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Naval Thoughts

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No, I am not going to try to make the cut for the Seals to replace Chris Kyle.

I am thinking about the Naval Academy football program. Even before Maryland whored itself to the Bloated Ten, I went on record saying that it might take the ACC adding Navy for football to get Notre Dame as a full football member.

For those who may not know, ND has played Navy more than any other school. Because Navy placed WW2 programs at ND, which kept the college open, ND will always play Navy every year as long as Navy wants to play ND. Quite simply, Navy as a league game will make it much easier for ND to play an 8 game ACC schedule. It means going from 6 to 8.

The opposition to adding Navy was 2-fold: 1) we already had Maryland and did not need another school in a smaller state, and 2) Navy football could never compete in any Power conference.

Objection #1 died when Maryland left. Adding Navy would plant the ACC right back in the Baltimore TV market, with a team that has at least 2 and maybe 4 or 5 times more national TV drawing power than Maryland. All college football fans across the country know Navy - nobody gives a rat's behind about Maryland.

Objection #2 should have no more legs. Navy is handicapped playing Major College Football, but so are Wake and Dook and BC. And Navy now sits ranked ahead of UNC in the CFB playoff rankings.

Navy could compete in ACC football. The Middies might go 20 years and never finish higher than 6th one time, but they could compete most years and be bowl eligible half the time, maybe more. It is possible that Navy in the ACC would be able to attract some high character football players who now go to Northwestern or Vandy or Stanford, etc., as well as taking some top players who otherwise would go to Army or Air Force, thereby building more depth than it has had since the dawn of 2 platoon football.
 
I don't really want another triple option offense in the ACC, but beyond that, Navy is obviously a prestigious institution to have in the conference. Also, it would be cool to have the Army-Navy game affiliated with the conference.

However, they would need to join in football only, or in all sports minus basketball. Navy cannot compete in D1 basketball due to height restrictions.
 
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They did have a guy that played center in basketball, he went into the subs for service and subsequently grew alot, became an ambassador for the Navy and went on to play in the NBA...or am I mis-remembering again... :cool:
 
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They did have a guy that played center in basketball, he went into the subs for service and subsequently grew alot, became an ambassador for the Navy and went on to play in the NBA...or am I mis-remembering again... :cool:
Give me another example, not named David Thompson. Also, look at their record the last 10 years and what league they play in.
 
Give me another example, not named David Thompson. Also, look at their record the last 10 years and what league they play in.
Do you mean David Robinson? UNC and Navy have a little history too. We played Navy in '57 or '58 I believe it was and won without attempting a single pass. I think it was the year before Tatum died..
 
I don't really want another triple option offense in the ACC, but beyond that, Navy is obviously a prestigious institution to have in the conference. Also, it would be cool to have the Army-Navy game affiliated with the conference.

However, they would need to join in football only, or in all sports minus basketball. Navy cannot compete in D1 basketball due to height restrictions.
Football, lacrosse, and baseball. No hoops. Navy would be happy with Patriot League in hoops, which is the #4 sport on campus and to alums.
 
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Football, lacrosse, and baseball. No hoops. Navy would be happy with Patriot League in hoops, which is the #4 sport on campus and to alums.
I'm down with this. I think all ACC schools will appreciate the prestige that Navy would add to an already prestigious league. And like I said above, do not underestimate the value of the ACC being able to put their conference banner and signage in the stadium for the Army - Navy game. And, in general, Navy plays marquee OOC matchups, which is good material for the conference.

And yes, would be a slap in the face of Maryland for sure. Which is always good. If we aren't going to pursue WVU (my #1 choice because of not only football but also basketball and men's/women's soccer), then Navy is my #2 choice.
 
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They did have a guy that played center in basketball, he went into the subs for service and subsequently grew alot, became an ambassador for the Navy and went on to play in the NBA...or am I mis-remembering again... :cool:
Yep, the Admiral had quite the career didn't he?!?
 
I'm down with this. I think all ACC schools will appreciate the prestige that Navy would add to an already prestigious league. And like I said above, do not underestimate the value of the ACC being able to put their conference banner and signage in the stadium for the Army - Navy game. And, in general, Navy plays marquee OOC matchups, which is good material for the conference.

And yes, would be a slap in the face of Maryland for sure. Which is always good. If we aren't going to pursue WVU (my #1 choice because of not only football but also basketball and men's/women's soccer), then Navy is my #2 choice.
If we are back to realigning, the ACC MUST get to 16 and not stop until they do. I say Notre Dame, Navy, WVU, and either Cincinnati or East Carolina. Cincinnati would get into the Ohio footprint and give ND, WVU, Pitt geographically closer games. ECU wouldn't expand the ACC footprint but would lock up another North Carolina D1 program.
 
ECU wouldn't expand the ACC footprint but would lock up another North Carolina D1 program.

But it would make the rest of the ACC members NOT in NC go nuts for the perceived "NC Bias" all over again. Granted, having ECU for no other reason than to MAKE the knuckle dragging sheep molesters at moo have to play them every year would be worth it, plus they have put together some good teams in football recently. I have NO problem adding them, but that would open up a can of worms.

As for the rest, I would add Navy in a heartbeat as well as WVU. I can't stand Cincinnati so I could care less about them other than the Ohio market, which I am not sure would matter if we could get ND and WVU in as a full time members. (Yes, I KNOW ND is in Indiana and not Ohio) I am just not sold on the Ohio market as a recruiting ground/TV market. I don't think we need it with adding other teams and I am not a fan of OSU or anyone else in Ohio for that matter. If we could skip that whole state I would be OK with it.
 
If we are back to realigning, the ACC MUST get to 16 and not stop until they do. I say Notre Dame, Navy, WVU, and either Cincinnati or East Carolina. Cincinnati would get into the Ohio footprint and give ND, WVU, Pitt geographically closer games. ECU wouldn't expand the ACC footprint but would lock up another North Carolina D1 program.
With ND, we have 15. Navy would make 16.

ECU is never getting into the ACC - even if Moo drops out, nobody else is going to vote in ECU.
 
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