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It looks like we are going to have too many QBs and WRs and not enough players on the DL.

DL must be a bigger recruiting priority. And it must focus on ability to get admitted and probability to stay academically eligible.
 
Did Joel James ever play football? Seems liken he would make one helluva defensive lineman. I know he graduated but wouldn't he have football eligibility left? I'm only partially kidding; we need some help!:confused:
 
Did Joel James ever play football? Seems liken he would make one helluva defensive lineman. I know he graduated but wouldn't he have football eligibility left? I'm only partially kidding; we need some help!:confused:
I've wondered the same thing. He's big, as in football big. With football weight training, he could play at 300 pounds and be agile compared other guys that weight.

He could play 1 year at another sport than the one he played 4 years.
 
I've wondered the same thing. He's big, as in football big. With football weight training, he could play at 300 pounds and be agile compared other guys that weight.

He could play 1 year at another sport than the one he played 4 years.
I know it will never happen, but, with the right coaching, he could possibly be a monster. Oh well...
 
It looks like we are going to have too many QBs and WRs and not enough players on the DL.

DL must be a bigger recruiting priority. And it must focus on ability to get admitted and probability to stay academically eligible.

DT/NT is already one of the most difficult positions to recruit. We're turning away kids that aren't even really borderline admission concerns at other schools.
 
Read on TOS that this isn't a UNC admissions, this is an NCAA problem. He hasn't passed the Clearinghouse, therefore his only options would be Juco, prep school, NAIA or D3. Hopefully, he gets into a good Juco or prep school and ends up at UNC in a year or two.
 
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Read on TOS that this isn't a UNC admissions, this is an NCAA problem. He hasn't passed the Clearinghouse, therefore his only options would be Juco, prep school, NAIA or D3. Hopefully, he gets into a good Juco or prep school and ends up at UNC in a year or two.
Yes. Sorry I neglected to mention that.
 
DT/NT is already one of the most difficult positions to recruit. We're turning away kids that aren't even really borderline admission concerns at other schools.
The Carolinas are known as DL heaven. We had 2 of the best DT's in the nation the last 2 years in NC HS's. We have got to keep some of these guys at home.
 
This has been a concern for months. I'm sure he'll be given an opportunity at either another acc school or an sec school.
Some have speculated that he failed to make the minimum SAT score. If that is the case, he will have to go Prep or Juco.
 
The Carolinas are known as DL heaven. We had 2 of the best DT's in the nation the last 2 years in NC HS's. We have got to keep some of these guys at home.
Correct - assuming they would have gotten admitted. I assume both Tuttle and Lawrence would have. But I don't know.

But I think there are 2 pertinent facts: we have major trouble with top NC DTs, and admissions is now at least a bit rougher than it was before Marvin Austin and John Blake.

That 2+2 equals a need to focus far and wide and early on DTs. And it may mean seeing the potential of some guys on the OL switching to DT.
 
Read on TOS that this isn't a UNC admissions, this is an NCAA problem. He hasn't passed the Clearinghouse, therefore his only options would be Juco, prep school, NAIA or D3. Hopefully, he gets into a good Juco or prep school and ends up at UNC in a year or two.
Makes me feel a bit better.
 
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if it is only SAT, I feel a tad better that he could wind up here. Kevin Reddick didn't quality initially, but went via hargrave.

Regardless I don't have high hopes that he'll ever make it. So I say we need to prioritize a new big-guy now.
 
i'd heard , prior to this campbell stuff, that the staff was okay with only taking Jordan Riley as the sole DT in this class unless some superstar fell into our lap.
 
i'd heard , prior to this campbell stuff, that the staff was okay with only taking Jordan Riley as the sole DT in this class unless some superstar fell into our lap.
Well then the staff isn't as smart as I gave them credit for. OR they really trust in the guys they have currently.
 
Need to broaden the search and develop new ways to get guys on the DL to come aboard.
i agree. also, i think fedora needs a new message. he's given the impression that as long as our offense is high powered and scores a lot of points defense is an afterthought. that message works recruiting kids on offense, but to reach the next level our program needs a strong defense -- i.e. a more balanced image or message.
 
i'd heard , prior to this campbell stuff, that the staff was okay with only taking Jordan Riley as the sole DT in this class unless some superstar fell into our lap.
We don't seem to have any DT's on the recruiting board. Lots of OL , DB's and LB's though and more RB's than you'd expect.
 
i agree. also, i think fedora needs a new message. he's given the impression that as long as our offense is high powered and scores a lot of points defense is an afterthought. that message works recruiting kids on offense, but to reach the next level our program needs a strong defense -- i.e. a more balanced image or message.
The message isn't the problem, IMO. Who's delivering the message is the problem. And by the "who" I don't mean Fedora. I mean UNC. Elite DLmen want to go to a handful of places.
 
The message isn't the problem, IMO. Who's delivering the message is the problem. And by the "who" I don't mean Fedora. I mean UNC. Elite DLmen want to go to a handful of places.
so how do you explain our excellent success recruiting offensive players but not defensive?
 
The message isn't the problem, IMO. Who's delivering the message is the problem. And by the "who" I don't mean Fedora. I mean UNC. Elite DLmen want to go to a handful of places.

To an extent, I am not sure the staff is pointing success along the Dline and who UNC have placed in the pros. Are they conveying that Super Bowl champ Sly Williams is a UNC grad, Peppers, Ellis, Sims, etc. Somewhere that success has been lost.
 
To an extent, I am not sure the staff is pointing success along the Dline and who UNC have placed in the pros. Are they conveying that Super Bowl champ Sly Williams is a UNC grad, Peppers, Ellis, Sims, etc. Somewhere that success has been lost.
They'd be idiots of the highest order if they weren't conveying that, but.........no current recruit cares about Ellis, Sims, etc. Those guys played at Carolina before current recruits were born. Peppers played at Carolina when current recruits were like 3.

Carolina has had woeful DLines for the past four seasons and the elite DL they did have (Austin, Quinn) are excommunicated from the program. Carolina has lost its way along the DL and you can trace it back to the end of the Butch regime where we swung and missed on elite recruits, and then you had the Withers debacle. It's a snowball that we can't stop and I don't see an end in sight. N.C. produces elite DLmen yet we can't get them because they either don't want to come here or won't qualify.
 
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Go LA Rams! They start Robert Quinn and just signed Quinton Coples and Cam Thomas :)
 
To an extent, I am not sure the staff is pointing success along the Dline and who UNC have placed in the pros. Are they conveying that Super Bowl champ Sly Williams is a UNC grad, Peppers, Ellis, Sims, etc. Somewhere that success has been lost.
Maybe you're right though. Maybe the message is stale. Something needs to change I know that!
 
I have to assume that the staff has known for a while that Campbell was on shaky ground , yet they seem pretty content with just Riley in this year's class.
 
I have to assume that the staff has known for a while that Campbell was on shaky ground , yet they seem pretty content with just Riley in this year's class.

So you are seeing signs that we aren't suddenly hunting for other DTs very hard?
 
So you are seeing signs that we aren't suddenly hunting for other DTs very hard?
I am not seeing those signs, no. Another problem is DL is usually one of the thinnest position groups in each recruiting cycle, in terms of elite (could start on a Top 25 team) quality.
 
So you are seeing signs that we aren't suddenly hunting for other DTs very hard?
I am not really seeing anything , but I don't see many DT's on our recruiting board and I had read somewhere that the staff was fairly content with just Riley before the Campbell issue(your earlier post). I would assume the staff had to know Campbell might not make it when they signed him if it was the SAT I am fishing for info more than anything else.
 
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Some have speculated that he failed to make the minimum SAT score. If that is the case, he will have to go Prep or Juco.

I'm interested to see how this turns out. The timing or something just seems off. I was under the impression he could've taken the SAT again after he graduated, but I think it depends on when he submitted/signed some of the paperwork for the NCAA. And I knew that clearing admissions was a concern, but had no idea he was in danger of not being eligible.
 
Have we just said no more kids from Hargrave or other prep schools....Hoping the big guy ends up here...
 
Former Heel's target and FSU signee , Keion Joyner to attend Ft. Scott Community College.
 
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