losing best passer and rusher
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oops, i guess the tweet it gone? PFF said Sam is best rushing QB in the nation, Louisville's qb second.
It isn't the RBs i'm concerned with, Sam might actually have been our best ground weapon. Without his legs we might've only won 3 games.
Due to the fact we didn't have weapons around him. That will change next year with Greene, Nesbit, Hampton, Pettaway, Edmonds, Hood, Downs and hopefully Paysour and Blackwell after a year in the system. We weren't prepared to lose those 4 offensive guys last year and it showed this year.
Unless you are running a Wishbone or Single Wing, the QB running a large number of times is a sign of weakness in the offense. That was true even for the Veer. If the Veer QB ran a lot, it meant either that he failed to read the D correctly and kept the ball, or else that his offense had such poor weapons that the QB was forced to keep the ball.
BYU's Taysom Hill may have been the most devastating running QB I've ever seen, and his BYU teams are a great example. The WRs were weak, the RBs were weaker than the WRs, Hill was at best an average passer, and BYU had no other QB ready to sling in standard BYU mode. Hill was the offense.
Regarding him having to run so much, I blame the OL or play-calling before blaming the skills positions.
Josh Downs is 1st team All-ACC
Chandler was 2nd team All-ACC
Both healthy all year.
The other guys weren't great options (though Greene and the TE were more productive in the latter half of the year). But i'm not sure if one more solid WR would've made much of a difference.
It shouldn't require 3 All-ACC guys to keep your QB from having to be a major running weapon in order to win games.
Mixture of a lot of things, but the lack of weapons outside was pretty evident if you watched the games. Simmons and Brown contributed nothing prior to them transferring. Those two were poised to have breakout seasons in addition to Green. Sam would drop back, if #11 was covered his first instinct is to run. Most of the time he doesn't look at the 2nd/3rd progressions. No one is denying the stats by Downs and Chandler but you need more options on O if you want to be an elite program. Our #1 receiver has 98 receptions, #2 has 27. Simmons and Brown had 12 receptions combined prior to them transferring. Green has had 2 receptions over the past 2 games.....two for your #2 receiver. The influx in talent coming in at the skill positions will help cover up those issues at OL, like it did last year.
Problem is how complicated Longo keeps things as he seems to make it be rocket science keeping the younger guys on the bench. Hell Chandler had 4 years of major college experience and it seemed to take him awhile to get comfortable which screwed us and Longo hardly used him catching the ball and he was probably our 2nd best receiver
Longo has bragged about how simple his offense is. Players not understanding it isn't the issue. Unless we somehow find the dumbest football players in the nation.
Brooks is returning to UNC next year, that is interesting. I expect a RB to transfer. Can't imagine Edmonds/Jones is thrilled to hear that news. Brooks ran with some passion the last few weeks and could be a valuable piece next year whole Pettaway/Hampton learn the ropes.
But he does make it complicated for the players as none of our young talented guys have played early under him. Downs didn't suddenly figure out how to run routes and catch the ball his 2nd year. Watch Jones and Nesbit suddenly "figure" things out next year and have big years.
Yep. Which is why I never bought into the "you practice how you play" stuff. You won't know what the kid can do unless you put him in the game.
Players have to adjust to talent and size of college players so Bateman and Longo need to make things more straight forward so they can play confidently and utilize their talent
The young guys don't play because the coaches won't let them. It has nothing to do with it being complicated. For whatever reason, the coaches prefer upperclassmen. That's fine when the upperclassmen are better. That's not the case right now.
That’s a pretty bold proclamation considering we are losing the best QB in our program’s history
No. It’s a very simple offense and defenses know what’s coming pretty much every time. We lost some guys that could get past you even when you knew the play. Longo’s system only works when he has superior athletes.
Offense is loaded with talent at every position, don't see it as bold at all, just facts. Wait and see.
Maybe so but that makes it even worse because then we're choosing not to play our best players for whatever ****ing stupid reason. If it's so easy then why do no young guys play and a 4 year player we were told had to have time to adjust after getting here in January. Something isn't adding up.
"And the reason was it made sense to me, I knew that I could do it as a player, I knew it would help players play because it was simple"
"I always leave there and am reminded that the simplicity is really the genius of the whole thing"
"The philosophy is to stay simple"
https://northcarolina.rivals.com/news/longo-explains-air-raid
"I always leave there and am reminded that the simplicity is really the genius of the whole thing"
"The philosophy is to stay simple"
https://northcarolina.rivals.com/news/longo-explains-air-raid
So then it seems our coaches are just idiots and choosing not to play our FR or we have extremely dumb players that can't learn a simple system which obviously isn't true. It appears we have no sense of urgency from our coaches and hence our players don't either.
If I had to guess, with absolutely no inside info, I would say that Mack prefers not to play freshman at first. Since it's on both sides of the ball, that makes it seem like a head coach decision and not a coordinator decision. That's fine if you are Clemson and have 5* upperclassmen, but we aren't them.
This is somewhat a Mack philosophy but I think it’s a philosophy when you’re rebuilding as well. It’s kore important to bring the young guys along slowly both in the film room and on the field. Coaches can only coach so much. It gets easier when the upperclassman have been in the system a long time and fully understand it. I think when we start to have more upperclassmen depth we will have the luxury to sprinkle in more young guys.
I can agree with that philosophy as long as the upperclassmen are decent, but a lot of our upperclassmen kind of suck. If the younger guys are as good as advertised, which the ones that played seem to be pretty good, then go ahead and play them. We can do the slow thing once we have the depth. Maybe it's just me being impatient, but I get tired of hearing about how great our recruiting is and then having average, at best, seasons.
So our coaches have decided to get potentially just 2 years put of their top recruits if they play up to their hype. Downs is most likely gone after next year so we chose to waste his 1st year. We were pretty darn good on offense that year but imagine him as 3rd receiver with Dyami and Dazz. We may very well never get to that deep depth because of transfer portal and guys leaving early to NFL so we're in trouble if Mack's philosophy of not playing young guys continues.
There is a giant contradiction there: We live by recruiting, because the top Jimmys and Joes are far more important than Xs and Os, but at the same time we demand the right to keep redshirting those top recruits because they are not ready and also we demand that you stop judging us until all those top recruits are 5th Srs and 4th year Jrs.
That contradiction allows for excuses year after year.
I think the staff is just waiting to put them out there as long as possible to give them cover
that's a very old school way of thinking about things. with the transfer portal if you sit a talented freshman/sophomore behind a junior/senior who isn't as good then you're losing that kid to another team.
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