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Mark Cuban rips CB in USA Today

HeelFan58

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says it's not preparing players for NBA and is terrible to watch. Says college officials couldn't manage a White Castle. He makes some good points.
 
Regardless when he said it the one and done stuff is making the college game a joke and alot of players find out quickly at the next level that flawed play due to the lack of basic fundamentals makes for a short career. Hoping that for the one year they were in school that they polished their foreign language skills because most of them will need it..
 
For a guy who never played he surprisingly always hits the nail on the head when it comes to stuff like this
 
Well Mark, get with all your buds and quit drafting on "potential" alone!

Baseball rule would be grand Mark, take a look at it.
 
I don't take or read USA today , so not sure why it mattered if it was 3-4 days ago or 3-4 weeks ago. It is relevant when a guy with the basketball acumen of Cuban comments on the state of CB especially when most all of us see the direction it is heading. I also guess when colleges aren't developing guys for the NBA game then one of the few measures they have left is drafting on potential.
 
Originally posted by HeelFan58:
says it's not preparing players for NBA and is terrible to watch. Says college officials couldn't manage a White Castle. He makes some good points.
Yeah mark and college isn't preparing the kids to play in the freakin NBA because of IDIOT OWNERS like you and the GMs you hire draft them after a single season in the college game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't freakin draft kids that early and the college coaching will then have the time it takes to develope those kids and you will get NBA ready players in your draft. But as long as IDIOTS LIKE YOU insist on drafting them after a single season in college and you would draft them straight out of high school if you could, then shut up and look in the freakin mirror to really find where the problem is.... Don't blame the kids and don't blame the college programs, you created this nonsense and you can stop it simply by not drafting kids so young. ACCEPT YOUR OWN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY MARK CUBAN OR SHUT UP BECAUSE THE BLAME LAYS WITH YOU AND EVERY OTHER nba OWNER OUT THERE....
 
Originally posted by ethanga62890:
He didn't make that much money being stupid.
Yep and he didn't make that much money being as stpid in his other business as he is with his NBA business either...Same applies to EVERY other NBA owner as well, they are absoloutly IDIOTS when it comes to the NBA decision making and the solution is so easy, just roll back the clock to a time where the NBA only drafted kids mostly after 4yrs in college and it was extremely rare that they were drafted after only 3 yrs in the college game. But NO, these IDIOT NBA owners want a great cake but they are only willing to allow it to bake 5mins?
 
Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
Well Mark, get with all your buds and quit drafting on "potential" alone!

Baseball rule would be grand Mark, take a look at it.
That is the only answer that can work. The NBA drafts on 'potential' and wastes fortunes. The higfh school players see those fortunes and want them ASAP, and so they do not work on mastering fundamentally sound team basketball.

The only way for the vicious cycle to close is to require 3 years in college once you sign.

Guys who do not want to go to college for 3 years are free to go overseas.
 
Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
Well Mark, get with all your buds and quit drafting on "potential" alone!

Baseball rule would be grand Mark, take a look at it.
Very good point.
 
Its not all college, its high school and AAU as well. How can a coach teach a player a game in one year? Plus, you have these scum coaches like calipari just trying to win it all and not coach his kids. Then you have guys like K who teach them how to flop in order to win. Coaches are no longer coaches due to all the money. It is all about winning, not developing players.
 
Originally posted by RHFD:
Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
Well Mark, get with all your buds and quit drafting on "potential" alone!

Baseball rule would be grand Mark, take a look at it.
Bingo!!

This post was edited on 4/12 8:45 AM by bleeduncblue
 
Follow up article in the N&O (I know , I know I only get the Sunday paper) by Brian Schmitz of The Orlando Sentinel who basically agrees with Cuban but says college basketball doesn't exist to be the NBA's farm system. He does have major issues with the 35 second shot clock (should be 24.) . Foul lanes , physicality of games and also grand standing coaches (cough , cough K) and 3 point line needs to be moved back to open things up..
 
Originally posted by HeelFan58:
Follow up article in the N&O (I know , I know I only get the Sunday paper) by Brian Schmitz of The Orlando Sentinel who basically agrees with Cuban but says college basketball doesn't exist to be the NBA's farm system. He does have major issues with the 35 second shot clock (should be 24.) . Foul lanes , physicality of games and also grand standing coaches (cough , cough K) and 3 point line needs to be moved back to open things up..
Well of course the college game is the feeder system for the nba, those goof balls in the NBA got to where they are today because from its inception to just a few years ago, the college game developed those raw talents and after 4yrs of developing them they were able to enter the NBA as much more ready to play at that level. It not only was a farm system for the NBA, it was TOTALLY FREE ! It was idiot NBA team owners and the GMs they hired that for some strange reason felt they could not allow great talents to not to benifit anything but the NBA even before that talent was ready.

No on the 24sec clock, not just a bad idea, OK to no less than 30 and frankly, how is a 35 sec clock a thing that hurts the game? Is the college game so flawed in aspects like shot clock that it demands to be fixed or lose followers? The dumbing down of the game with so many moving out of the game before they should is a real problem for the college game but that is controlled by the NBA and their draft on potential and not draft on readiness to play at that level now. Yeah, 3 in college sure hurt Jordan, ask him how much it hurt him, sure hurt Tim Duncan those 4yrs in the college game...

I love the grand standing coaches comment to, yeah, don't let the coaches grandstand, leave that for the individual players in this thing that used to be a team sport. fr4ankly, I like the game being a bit more physical, I just wish the refs inthe college game would be copnsistent in how they call things, they are not and that is actually a major problem. I do think the 3pt shot should be moved back, I think it should be a very hard shot rather than an average jump shot range.
 
Originally posted by WoadBlue:

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
Well Mark, get with all your buds and quit drafting on "potential" alone!

Baseball rule would be grand Mark, take a look at it.
That is the only answer that can work. The NBA drafts on 'potential' and wastes fortunes. The higfh school players see those fortunes and want them ASAP, and so they do not work on mastering fundamentally sound team basketball.

The only way for the vicious cycle to close is to require 3 years in college once you sign.

Guys who do not want to go to college for 3 years are free to go overseas.
Maybe, Cuban is just sick and tired of that NBA team down the interstate a few miles who also pass the ball 3 or 4 times before settling for a high percentage shot.....Boring maybe to Cuban, but a team that has brought a lot of NBA Hardware to San Antonio since Pop and Duncan arrived, and are recognized as a team that plays the game the way it should be played.....I'm sure that Cuban wants Pop to change his style too, so the Mavs will have a chance in the future.....

I do however agree that the College game has steadily gone downhill ever since the Shotclock and the Three Point Shot were adotped by the College teams, and also agree that Player development has also taken a back seat in terms of producing fundamentally sound High School prospects....AAU is bigger than ever, and most of those teams are about the individuals, and the offensive skills that they themselves can promote to prospective College Coaches who may be recruiting them.....Also agree that the College Baseball model where a kid coming out of High School can elect to go to College for 3 years, or can choose the Major League Draft, is the best overall model for the High School Athelete, but the NBA Player's Assiocation(sp?) is not going to go for the Baseball Model, and likely never will, so the drafting based on "Potential" will continue, and I'm sure that Cuban will draft based on "Potential" as he always has done in the past....

Still remember Carolina Big Men back in the day going to California during the summer to train at the Pete Newell Big Man fundamentals' camp.....Don't know if it even exist anymore?

Read an article the other day about the Jacksonville team with Artis Gilmore who lost to UCLA in the final.....Hard to believe the offensive scoring that happened during that tourney....Long before the Shot Clock and 3pt Shot..... Most if not all of the teams in Jacksonville's Regional that year, scored in the 90's during the tourney, which was a far cry from the scoring we seen in this year's tournament or any recent tournaments for that matter....

I'm just not sold on the idea that fewer seconds on the shot clock will make a big difference since teams are already struggling to score points....Less time would generally mean worse decision-making, resulting in poor shot selection and possibilly even lower shooting percentages than we are already seeing?.....Guess we'll start getting some answers this coming fall when the shot clock is reduced from 35 to 30 seconds....?

Agree that something needs to be done, but believe that it's a much bigger problem than a couple of rule changes, will rectify.....
 
I would say that a team that can pull off 3-4 passes with a 24 second shot clock is pretty exciting. 35 seconds is too long!
 
Originally posted by HeelFan58:

I would say that a team that can pull off 3-4 passes with a 24 second shot clock is pretty exciting. 35 seconds is too long!
True, but the Spurs players know the offense as well as POP does, and a lot of those guys have been in the NBA for a long time and on the same team, no less.....College teams with a bunch of freshman and underclassman are generally learning a College Coach's offense in only 1 or 2 seasons nowadays and with less time for that offense with inexperience players to run it, is a recipe for disaster....Big difference between a bunch of NBA Men running their offense in 24 seconds, than there is for a kid fresh out of high school who has never played a game with a shot clock before arriving on a college campus?.....Know that the NIT tourney seemed to indicate better results according to some, but still wary that less time to make a decision will be the right move until the High School level adopts the same model?
 
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