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Well let’s not get too holier than thou. Your idol handed out pardons to criminal family members and allies like candy at Christmas and anyone with a hint of intelligence knows 1000% certain he will again. Biden is no better. But if you’re trying to claim this is somehow worse than trump or previous presidents I’m just gonna laugh.
Well, the devil is always in the details isn't it? I'm not claiming anything, nor could I, as I don't know what those "pardons to criminal family members and allies" actually said. All I'm pointing out is the very, very, very broad nature of the language used by Joe for Hunter. This pretty much confirms that there is a boatload more of shit that Hunter did that hasn't seen the light of day. That should be the real story here.
If you are saying that Trump actually did that as well, fine, but I'm not playing the who is the same, worse or better game. Incidentally, are you of the frame of mind that the collective yawn and reaction to this would be the same if we see Trump doing this for Eric and/or Don, Jr. in exactly four years? I think the meltdown would be worse than Chernobyl.
And I should add that on a personal level, I've got no problem with it. I think Joe would get a lot more mileage and sympathy on this if he'd just come out and say, "Look, he's my son. Any parent should understand how much I love him and only want the best for him. He may have done some things wrong, but I have the power to put that behind him. It's been forgiven and we are all moving on. This is the last comment I will make on the topic. Thank you."
Most would completely understand such a position. What wouldn't you do for your kids given the ability?
I’ll let you research who he pardoned and let you draw your own conclusions. But imo it’s wrong for the president to have that power. I don’t know the history of why they do or what it was intended for but I can’t help but think it wasn’t for the power to be used like it is.
Pardoning is in the Constitution, so you'd have to dig through the Federalist Papers and the like to get a sense of it all. Guessing it came from the King/Queen having the ability to exercise their mercy. I'm also guessing that the biggest fight was over the limits or broadness. It is one of those things that is probably necessary in the end. I mean, Ford probably shouldn't have pardoned Nixon and it ruined him politically, but in the end, would it have helped our nation to drag Tricky Dick through the mud any worse than what happened? We'll never know. Incidentally, I seem to remember reading somewhere that Obama set the record for pardons.
Dims are liars and hypocrites above all else. That never changes. Broadest pardon since Ford pardoned Nixon. Biden will eventually pardon his other family members too.There's a ton of crickets around here. Where are all the "No one is above the law" types now that there are no election efforts happening and the truth is again slowly emerging after the fact? How can this type of thing not allow them to admit or at least reconsider the manipulation of the system to simply get Joe re-elected/bury orange hitler? It's not like the media was in the bag on all this or anything.
Corporate Media: Obviously Joe Biden Would Never Pardon Hunter [Supercut]
‘No one is above the law’news.grabien.com
https://www.foxnews.com/media/six-t...president-biden-wouldnt-pardon-his-son-hunter
but we knew that already, no extra proof needed. SOME of us knew that already. The president's ability to pardon at will has been routinely abused, but this far-reaching pardon should alert even the most oblivious that there is more to this act than just negating the tax and gun convictions of Hunter. There is nothing in Denmark more rotten than there is with Joe Biden and his clan. It sickens that Trump could be so thoroughly persecuted while the real cocksucker slimes away unscathed. .
one can only hope that the reason we hear nothing but crickets is because those we normally contend with here have the common decency to be too embarrassed to show their faces(?). Or even to admit to being a democrat.There's a ton of crickets around here. Where are all the "No one is above the law" types now that there are no election efforts happening and the truth is again slowly emerging after the fact? How can this type of thing not allow them to admit or at least reconsider the manipulation of the system to simply get Joe re-elected/bury orange hitler? It's not like the media was in the bag on all this or anything.
Corporate Media: Obviously Joe Biden Would Never Pardon Hunter [Supercut]
‘No one is above the law’news.grabien.com
https://www.foxnews.com/media/six-t...president-biden-wouldnt-pardon-his-son-hunter
I had to laugh cynically when I read that Biden said that the reason for the pardon was because Hunter's convictions came about only as a political attempt to disrupt Biden's re-election campaign. Imagine the gonads it takes to spout that level of hypocrisy, especially when the pardon covers, as you point out, anything from jaywalking to axe murder in the ridiculous range of time given.
I can't help myself. I know this is in bad taste, but I can't help saying I told you so. I tried to convey long before he was elected what a POS politician he has always been.
yep. Reference the video of Hillary I posted. They don't care about the country, they care about staying in power. Their policies don't matter, the sheep will keep supporting the given shepherd regardless.
Ford pardoning Nixon was nowhere near the egregiously self-serving abuse of the power to pardon that this is. That power needs to be greatly reined in. Too bad that can't happen before what you suggest takes place, and I agree that there is a distinct possibility of it happening.
No it doesn't.
What it confirms is what we already know - because Trumps said he would pursue more charges against Hunter and the whole Biden family.
Yes, the guy who complained about so-called lawfare has promised to engage in it.
Biden should probably preemptively pardon a bunch of people. The problem with that, of course, is it makes people look guilty.
sometimes better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open the piehole and remove all doubt.
More charges needed to be pursued simply because the Biden clan was engaging in activities possibly harmful to our country. You nailed it though. Such preemptive pardons do make the pardoned look guilty. Or in this case, serve to verify guilt. Biden claims the convictions were politically motivated to disrupt his campaign for re-election. OK then, why go so far-reaching with the pardon to cover times and crimes not yet charged that could have no effect on that now non-existent campaign?
Are you just a hard core apologist or are you actually this gullible?
I would bet large that he's peeking in and using his better judgement about showing up here any time soon.
of course they're being told that, you treasonous whore. He's telling them the truth and you are for furthering the ever more leftist idiocy that lost you the election. As I've said many times before, I'd like to fly her to Vietnam and 'drop' her off.
Haha! Mr. Just Wear a Mask wants us to believe the far left isn't nuts?
if I'm trying to start a 'Far Left Isn't Nuts' campaign, I'm probably not making Jane Fonda the spokesperson.
The second you mention Jane Fonda my impartiality leaves the building. I despise that woman. She should have been stripped of her rights as an American citizen when she climbed her entitled butt up on that AA piece and gave her little speech, IMO. She can kiss my ass.
I might find it worth conversing with you on the issues if you forewent the need to begin and end your comments with personal attacks.
I have a tough skin, so no harm done, but why would I bother to try to reason with someone who acts like that?
Getting upset because someone is pulling back the veil on the weird shit the far left leans into is an interesting approach.
What far left weird shit?
The right keeps saying that. I'm not saying it's a null set, but it's mostly made up or trivial.
If you were a man on Mars getting written reports on what Ds and Rs say they stand for, you'd think we had 2 corporate parties that differ slightly based on which coalitions of corporations they get money from. And that's pretty much the truth.
Thanks.
All Trump wants is a level playing field trade wise and secured borders. Those are reasonable goals. We should be able to find enough common ground with both of our neighbors to make that doable. Dims never even made any attempt to do that.
What we know about the Biden family’s crimes is just the tip of the iceberg because the DOJ did everything in their power to obfuscate any investigation into them. There is so much more that hasn’t been revealed. Trump actually had lawfare used against him over and over again.
Siding with Hanoi Jane doesn’t bolster your argument, it undermines it. Maher is a dyed in the wool progressive but he’s not as Uber liberal as she is. He still has some common sense.
Amen to the first statement. As for the second, I’m not sure if Dim lemmings are that gullible or if they just can’t admit when they’re wrong. Hell, they’re convinced they lost the election not because of their woke policies but because their “messaging” was bad. Talk about being blind to reality.
This pretty much sums up the mantra of all things orange being bad. Hoax after hoax after hoax. . . . .
Yeah, that's double redundant. You could have just said "What left shit?"
You're just lying to yourself on this because it undermines the entire support that was thrown behind your peeps. Unless someone has committed crimes, there would be no reason to make this language so broad, regardless of Trump's statements of intent (which is not an agreement to your summary of it). Either Hunter engaged in stuff that was going to be a big problem, or it would at least be a problem for Joe. I made it clear above that I had no problem with Joe pardoning his son on a personal level. I probably have a bigger issue with him if he hadn't is the truth. There was just no need to make it so broad unless there is a worry. Pardon him for his pleas/guilty findings and be done with it.
it wasn't a personal attack. It was commentary apropos to the idiocy of what you posted. Then again, only the most obtuse would think it reasonable to accuse Trump of engaging in 'lawfare' after what he's been dealing with for all these years. And only the most naive of apologists could fail to see that there is far more to the scope of the pardon in question than just excusing the convictions already on record.
People who act like that? People who deal with reality and speak their mind about it? JMO, but I think we'd be much better off doing that than spouting the silliness that you did. I have a thick skin as well. No harm done and I am not going to crawl in some hole and cry over what you posted or refuse to engage someone who reacts negatively to me. You are welcome to grow a pair and come back at me any time.
Stupid Trump. Mexico decided to intercept another several caravans of illegals just because of his stupid tariff threats. What an idiot, huh?
But I just found out that I might have to pay double for that Indian car I've been saving up for, and I am just heartbroken that now I might have to settle for some American product.. I am hearing the sage wisdom coming from wait, what? The Kremlin? When did we start accepting criticism from the country that is invading the country that we are sending billions to, and which colluded with Trump to take over our democracy and enslave millions of blah blah blahs. And here I thought that made them our enemy, not our economic adviser.. I better start paying more attention to this tariff perfidy, because so far I haven't seen any..
I've posted before that MANY years ago when the idea of Trump running for president was posed, he said he didn't think he would ever do that UNLESS it was to stop other countries from taking advantage of us. He isn't the bullshitter that you lefties try to make him out to be. He is now doing exactly what he said he would do, which is to level the playing field.
Dims are so butt hurt that they lost, it is wonderful to see. I’ve heard so many excuses for why they lost, most wildly inaccurate. They constantly look in front of them for the blame, never looking at themselves for the reasons. Most of the Squad here have disappeared, I hope they haven’t harmed themselves. Probably still in their safe space curled in a fetal position.
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