Leaky… Warriors
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For Leaky's sake, do you think he'll get meaningful minutes with them? That's quite a large sell. Draymond Green will be a free agent so a lot will depend on if Golden State brings him back. Andrew Wiggins is under contract until 25-26. Gary Payton II is under contract through next year. Jonathan Kuminga and Patrick Baldwin are still on their rookie contracts. That's a lot of defense-centric wings (Green, Wiggins, Kuminga).
In terms of playing time, if Draymond Green re-signs there, I don't see Leaky ever playing with the players in front of him. Unless Golden State makes a big trade, there are just better players in front of him.
Sacramento is probably a better fit. They desperately need a wing and perimeter defender and probably need cheaper options on the wing than Harrison Barnes. Things are about to get expensive there. Sabonis and Malik Monk are both free agents after next year and both will get major pay bumps.
*Correction, Draymond Green has a player option for next season.
The question is whether he can reliably lock down NBA players.
If he can, I imagine a number of teams would be happy to have him. Sure, he might not get a lot of PT, but the few minutes he gets could win games for you.
Obviously an asset at the end of games when you have a slight lead. Or when the opponent has one standout scorer where Leaky's lack of offensive production would be more than outweighed by stifling that player.
If he can, I imagine a number of teams would be happy to have him. Sure, he might not get a lot of PT, but the few minutes he gets could win games for you.
Obviously an asset at the end of games when you have a slight lead. Or when the opponent has one standout scorer where Leaky's lack of offensive production would be more than outweighed by stifling that player.
As I stated, I think he fits an NBA team as an “as needed in this series against this player” defender. I think the Warriors make sense in that roll. That’s my entire take…
+ skill, work ethic, attitude, length, and team first so....I'm saying there is a shot! GS would be great but any team might take a flyer on him as a 2-way and see what happens! I'm guessing undrafted, but invited to join as a free agent. Starts in the G and possibly gets called up or shipped overseas!
His best year was this past season and even that wasn't much to brag about.
Quinn Cook was better, which says Roach isn't an NBA guard.
Not to be unkind but I think Roach is a known quantity. He's good, but not NBA good, and there's nothing the pros need to learn about him.
Which is not to say that he will never play a minute in the NBA. Some team might find him a good fit on their bench. But I think they already know all they need to know about Roach.
Leaky is different. There are a few questions about him that might be answered in the combine which, if answered in the right way, could open the door to playing in the NBA.
Can he lock down NBA caliber players?
Can he become a enough of a shooting threat?
Can his motor rev higher?
The Duke board is interesting on Roach. Some want him back. Some hope he leaves. They have 2 high-ranked combo guards and the "leave" group wants to see one of them step into Roach's starting slot (probably at SG with Proctor handling point).
Like us, some Duke fans think they need to add a center. Others feel like Young, Stewart or Reeves can handle it.
Like us, some Duke fans think they need to add a center. Others feel like Young, Stewart or Reeves can handle it.
Yes , yes, and nothing wrong with his motor. Not all motors run the same rpm’s.
I hope you're right. I don't watch much NBA, but it would be fun to see him there.
Jmo of course but the nba I so situational I think he could find a fit for a small role and make plenty of money.
Agreed, I was surprised Roach did not get an invite. He is the type I think they would like to test out to evaluate for that type of development/ role.
Leaky is certainly a guy that will get a look, as I have said all along. G league development is the probable course, which is not a bad thing, they do great work there. Every team has solid contributors to all star level G leaguers now on roster.
Roach is 21 and won’t be 22 until November.
Leaky is 23 and will turn 24 in a month.
How the hell is Leaky a less known prospect with more mystery than Roach? If you play the “can he” game with Leaky, then you absolutely have to play it with Roach since he’s 2.5 years younger.
Jeremy Roach’s good is not even on the same planet as Leaky’s. Leaky’s good has always been a good situational role player. Roach’s good has been an all conference level guard.
Roach is the superior prospect. He’s at a disadvantage though because good lead guards are a dime a dozen in the NBA. There are fewer elite wing defenders so maybe that gives Leaky a shot.
Don’t understand the unknown in Leaky’s game. Will he be able to shoot it enough in the NBA? Probably not. He wasn’t able to shoot it enough in 5 years in college against worse players and less sophisticated defensive schemes.
Leaky is 23 and will turn 24 in a month.
How the hell is Leaky a less known prospect with more mystery than Roach? If you play the “can he” game with Leaky, then you absolutely have to play it with Roach since he’s 2.5 years younger.
Jeremy Roach’s good is not even on the same planet as Leaky’s. Leaky’s good has always been a good situational role player. Roach’s good has been an all conference level guard.
Roach is the superior prospect. He’s at a disadvantage though because good lead guards are a dime a dozen in the NBA. There are fewer elite wing defenders so maybe that gives Leaky a shot.
Don’t understand the unknown in Leaky’s game. Will he be able to shoot it enough in the NBA? Probably not. He wasn’t able to shoot it enough in 5 years in college against worse players and less sophisticated defensive schemes.
Little off subject, but Brady Manek could make the GS Warriors dominate! Watching there series, and all I can think is if they had Manek they would be unstoppable!
Back to subject, I think Leaky has the motor, and I think he can be as good of a defender as Reggie Bullock. I think he can start the break, and finish. Leaky ever developing a shot is a long shot, I remember his high school numbers where low, but he filled up the stat sheets.
Back to subject, I think Leaky has the motor, and I think he can be as good of a defender as Reggie Bullock. I think he can start the break, and finish. Leaky ever developing a shot is a long shot, I remember his high school numbers where low, but he filled up the stat sheets.
Manek, needed on Golden State? They lack a shooter? He is not known for physicality, sub par defender on the block and a liability in space, not known for dirty work setting picks, or being an assist man with plus passing skills. All the things Draymond does in spades for them, but Green cannot shoot, the Warriors have plenty of those though. I think Manek would be a terrible fit for Golden State.
Any team can have him as there were no takers. If he can find a place where he could be a off the bench 3 shooting big in spurts, he may have a chance to latch on somewhere, maybe, but the Warriors and their roster does not seem like a fit at all to me.
While I agree I’d definitely like to see him playing rather than draymond. Or at least to listen to. Lol
GS needs versatile size. They have already given into the fact they can't handle any bigs worth anything. My thoughts is Brady is still close to seven feet, and really with Draymond, Klay, and Wiggins they are doing the real defensive work, but they can't be seven foot. Offensively Curry will have now four other offensive options when he drives.
OK, you are the first that I have heard to describe Manek as versatile size. I think that is what is keeping him overseas, one NBA level skill, subpar in all other areas for the pro game.
I think the role Jared Vanderbilt is playing for the Lakers is the possible goal for teams looking at Leaky.
that's the gist of it....roach/proctor/mccain /foster...looks to be a great foursome, though that would stall out Schutt...no roach more of the other three and schutt gets his turn......i feel like flip/reeves/young/stewart is sufficient unless you can find that elite'ish rebounder/rim protector, if not, id say give reeves the opportunity
Would be the ideal comparison. Vanderbilt was able to develop into his niche role over his first 5 seasons or so. It didn't happen right away.
Vanderbilt is also only 2 months older than Leaky right now.
I would love to see Manek on the Lakers! They could absolutely use a situational shooter and they have the D on lock! I agree that Leaky is a better pro prospect than Roach because size matters and he has the + skill! (also because I find going opposite SDung usually is a good bet!) Both would need to find the perfect team and neither is a slam dunk!
I agree with most of that except the passing. He was asked to shoot and spread the floor, which he did quite nicely. But when he did pass, I thought he was quite good. Crisp and accurate. It just didn't happen that often.
I don't think he is a poor passer, he can move the ball solid enough, just not one that looks to pass often and not a creator with the pass type much at all.
I dislike Dray, and I'm rooting for Brady. But as a fit in G State as was stated, I see Brady's NBA skill strength as being redundant on that roster, while addressing their weak areas, well he is even weaker at those.
As for the Lakers fit, he would have to aspire to be a Rui type player offensively, and he's a good bit away from that. Lakers are stout defenders as a team as well, I think that aspect alone would cause them to hang out the not interested sign.
Only takes one to fit though, I hope he keeps working on it, and latches on somewhere. He fits the overseas type well, I believe he will be earning from playing ball for a good while though in any event.
Add .25. Lol and I did find it interesting that he recorded the second largest hand size
Sounds like it might have been one of those in shoes/ out of shoes situations. Or maybe our tape measure was a little off.
Clearly Leaky deserves a special award: "Top Defender in 3" Heels."
There's probably a law against that in Florida.
6'6 makes him a totally different developmental prospect. Sheesh, I know it's fudged on rosters, but 6'9 when actually 6'6 is a lot! He's actually an undersized long armed non shooter for NBA execs to consider.
