I really didn't follow his recruitment, but can anyone confirm that he said something along the lines that we don't develop bigs here?
Thanks in advance
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MBolden?
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It's hilarious to read some of the takes on Bolden over at DI. He's slow, has bad hands, can't play for more than 3 minutes without getting tired, etc... This guy was a top ten recruit, pretty much considered a OAD coming out of high school. H, DeLaurier, and Jeter can't get off the pine. Even dook fans are complaining that the LOM won't play his bench, which was supposed to be the deepest in the conference this year. Poor coaching job by K.
And yes, they had injury issues early. But they are healthy now so there's no excuse to be living and dying by the three once again. Jefferson(starter), Giles(starter), and Bolden got a combined 10 shots against Miami. They go 5 of 21 from long distance and there you go.
And yes, they had injury issues early. But they are healthy now so there's no excuse to be living and dying by the three once again. Jefferson(starter), Giles(starter), and Bolden got a combined 10 shots against Miami. They go 5 of 21 from long distance and there you go.
The most overhyped coach in sports history!
And I wont shed a tear for kids like Bolden, Jeter, etc who buy that crap Kay/UNcapable is selling. Not one tear!
Trying to be objective when looking at Duke's season (very tough)...but, this has been a very poor job by K this season. You can't have this much talent and struggle this badly. For a guy who is supposed to be one of the best at getting talent to gel together, he's done zero of that this season.
It does my heart good to see them letting their big men largely languish on the pine. One would think that would discourage big men from flocking there.
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Yet they continue hauling in 5 star bigs like cattle. That takes dirty recruiting and lies.
It wont end pretty for that sanctimonius prick.
Agreed. How does this season not deter some OADs from considering them? Everyone has been a disappointment, even Tatum to some degree. Knox, Duval, and Bamba should look elsewhere.
Do Trippy and Kennard return? If so, theres not even any room on the wing.
Do Trippy and Kennard return? If so, theres not even any room on the wing.
Knox is not going to dook!
Bamba is being told there's room for him.
Bolden, Jeter, Giles are gone.
Well, Tatum was given free reign and has taken the third most shots behind Kennard and Allen. He has used it to become a sure lottery pick. So I don't think he regrets his decision. I'm just afraid that Knox will see that as his role next year and follow Tatum to dook. And the consensus is that Bamba will wind up at UK or dook.
It wouldn't surprise me if at least one of Bolden/DeLaurier/Jeter decides to transfer.
From what I've heard Knox is not a OAD (probably a 2 year guy), which probably means UNC is the place, and will perpetuate the reputation that we don't get those types of players anymore...
I don't mind that. We just need to get more of the Bradleys, Jacksons, Berrys ect...
The LOM does not care about Bolden/Jeter/Delaurier sitting on the bench. Once they get to Duke they can either transfer or sit on the bench and shut-up. If you recall, David Robinson's son redshirted for Duke last year. What kind of minutes will that kid get next year? None, el zippo. I think if Bolden does not declare for the NBA he will be the one that transfers. Jeter has to go down in history as one the most overated 5-star players ever. Jeter will never get drafted to the NBA so his best best bet to finish his educationout at Duke and move on.
Duke needs a star point quard. Perhaps K is selling Knox that he will be the point guard next year. As far fetched as this may seem, K could get away with it.
Let's be fair, Steat. Justin Robinson has actually played 10 minutes this year. dook has Carter coming in next year and I think he starts from day one. So there's no guarantee that Bolden starts next year either, although I think it likely. I don't see him leaving. DeLaurier should though.
It's more likely that he's selling Knox on being a stretch four like Tatum has been.
Arch, David Robinson has to be pleased that his son got those 10 minutes...probably got a video tape of it all....proud dad!....lol
Arch, David Robinson has to be pleased that his son got those 10 minutes...probably got a video tape of it all....proud dad!....lol
Robinson was just a preferred walk on......he knows that he won't get meaningful PT at Duke. Not this year or ever.
Hyped freshmen vs expierence d seniors and juniors I for one will take the upper class men every time.
Negative. I think that was Okafor. He the one guy Coach K can point to in regards to Bigs. Until him, he never had a OAD star Big man that kids remember(doubt they remember Elton Brad).
But they still beat us, which is tough to stomach
I'll take the ACC regular season crown for sure, but damn I'm gonna be pissed if we don't get them in CH on Saturday.
Good call. Which reminds me how much that USA Basketball advantage stinks. He doesn't sniff Okafor without that
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I doubt he regrets his decision (Dennis Smith probably does though), but I don't think it's enhanced his draft profile in any way. Tatum would be starting on just about any team, and he's getting drafted so high because of his length and athleticism, not his shooting.
Thinking about it more UNC might be the one team Tatum wouldn't start on. If Pinson is healthy Tatum's only potential spot is the 4. Does Roy start him over Hicks? Doubtful. Although with all the foul trouble and injuries Tatum would be seeing 25-30 minutes a game in Chapel Hill too. I wouldn't be surprised if he was 3rd on our team in shots in this alternate universe.
So what should Knox see? Giles, Bolden, Jeter, Jackson, Thornton all disappointments. Ingram and Tatum did well but didn't light the world on fire, could have done similar with more team success at UNC. I suppose I'd be concerned about our 4 spot next year from the standpoint of wanting to play on a championship team. But then if Allen or Kennard stay they are going to get in the way on offense, whereas Knox could be the man (offensively) on the wing for us next year.
There are several reasons why Roy has won 8 Regular Season titles in 14 years, while Rat has won 2 ... it's called total team development ... from bigs, to bench, to the strength coach, everyone. He recruits 2 to 4 year players and builds a T E A M. Something that hasnt been done in Derm since the late 90's.
Dude...they've won 3 natty's since the late 90s. Making fun of Duke is fun, especially with how much they've struggled the past 2 seasons...but saying they haven't built a team since 1999 is dumb.
You can win natty's with individuals, MANY teams have done it ... my point was about the ACC regular season and consistent success in that brutal stretch - which Roy has had and Krat, not so much. 8 to 2 speaks for itself. Krat's dominance of the league came to a halt when RW rolled into town.
Soooo...is that supposed to make me feel better?
K's won 6 ACC Tournaments to Roy's 3 since Roy got to Chapel Hill. Are we to glean that K is just a better tourney coach?
Since when are regular season titles more important than NC's? Bizarro world?
And please...in 2010, Schyer/Singler/Smith/Lance were all upperclassmen who played together a ton. Your argument there sucks, just move on and make fun of their past 2 seasons.
C'mon bro, read my posts again. I've already said TWICE that I'm talking about the 4 month long regular season. It takes a team playing together to roll out 8 RST's in 14 seasons. Anyone can get hot over 6 games and ride one or two individuals to a title, which dook (and many others) have done several times. I absolutely 100% believe that Roy is better at developing a complete team with all of his available weapons than Kay is.
I will admit that the Scheyerface dook squad was more of a team than any they've had since Brand/Battier/JWill left town. Ever since then they have (primarily) relied on one or two deadly outside shooters and a lottery pick ... no bench development, no post development, etc.
Please quote where I said RST's are "more important" ... we can debate, but please dont put words in my mouth.
I totally understand your point: Roy put together more complete teams that can compete in the long haul of a complete conference season than K does. Roy's 8 regular season ACC crowns seems to bare that out.
My confusion and frustration comes in with making that information jive with this information:
- K's Duke beats Roy's Carolina A LOT more than Roy's Carolina beats K's Duke
- K has just as many national titles in the timespan we're discussing and....K has twice as many ACC Tournament titles.
I.E. how can the former and latter both be true? It's perplexing and frustrating
K is (IMO) a much better one-off game coach than Roy ... like Roy vs Mooooo, Kay gets the maximum out of his guys vs UNC, it's always been that way.
And a difference of 5 games out of 27 is not "A LOT more" -- again, IMO.
ACCT titles: since Roy came to UNC he has 3 ... Kay has 5. Again, that's not exactly lopsided. The RST's are, however, lopsided.
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