OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[bluetoe]

Well we could fix this by making every state do the same thing, like standardization across the country, maybe use Florida's model but STATES' RIGHTS! Right?

or Congress could establish reasonable parameters of acceptance, in regard to national positions, to adhere to and stay within in order to have votes count. That wouldn't be telling the States what to do, it would be informing them of what would be accepted and what wouldn't. I think they would have the right to do that, and it wouldn't be usurping States rights. as the States would still have the latitude to conduct their counts as they see fit.

But Congress isn't about to do such a thing if they can help it, is it?

 

[Heelicious]

It must be due to a majority of Americans who just voted for the Democrats.

6 million more people voted for Rs than Ds this election and that includes Ds turning out every possible vote of their base going door to door - whether you call that ballot harvesting or not.

How are 6M fewer votes a majority? Time to get back on the meds

 

[Heelicious]

Well we could fix this by making every state do the same thing, like standardization across the country, maybe use Florida's model but STATES' RIGHTS! Right?

@blazers warning- someone hacked your account and posted something that is logical, practical, makes sense.

You’re right it’d be great to follow FL law. Federal elections do have rules outlined in the constitution but I think it’d be super hard to get elections state by state to go to one set of rules for all states. I do wish it would happen and I am certain a majority of people and states would go for following the FL plan.

I think the SCOTUS should rule against these recent elections like in AZ NV CA CO that drag on and on - on an individual’s or state’s equal protection clause basis - but not holding my breath. People would scream bloody murder about SCOTUS being activist and choosing election winners

 

[carolinablue34]

Well we could fix this by making every state do the same thing, like standardization across the country, maybe use Florida's model but STATES' RIGHTS! Right?

I’d be in favor of a standard model across the board with some leeway for states to implement their own deviations. It’s not proof of fraud, but the western states really need to get their shit together when it comes to tabulating these votes. If Brazil can do it in a few hours, so should we.

 

[carolinablue34]

@blazers

I think the SCOTUS should rule against these recent elections like in AZ NV CA CO that drag on and on - on an individual’s or state’s equal protection clause basis - but not holding my breath. People would scream bloody murder about SCOTUS being activist and choosing election winners

You’re contradicting your own belief system here. The Supreme Court doesn’t have the right to overturn a free and fair election. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says they can. That’s over reach at its finest.

What the issue is, is the process of how the votes are being counted, not if they’re legitimate.

 

[carolinablue34]

6 million more people voted for Rs than Ds this election and that includes Ds turning out every possible vote of their base going door to door - whether you call that ballot harvesting or not.

How are 6M fewer votes a majority? Time to get back on the meds

Blame your precious conservative supermajority for legalizing gerrymandering.

 

[bluetoe]

You’re contradicting your own belief system here. The Supreme Court doesn’t have the right to overturn a free and fair election. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says they can. That’s over reach at its finest.

lol, all of a sudden you're in favor of keeping the SCOTUS within its Constitutional bounds? Talk about self-contradictions...

What the issue is, is the process of how the votes are being counted, not if they’re legitimate.

actually, it's both.

 

[gunslingerdick]

lol, all of a sudden you're in favor of keeping the SCOTUS within its Constitutional bounds? Talk about self-contradictions...

eXpAnD tHe CoUrT

 

[Heels Noir]

How are 6M fewer votes a majority?

Well, sometimes a majority is a majority if only in its effect.

 

[carolinablue34]

lol, all of a sudden you're in favor of keeping the SCOTUS within its Constitutional bounds? Talk about self-contradictions...



actually, it's both.

No, it really isn't.

 

[blazers]

re: accidents. you’re the one that brought up fetal alcohol syndrome … my point was that the mother made the DECISION to drink during pregnancy.

Many women don't even know they're pregnant til over a month in... plenty of time for binging. Again, condom breakage example...

you're making gigantic assumptions. how do you know the mother will always be "poor" ? how do you know the child wont end up in a loving family who raises him/her to be an amazing person.

Cuz if they're contemplating abortion they're already at risk for poverty and broken home. I'd think "your side" would know all about broken home vs traditional family.

 

[blazers]

Or we could go back to the way it was done pre-2020 - you know, expect people to actually show up and vote in person or request an absentee ballot - and have the results in a timely manner. But I get it. That wouldn't allow for them to count the votes as they go and find enough to get the desired outcome.

Pre-2020? Are you ignorant or do you have the memory of a hamster?

 

[bluetoe]

Well, sometimes a majority is a majority if only in its effect.

lol

A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance.
- Niccolo Machiavelli

'a man's got to know his limitations'
- 'Dirty Harry' Callahan

in your case, a man just needs to ADMIT his limitations.

 

[bluetoe]

No, it really isn't.

prove it

 

[carolinablue34]

prove it

My guy, you're the one insinuating there's cheating without evidence. That's on you. Idk why election deniers think they can just throw out an accusation like that and then think it's on the people running the election process to prove otherwise.

These midterms actually went quite smoothly.

 

[blazers]

or Congress could establish reasonable parameters of acceptance, in regard to national positions, to adhere to and stay within in order to have votes count. That wouldn't be telling the States what to do, it would be informing them of what would be accepted and what wouldn't. I think they would have the right to do that, and it wouldn't be usurping States rights. as the States would still have the latitude to conduct their counts as they see fit.

Sounds like you are advocating for guidelines which states could implement in any fashion they'd like, and this kinda sounds like what we have already.

But Congress isn't about to do such a thing if they can help it, is it?

Not the STATES' RIGHTS YA'LL congress. Florida wouldn't even allow federal voting monitors.

You’re right it’d be great to follow FL law. Federal elections do have rules outlined in the constitution but I think it’d be super hard to get elections state by state to go to one set of rules for all states. I do wish it would happen and I am certain a majority of people and states would go for following the FL plan.

FYI, Florida LOVES mail-in voting and early-voting.

 

[Heels Noir]

Blah, blah, blah . . .

You're doubting the midterm election's effects? Look no further than you and others here bitching and moaning and scratching your heads wondering what went wrong. Red wave, my eye. 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[Heels Noir]

prove it

blue's typical introduction to another of his bullshit sessions. Expect lies and embellishments and obfuscation to follow.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Pre-2020? Are you ignorant or do you have the memory of a hamster?

Lemme guess, you're going to bring up the one outlier of 2000?

 

[strummingram]

My guy, you're the one insinuating there's cheating without evidence. That's on you. Idk why election deniers think they can just throw out an accusation like that and then think it's on the people running the election process to prove otherwise.

These midterms actually went quite smoothly.

sore losers... pretty simple. The worst, most delusional sore losers in recent history.

 

[blazers]

I’d be in favor of a standard model across the board with some leeway for states to implement their own deviations. It’s not proof of fraud, but the western states really need to get their shit together when it comes to tabulating these votes. If Brazil can do it in a few hours, so should we.

IMHO federal positions like senator and pres should just use one standard - one process, one type of paper or machines or deadlines or verifications, audits, etc. One bipartisan standard would be cheaper to implement and easier to make secure. "federal voter ID" would be easier to implement/fund, too. Bipartisan officials could run them while multiple parties have watchers.

 

[gunslingerdick]

IMHO federal positions like senator and pres should just use one standard - one process, one type of paper or machines or deadlines or verifications, audits, etc. One bipartisan standard would be cheaper to implement and easier to make secure. "federal voter ID" would be easier to implement/fund, too. Bipartisan officials could run them while multiple parties have watchers.

Who gets to pick the "bipartisan" officials? lol

 

[nctransplant]

Who gets to pick the "bipartisan" officials? lol

Will be based on J6 committee qualifications.

 

[strummingram]

Who would have thought that telling John McCain republicans... in Arizona... to "get the hell out", would have any negative consequences!

Kari Lake Tells McCain Republicans to “Get the Hell Out” and Calls White Nationalist State Senator Wendy Rogers “A Hero” - AZ Dems

For Immediate Release Sunday, Nov. 6th, 2022 Contact: Josselyn Berry, Jberry@azdem.org Kari Lake Tells McCain Republicans to “Get the Hell Out” and Calls White Nationalist State Senator Wendy Rogers “A Hero” While Kari Lake attacks members of her own party, Katie Hobbs backed by coalition of...

azdem.org

 

[gunslingerdick]

Who would have thought that telling John McCain republicans... in Arizona... to "get the hell out", would have any negative consequences!

Kari Lake Tells McCain Republicans to “Get the Hell Out” and Calls White Nationalist State Senator Wendy Rogers “A Hero” - AZ Dems

For Immediate Release Sunday, Nov. 6th, 2022 Contact: Josselyn Berry, Jberry@azdem.org Kari Lake Tells McCain Republicans to “Get the Hell Out” and Calls White Nationalist State Senator Wendy Rogers “A Hero” While Kari Lake attacks members of her own party, Katie Hobbs backed by coalition of...

azdem.org

lolololol

With as much grief as you give @randman1 for linking certain publications, the audacity you have in linking "AZ Dems" and wanting anyone to take you seriously is absolutely stunning.

 

[strummingram]

lolololol

With as much grief as you give @randman1 for linking certain publications, the audacity you have in linking "AZ Dems" and wanting anyone to take you seriously is absolutely stunning.

Who said I wanted to be taken seriously?

 

[strummingram]

Meghan McCain responds to ‘bile trash’ from Kari Lake about John McCain

Political analyst Meghan McCain, the daughter of former Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), responded on Monday to comments made by Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake (R) about her father, calling t…

thehill.com

McCain Republicans Vote, Too | National Review

Of Kari Lake and Blake Masters, one can only say: Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven’t they?

www.nationalreview.com

It's not looking good for Kari Lake. I picture John McCain laughing his head off

Kari Lake didn't want moderate Republican voters, and it appears they're returning the favor. Barring a miracle, she's done.

www.azcentral.com

Take these sources seriously... or not. Keep believing the machines were rigged.

 

[bluetoe]

blue's typical introduction to another of his bullshit sessions. Expect lies and embellishments and obfuscation to follow.

and you produce only more unsubstaiated accusations, exactly as I said you would. When you actually catch me in a lie, please C&P it, just as I have done with you any number of times. But none of the out-of-context or false wording games that you normally employ, please.

For example, note your use of the word 'bullshit' above. In this context, it could mean a number of different things, but would indicate something that I do that you deem to be negative. But when you were trying too hard not long ago to pin me as a liar, you insisted that my use of the word bullshit could only means lies. And you reproduced it out of context so that other meanings would be obscured. I guess we kmow who the obfuscater really is, don't we? HINT: it's you.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Who said I wanted to be taken seriously?

Oh good. Because if so, I had some bad news for you.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Election machines reported more votes than ballots in two Virginia precincts, nonprofit alleges

The two precincts were in Virginia's 7th and 10th Congressional Districts.

justthenews.com

 

[bluetoe]

You're doubting the midterm election's effects? Look no further than you and others here bitching and moaning and scratching your heads wondering what went wrong. Red wave, my eye. 🤣 🤣 🤣

I've already told you that I had no expectations about the results of the recent election. You will NOT find a post of mine where I use the term 'red wave', or express high expectations for one.......because I'm not wet behind the ears like you and I know not to take things for granted.

Your little cooter is just itching to rub the election results in, but you're trying to rub the wrong guy. Idiot.

ETA I guess I should point out more strongly that as is your custom, you put words in my mouth just so you could appear to have something substantial to post about. Fail. Of course next, that's what you'll be accusing me of because that's what you do.

 

[bluetoe]

My guy, you're the one insinuating there's cheating without evidence. That's on you. Idk why election deniers think they can just throw out an accusation like that and then think it's on the people running the election process to prove otherwise.

These midterms actually went quite smoothly.

no, I'm not insinuating that there was cheating, I'm indicating that the question of cheating is on the table....and will be until we return to a more controlled, actively participated-in and promptly tabulated type of election. I've stated before that the only valid election in a country like ours that serves as a shining example of fair politics, is one that can not be seriously questioned.

 

[strummingram]

no, I'm not insinuating that there was cheating, I'm indicating that the question of cheating is on the table....and will be until we return to a more controlled, actively participated-in and promptly tabulated type of election. I've stated before that the only valid election in a country like ours that serves as a shining example of fair politics, is one that can not be seriously questioned.

If you and your buddies had gotten your red wave, you wouldn't be questioning anything.

 

[carolinablue34]

no, I'm not insinuating that there was cheating, I'm indicating that the question of cheating is on the table....and will be until we return to a more controlled, actively participated-in and promptly tabulated type of election. I've stated before that the only valid election in a country like ours that serves as a shining example of fair politics, is one that can not be seriously questioned.

My friend, it's being questioned due the machinations and narcissism of one man and those follow him blindly. As Dan Crenshaw put it on his podcast- the 2020 election denial was all bullshit. It was a lie. And most people perpetuating that lie knew it.

Look, you wanna argue Arizona and Nevada took too long to count? Sure. But the results weren't skewed towards one side or the other. There is no reason to think that American elections aren't operating just fine.

 

[strummingram]

My friend, it's being questioned due the machinations and narcissism of one man and those follow him blindly. As Dan Crenshaw put it on his podcast- the 2020 election denial was all bullshit. It was a lie. And most people perpetuating that lie knew it.

Look, you wanna argue Arizona and Nevada took too long to count? Sure. But the results weren't skewed towards one side or the other. There is no reason to think that American elections aren't operating just fine.

If they gotten the results the same night, and lost, they'd still be griping about it. If they don't get their way, then it's rigged.

 

[Heels Noir]

no, I'm not insinuating that there was cheating, I'm indicating that the question of cheating is on the table.

Insinuating, indicating, what's the difference? For both you are implying a distinct possibility that there may have been cheating. It's all the same thing, you hapless crybaby. Your team lost and you're understandably frustrated about it. Denying that it's so is you once again . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . . LYING.

 

[carolinablue34]

Election machines reported more votes than ballots in two Virginia precincts, nonprofit alleges

The two precincts were in Virginia's 7th and 10th Congressional Districts.

justthenews.com

Yeah 5-10 more votes than ballots in one case. And the other 531 votes compared 504 cast.

Oh my God, sound the alarm bells. It's deliberate fraud, I tell you. Fraud.

 

[blazers]

Who gets to pick the "bipartisan" officials? lol

How bout the way Virginia currently does it:

"a board or commission oversees elections, and the state chief election official is a member of the board or commission. Appointments to election boards are usually made by the governor and confirmed by the senate, and boards are most often structured to be bipartisan, with a certain number of members from each of the major political parties."

 

[gteeitup]

this “maga presser” going on now is hilarious…popcorn will be ready.

lol why even bring up oceans rising?…not only are his numbers false, but why now!?

 

[blazers]

Trump 2024
LFG!