketball, these freak offensive talents come in with no idea how to play team defense. In the past it wouldn't be an issue because they could learn and after a year or two contribute on both ends of the court but these days they're in their 2nd year of the NBA. This is why I wish the NBA would stop drafting on potential and passing on guys who are ready to contribute right away, Brogdon for example. Sorry got off topic a bit.
You won't get any argument from me on OAD basketball, and Brogdon is a great example of what they should be coveting.
 
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