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Next year is a success if...?

gunslingerdick

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If what? What makes next year a success for the Heels?

For me, because of the recent struggles on the court due to the Great Unpleasantness, I'm asking for a lot. Here's what it's going to take for next year to be a success to me.

Scenario A
- A national championship - if this option comes to fruition, I don't care about anything else. We could have double digit losses again, go into the tournament as an 8 seed and get swept by duke. But if we bring home the ultimate prize, then I won't care at all about that other stuff. Granted, I might pull some hair out on the way. But if it ends with a title, then I can get over that.

Scenario B
- Win the ACC regular season.
- Win the ACC tournament
- Make the Final Four
- Sweep duke
- No more than 5 regular season losses

That's it. So for me, we either have to win the ultimate prize or we have to do a bunch of other great stuff. I mean, it's obviously awesome for duke fans that their team is in the Final Four. But as we all know, there are no guarantees. And if they lose, then what did they accomplish this year? They didn't win anything of importance. They swept us and that's kind of a big deal. But they won no championships. And schools like duke and UNC base success off of winning championships. When you make the Final Four and you don't win it, it's a huge letdown...unless, it's a Final Four that your program is building upon. For example, when we went to the Final Four and got our doors blown off by Kansas in 08, it was a building block to a championship. For duke, that's not going to be the case. And if we make it next year but don't win it, the window will have closed. Because Marcus, Brice and JP will all be going (and maybe Jackson too) and we'll be in somewhat of rebuilding mode where a Sweet 16 appearance will be viewed as successful. So the letdown of losing in the Final Four will hurt less if (1) it's a step towards the next year when you'll be back (and hopefully win it all) or (2) you have the consolation of other championships that you would have won during the year.

Now, would I be happy if we lose once to duke but win the ACC regular season and then flame out in the ACC tournament? I mean, I'd be happy that we won something, but I'd still look at the year as dissatisfying. Same with a sweep of duke but no championships. I'd be happy to have swept duke, but to not have any hardware at the end will be pretty damn disappointing. There are several combinations of the listed accomplishments for which I would be happy. But unless it's all the secondary accomplishments or the ultimate prize, then I'm not sure I'll be satisfied. Is that bad?

What will it take for you to see next year as successful?
 
Originally posted by gunslingerdick:
Scenario B
- Win the ACC regular season.
- Win the ACC tournament
- Make the Final Four
- Sweep duke
- No more than 5 regular season losses
I would say I have a similar scenario set of A/B. If they win the title as you said, doesn't really matter if they were a bubble team that made a run, I'd be happy.

My Scenario B is fairly close to yours, but with a couple tweaks:

- I'd make it an either/or with the ACC titles. Either reg season or tournament champs, don't necessarily need to be both.
- I'd change "sweep" to beat duke twice. If we only face them in the reg season then we need to sweep them, but if we face them in the ACC tourney - any 2 wins of 3 would be fine by me. If we meet them in the NCAA tourney, then the tourney win plus either reg season game would be enough.
- Final Four appearance and
 
To me it's very simple: Final Four. We need to end the drought of being within striking distance of a title.

I'm not sure this team will improve enough to lose 5 or fewer games, although it's certainly possible that a few of the toughest teams in the ACC will take a step backward. I really believe in our freshmen and hope they get the health and opportunity to leave a stamp on next year's team fully.
 
Sweep Dook and Final Four. Starting 3 Seniors, a Junior, and a Sophomore lottery pick next year. No excuses
 
For me, I also think the season sweep of Duke is very important, as well as a trip to the Final Four. Duke has had our number lately and I think it turns the tide from a recruiting perspective as well if we sweep Duke. Given our experience, if we don't make it to the final 4, it has to be a serious let down and a glaring shortfall of our current team and coach.
 
* Win 30+ games
* Reach the final four
* Stay ranked in the top 5 all year
* Land a huge 2016 recruiting class
* NCAA closes investigation and bball incurs no serious sanctions
 
The Nc2a finally does whatever and leaves us alone...

Barring any unforeseen departures or injuries I will say Acc champs and an appearance in Houston at the final 4

This post was edited on 3/30 7:41 PM by ohio tarheels
 
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Originally posted by heels05champs:
* Win 30+ games
* Reach the final four
* Stay ranked in the top 5 all year
* Land a huge 2016 recruiting class
* NCAA closes investigation and bball incurs no serious sanctions
WOW! Certainly hope we get all that!
 
Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:

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Originally posted by heels05champs:
* Win 30+ games
* Reach the final four
* Stay ranked in the top 5 all year
* Land a huge 2016 recruiting class
* NCAA closes investigation and bball incurs no serious sanctions
WOW! Certainly hope we get all that!
I also want the NCAA to get out of Chapel Hill, and I want this team to finally get Healthy, Tougher/Stronger and Smarter between now and next season, and hope injuries will be few, far and in between....

As for a list, the one above sums up my wishes to a "T"!

Go Tarheels!
 
These are great lists Here are some other tactical things I'd add:
shoot more free throws
shoot more three-pointers
shoot fewer 18 foot fadeaway jumpshots
lose 0R one games at home
Marcus have only about a third of our taken and made three pointers
read the nation and I fancied and defensive rebounding

All of these would be nice improvements over this years team. They have the skill to do these. They need to develop the mental toughness ageessiveness and killer instinct.
 
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