Alright, I've had enough of this. I've tried to be nice and just have a discussion for days now and you all just respond like a bunch of assholes. I look forward to beating the shit out of you guys on the 31st. Have fun here pretending that you're hot shit. Prepare to get whipped.
North Carolina vs South Carolina
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Alright, I've had enough of this. I've tried to be nice and just have a discussion for days now and you all just respond like a bunch of assholes. I look forward to beating the shit out of you guys on the 31st. Have fun here pretending that you're hot shit. Prepare to get whipped.
I thought that soup guy from OOTB was an FSU fan...
Bwahahahahaha. I was thinking the same thing.
Also, thanks for not tagging him. Dont need him over too.
your post is reasonable. you're right, scar has clear advantages in experience, depth, and overall talent. you guys have had some top recruiting classes recently, we haven't, but check back with us after a few years of mack brown. i would say the only advantage we might have in this game is scar's overconfidence (which is reflected in your posts to some degree). but it is the opening game and i know you guys want to start your season strong before you get your butts kicked in your sec schedule. also, scar's resentment that the sports world views UNC as the real "Carolina" will most likely prevent any complacency. in the long run, i like our chances against you in the future. i might add that our chances of winning the acc coastal will greatly exceed your chances of winning the sec east.
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It has been explained to you several times over that you came into the thread overly hostile, talking down to everyone about how superior the cocks are and how you knew more about our team than we did. After several incredibly arrogant posts, you were called on your shit and shown that you were wrong about almost everything you posted. Instead of just admitting you came in a little hot and didn't have all your facts straight, you decided to cry about it like a little bitch.
You did not want a genuine football discussion so please stop saying that. You just came over to talk shit and tell us how we have no chance to beat you.
They won the SEC East in 2010.*
* with a 5-3 conference record, because nobody else in that division finished above .500**
** YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE GRIND OF AN SEC SCHEDULE!!!!!1!!
He's lurking, no doubt. So along with all the other BS, he lied about leaving.
We should finally do a write-up, then have @heelbent ban him so he can't respond.
they'll never get there again in view of what's happening with other sec east teams, while mack brown and carolina will own the acc coastal. i agree scar plays in the toughest conference, which scar fans use as an excuse while conveniently failing to mention the recruiting advantages of being in the sec.
Wouldn't you be hostile to what you perceive to be hot shit?
Of course, what a yardbird perceives and reality rarely align.
Yeah, if I pulled for scar, I'd be a bitter person too.
And I'm sure if one of us did the same on their site, they would welcome us with open wings.
Oh well, it was kinda fun though, eh?
2K15, in reguards to your claims that your defense is loaded with NFL talent, why is it that not one of them made the 1st team preseason all conference team? I did see where four made second team but only two of them were on the defensive side of the ball. I think you're looking thru your "garnet" colored glasses. One thing I think you and I can agree on though is that if you were to get upset by the Heels your season is down the toilet after week #1.
That's what I think, which is the reason I think Muschamp should feel the pressure to win.
Yeah, his record at SC is 22-17 and 12-12 in the SEC. So I think he’s feeling pressure to have a better season than last year when he went 7-6 and 4-4. They will probably be dogs against Bama, Georgia, Florida, and Missouri.
If we were to upset them, it would not bode well for their season. Methinks this guy was whistling past the graveyard a bit, knowing that the heat is rising for Muschamp and knowing that they have to win their out of conference games.
The Cocks can’t afford to lay an egg against us.
If we were to upset them, it would not bode well for their season. Methinks this guy was whistling past the graveyard a bit, knowing that the heat is rising for Muschamp and knowing that they have to win their out of conference games.
The Cocks can’t afford to lay an egg against us.
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Here’s your answer...
As bad as many project UNC to be (4-7 wins) Scar is only favored by 7 points. That’s one TO, blocked punt, etc from being a head to head game. And this is despite our questions at Qb and a new staff. Look, Scar is favored and rightfully so given Scar has recruited slightly better than UNC combined with all the well-known UNC question marks. Again, that should concern you.
All that said, UNC’s recent W/L woes are well-known (less than impressive staff; non-P5 Qb in Elliott; Shoegate suspensions; and mass/key injuries. NONE of those factors are in play headed into Scar game. UNC has nothing to lose while Scar will be in full damage control if UNC is victorious. All the pressure is on Scar and if were a gamecock fan, I wouldn’t feel very confident given the point spread.
i did a quick calculation. in the past four years scar's recruiting classes have averaged 19th, while carolina's have averaged 27th. it may be semantics to some degree, but scar's recruiting has been top 20, carolina's top 30. personally, i'd say that's a clear difference in talent level, which mack has started to correct for the future.
You have to dig a little deeper though. Were they higher because of quality or quantity?
I appreciate someone finally attempting to have a discussion once all the smack has died down. I am open to talk with people willing.
I agree, all of the pressure is on South Carolina to win the game. If UNC simply loses, that won't be anything earth shattering - that is expected to most. It would be far more detrimental to USC to lose than for UNC to lose. However, the pressure is on UNC to not get blown out. The pressure is on to keep the game competitive. The reason for that is simple - when you are a new head coach attempting to turn the program around, you cannot come out your first game and get your ass whipped, especially when the fans have a high expectation that you can compete immediately. You all may not expect to win (or maybe you do), but you do expect to see significant improvement in Game 1. If Mack doesn't deliver an improved performance, not only does that disgruntle the fanbase right out of the gates, but it starts to put you in jeopardy with the recruits that are deciding between USC and UNC (which there are a lot of). South Carolina cannot afford to lay an egg, you are right about that. But North Carolina can't afford to lay an egg either.
And to most Gamecock fans, the spread means absolutely nothing to us. We are used to it. We haven't been the most consistent team over the past couple years, so vegas hardly ever picks us to win by more than 7, even against teams that we are very clearly better than. If you ask me and most Gamecocks, the reason the spread is so low is because we got curbstomped in the Belk Bowl. And we also think that you all are putting too much stock into that game being telling of how we will perform against you.
The reason we are confident in this game is simple X's and O's. We are hearing in practice that this is the deepest, most competitive, and best team we've had since 2013. Every single position on our team is headlined by veterans, and we feel talented and experienced at every position on our team. When we look at your team, we see that you are starting an inexperienced QB, an offensive line that has only 1 start between the C, RG, and RT, a D-line that lost its best player and is thin at depth, a largely inexperienced linebacker corps aside from 2 players (1 of which will not be available against us), and an unproven receiving corps that has 1 proven, experienced WR. You lost your leading tackler, your best WR, your best D-lineman, you lost your starting QB of two years, and you only won two games last year, both at home, against absolutely terrible teams (Youngstown State and Pitt).
Again, I do not deny that you guys will be better. I think you will come out and give us a good game, because even last year, you gave some teams a scare. But when you compare the depth charts - our X's against your O's, it just doesn't look to us like you all have the talent, depth, or experience, to hang with us every play for 4 quarters.
Multiple people already had. You chose to ignore them because it didn't fit your narrative and you got called out on your mistakes. Didn't you say you were going to leave and you looked forward to beating our ass? You think things are going to be all nice and cozy for you now? Just go back to creeping and stop posting like you claimed you would.
K, I apologize for talking a little bit of smack a week ago. Let's be adults now and not hold grudges about something so trivial. You don't have to act like I am permanently blacklisted because I talked a little bit of smack a while ago. I am pretty sure some of your posters would like to have a civil conversation. I am totally good with dropping all the hostility from a week ago to have a discussion where I receive your points and arguments, and we converse without getting hostile.
It wasn't a week ago. It was on Thursday. There are some posters who want to have a civil conversation and they tried to, but you continued to make an ass of yourself even after being told multiple times to chill out. If you would have acted more civil then you would have been welcome and we could have had a nice conversation, just like we did with the other south carolina fans. You said you were going to leave. Please keep your word. You're welcome to come back over here after your NFL caliber defense beats up our high school offense.
Serious question. What was your handle before 2k15?
I don't see that there is any pressure on the Heels or Mack. Most realistic Carolina fans know we aren't favored and likely won't win the game. Of course we want to see the upset, or at the very least make a good game of it.
However, if the Heels get blown out, it will suck but I am not going to freak out and I dont think most Carolina fans will either. We know that the process takes awhile. Now, if they are getting blown out multiple times and don't show solid improvement as the season progresses, then I am gonna be pissed.
However, if the Heels get blown out, it will suck but I am not going to freak out and I dont think most Carolina fans will either. We know that the process takes awhile. Now, if they are getting blown out multiple times and don't show solid improvement as the season progresses, then I am gonna be pissed.
And does he have a close family member that is a Nole fan?
You have a good point on being a more veteran team. UVA curb-stomping ya'll does raise an issue on "consistency" as you put it, and so it's difficult to assess exactly what team UNC will face. To get completely shut out by UVA is almost inexplicable. I bet UNC would at least manage to score against even Alabama and Clemson, even all banged up and going 2-9.
Is there a mental issue here with the SC team? I can't explain the curb-stomping. Can you?
I know the typical and accurate reason for that loss involves injuries, but a lot of SC fans act like we were not particularly plagued by injuries, even more so, and like I said I cannot fathom we'd have gone scoreless against any team, in fact, but ya'll did. Yet there is veteran "depth" there. Where was it that game?
There are too many unknowns to justify the confidence SC fans seem to have. Will your QB turn the ball over and lay an egg or will he play as he has in some games?
For us, will Bateman have his defense installed? And Longo have the offense ready? None of us really know for sure. Nor should glowing camp reports in Columbia be taken without a grain of salt.
Give me direct quotes where people asked to have a civil conversation with me and I reciprocated with negativity. You can't find any. In actuality, I was here asking you all to have a discussion with me, and you all replied with "no, we will not have a discussion with you", and you all continued to talk smack at me even when I hadn't posted for a couple days. It absolutely wasn't the other way around. If you contest that, I want direct quotes of people inviting me to have civil discourse, and quotes of me telling them no and "being an ass".
2k15 is my first username. I haven't given a shit about the Tar Heels since 2015 when we last played you. I hate FSU. You can find my username on multiple Gamecock forums.
Yes, Jake Bentley's inconsistencies at QB lead to that loss. Bentley is a hot and cold QB. When he's on fire, we win. When he's cold, we lose. He was really, really cold against UVA, and the fact that we had 19 injuries on defense didn't help that.
If you watch the UVA game, it was a contest throughout the entire thing. Our defense held firm on most drives, and our offense would move down the field on about half of our drives. What killed us is Bentley throwing 3 INT's in Virginia territory, two inside the redzone. It happened all game. There was even a 4th and 1 deep inside UVA territory on the first drive of the game, and Bentley overthrew a wide open receiver, which is basically another turnover.
What happened all game was we would spend a lot of clock successfully driving the ball downfield, ready to score, and then Bentley would throw an INT. It killed momentum entirely, gave UVA the ball, and caused Jake to throw worse and worse ad the game went on. I personally believe if we put in another QB, our backups Hilinski or Joyner, we would've won. Jake's performance from start to finish made us lose, and we had multiple opportunities to score and win throughout the course of the game.
He’s a QB that plays with redemption. His cycle of play is he shits the bed in one game, but comes back the next game more focused and plays smarter. But then he gets overconfident again, and shits the bed a couple games later.
You may notice that UVA was the subsequent game to his performance against Clemson, the number 1 defense in the nation, where he broke a school record in passing yards (510 yards and 5 TD’s through the air). So, he comes out the next game, thinking he’s hot shit, playing an ACC defense that isn’t that great, and he forces multiple passes because he thinks he can hit any target he wants, no matter the coverage. He played with supreme overconfidence and got his ass kicked.
We feel confident about Bentley playing against UNC because he’s going to be playing for redemption. He’s playing in the same stadium, Bell bowl, against an ACC opponent, and he’s had months to study and prepare. I suppose it’s possible he sucks again, but knowing Bentley’s rhythm, he should be focused and playing well for this game.
Here is a sampling of your first few posts.
Starting off with a you're crazy and you don't make sense.
Going with another you're crazy.
Moving on to a you're not being logical and what we are saying is BS. You also went ahead and threw in a we are clearly better than you.
Despite your arrogant bullshit, you got an opinion about your team, similar to how you told us about our team.
Here's another post from you.
This one is lovely as well.
Despite the fact you continued to act like an ass you got this response.
Then someone finally got tired of reading your mistakes and pointed them out to you.
Your last post before today was just the icing on the cake.
I didn't even include your bullshit on the other thread. Just go away and come back when you have some self awareness.
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