NC native and Gator QB Will Grier
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I'm curious how legit his story is. These guys know from the second they step on campus not to take anything without getting it cleared first. We even had to do that in high school
After Lance Armstrong, there is no excuse for anybody being naive. That includes fans and journalists and coaches.
Agreed. But what I'm curious about is whether he knowingly used an illegal PED, or if he's actually stupid enough not to check with the medical staff. I'm inclined to think this is just his cover story.
It is funny that a program has to vacate wins if someone is sleeping on another person's couch, which has ZERO outcome on games, but doesn't if a players is caught with PEDs which does. You also have to be an idiot to get caught using, just ask NC State as they got by with it.
Interesting point. UNC found out that ineligible players had participated in games and had to vacate those wins. Why isn't Grier retroactively ineligible? Why shouldn't Florida have to vacate the wins in which he played? There may be a reasonable explanation but it's not immediately apparent, to me anyway.
Because the NCAA has set a precedent (because it only deals with eligibility) that as far as game results/wins/championships are concerned, it's OK if you use players who are doping, have raped, have murdered, and have robbed. Those championships are legitimate. If you used a player who *gasp* sold his jersey for money or *gasp* cheated on a paper (because who didn't cheat in some form on some type of assignment/test in college...), then that win needs to be revoked.
It's a screwed up culture the NCAA has created, and the way college sports fans have been conditioned to think is so perverse. Fans get so worked up over alleged NCAA infractions as if they are actual legal crimes. State fans think Roy should go to prison. LOL. College sports fans have conflated NCAA infractions (which are all arbitrary and most are pointless) with legal wrongdoing. It's ridiculous.
Back to the question though, I think Florida SHOULD have to forfeit the games he played in, based on precedent.
Absolutely true, and a sad statement. Worse yet, a guy like Shadrach Thornton had to commit three actual legal crimes before he was finally dismissed from the team.
Oh for sure. It's pretty clear: if you're going to get in trouble as a college athlete, make sure it's legal trouble. You can pick a few pockets and punch a few people.....just don't sell your game pants for money. Every program is guilty of this, UNC included (but much, much less frequently than most).
'ol Will stated that he thought it was something in an over the counter supplement, honestly, do people even do research on what is in that "supplement" stuff, my GP did all his medical training at UNC and he says not only no but heck no to supplements, as he says "I'm a science guy and I don't know what most of that stuff is made of or from"...
I guarantee you the first day those guys step on campus they have a team meeting where every single player is told not to take so much as an aspirin without consulting the team medical staff first.
A lot of those supplements are bad news...
Of course that is the case, after all, this comes from an SEC "football" University...
LOL maybe we might want to slow our roll on throwing stones, given current news.Of course that is the case, after all, this comes from an SEC "football" University...
