Popovich next in line for USA Mens.. Roy?

[ACokeForRoy]

Awesome to know that Popovich is next in line for the head coaching spot for the US Mens team. Good to see someone else getting an opportunity. With that being said..given Pop and Roy's close relationship what are the chances Pop ask Roy to join the staff. It would be great for Roy as well as the UNC program to have Roy on the bench. The way Roy likes recruit I wonder if he would accept if asked given it could cut into recruiting time. What are your thoughts?

 

[Archer2]

Well, he's certainly deserving of the opportunity. And I doubt you'll ever see another coach monopolize the position the way the LOM has. Just poor form, IMO. It's an honor that should be passed from coach to coach. But the recruiting advantages are obvious and the LOM wanted to milk that advantage for all it was worth. Of course Mike has always been about MIke, first and foremost.

 

[tarheels0015]

would like to see Roy on the staff .. I could see K crying to the ncaa that it is a unfair recruiting advantage for Roy as asst coach .

 

[TPFKAPFS]

I believe as a reaction to the changing landscape of college recruiting, Roy might accept if asked. Earlier in his tenure at UNC, I have no doubt that Roy would have considered direct recruiting more important. He is a smart dude and he sees the advantage it has given his rodent colleague. I hope Pop does ask Roy (and I would not be surprised) and ,if Roy accepts, I believe we will see the complete resurgence of UNC bball soon after!

The spin minions aside, most smart peeps think this will also show a corresponding dip in puke's recruiting. But I'm just glad we are back in the conversation and Roy is back to the point that this seems like a natural call for Pop to make!

 

[Phillfan]

Well, he's certainly deserving of the opportunity. And I doubt you'll ever see another coach monopolize the position the way the LOM has. Just poor form, IMO. It's an honor that should be passed from coach to coach. But the recruiting advantages are obvious and the LOM wanted to milk that advantage for all it was worth. Of course Mike has always been about MIke, first and foremost.

You should speak to Colangelo then. K tried to step away and was begged to return.

 

[Archer2]

You should speak to Colangelo then. K tried to step away and was begged to return.

They begged Dean to return as well but he declined, stating that he'd had his chance and that honor should be shared with other coaches. Would it have been so hard to say "Thanks, but no thanks?" But then again, he wasn't the egomaniac the LOM is. He knows it gives him a huge recruiting advantage to coach the USA team and he's used it to his great advantage. Denying this is just being unrealistic.

If you're a top 10 players whose ultimate goal is to play in the NBA, would you rather play for a coach that has coached Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Durant, etc... or one who hasn't? Puhleeeeeease.

 

[Phillfan]

They begged Dean to return as well but he declined, stating that he'd had his chance and that honor should be shared with other coaches. Would it have been so hard to say "Thanks, but no thanks?" But then again, he wasn't the egomaniac the LOM is. He knows it gives him a huge recruiting advantage to coach the USA team and he's used it to his great advantage. Denying this is just being unrealistic.

If you're a top 10 players whose ultimate goal is to play in the NBA, would you rather play for a coach that has coached Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Durant, etc... or one who hasn't? Puhleeeeeease.

So you have met Coach K? Know him personally. Were you in on the conversations asking him to stay. And maybe you can provide a link of them begging Dean. I don't recall. I also recall some opposing fans laughing at Duke in the mid 2000's saying how it was hurting Duke with all the time he spent with USA basketball. But you seem to have inside info so I will just believe what you say.

 

[Archer2]

You don't have to believe anything. Is the LOM a grown man or not? Does he not have the ability to decline an offer to coach a team? I believe he does. Spin it any way you want. He continues to do it because of his massive ego and the recruiting advantages it provides him. I'll repeat my simple question since you seem to want to ignore it.

If you're a top 10 player whose ultimate goal is to play in the NBA, would you rather play for a coach that has coached Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Durant, etc... or one who hasn't?

 

[heelbent]

The dook pile signed up to argue. He's done.

 

[Sk1310]

So you have met Coach K? Know him personally. Were you in on the conversations asking him to stay. And maybe you can provide a link of them begging Dean. I don't recall. I also recall some opposing fans laughing at Duke in the mid 2000's saying how it was hurting Duke with all the time he spent with USA basketball. But you seem to have inside info so I will just believe what you say.

What a garbage post. Do you have inside info? Do you know K personally? If not, stop talking like you know everything thats going on. To think K doesnt enjoy the recruiting advantage is embarrassing.

 

[tw3301]

You don't have to believe anything. Is the LOM a grown man or not? Does he not have the ability to decline an offer to coach a team? I believe he does. Spin it any way you want. He continues to do it because of his massive ego and the recruiting advantages it provides him. I'll repeat my simple question since you seem to want to ignore it.

If you're a top 10 player whose ultimate goal is to play in the NBA, would you rather play for a coach that has coached Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Durant, etc... or one who hasn't?

When K took over he wasn't recruiting well until about 2010, during that time it was considered a disadvantage. Now he is recruiting well and it is considered an advantage. IMO it no doubt helps his perception with recruits, when he can walk into a living room and say he's coached players like the ones you listed it probably does resonate with some of the kids. I of course don't believe that is the sole reason he is coaching but I'm a Duke fan, I understand why UNC fans would see it the other way. I believe he sees it as an honor, he's a West Point grad and Army vet who is very patriotic. That being said he's not a saint and I'm sure he takes full advantage of the situation, which any great coach would. I guess I just don't see it as some kind of an abuse the way you guys do but that probably has to do with each of our perspectives.

 

[TRU CANE]

Coach K was asked to return for a reason and I'm glad he accepted the invitation. He's a West Point graduate, it's important to him to represent his country. It's embedded in him. It was a great decision and honor not only for himself but for the USA basketball program, the young men he's guided, Duke University and all of us. Yes including you proud North Carolina Tarheels. POP is the exceptional choice and if POP wasn't going to be the guy before then I'm even more happy K stayed to bridge the gap. He is leaving that program in great shape and we ALL should be proud as Americans. I know I basically said that already but it should be reiterated

 

[dadika13]

He is leaving that program in great shape and we ALL should be proud as Americans. I know I basically said that already but it should be reiterated

So Duke fans think we should be proud Americans because of K? Forget those George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abe Lincoln guys...PRAISE K!

 

[coryfly]

I have no issues with K taking advantage of it. Most coaches would. I wish he didn't have the chance but he did so you can't blame him for using it. I would love to see Roy involved but I don't think it is something he is interested in, especially not at his age.

 

[tw3301]

So Duke fans think we should be proud Americans because of K? Forget those George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abe Lincoln guys...PRAISE K!

I'm pretty sure what he meant is that we should all be proud of what USA basketball has accomplished under K, as Americans. He's not saying anyone should praise him.

 

[TRU CANE]

I'm pretty sure what he meant is that we should all be proud of what USA basketball has accomplished under K, as Americans. He's not saying anyone should praise him.

Correct. The Program is in outstanding shape. It's running like a machine. Be proud of it. Don't look down on it or diminish it because K had a lot to do with it.

 

[dadika13]

Correct. The Program is in outstanding shape. It's running like a machine. Be proud of it. Don't look down on it or diminish it because K had a lot to do with it.

Sorry, but I'm going to say Kobe, Lebron, Melo, Durant, Wade, Bosh, etc. had "a lot to do with it." And if we're talking off the court, I'm giving Jerry Colangelo more credit than K also.

 

[RoseHeel]

Tbh, i dont understand why ppl think K shouldnt take advantage of the opportunity. We live in a world designed on having an unfair advantage, then complain when someone uses them?

Moving closer to the point at hand, The selection committee for team USA clearly feels that K is the best coach for the job, and he does have the medals/record to prove it. And is the goal not to utilize the best the country can provide? Why break what isn't broken?
Should the same be asked for the players who also return every year?

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Agreed. Is it an unfair recruiting advantage? Absolutely. Can you blame him for taking advantage of it? No.

But let's not quote the records/medals as some sort of proof that he deserves the job. If anyone thinks that me, you, or anyone else on this board couldn't have coached this team to a Gold... you're sadly mistaken. A basketball could coach this team to a Gold.

 

[Sk1310]

A monkey can coach this team, and his prior 2 teams and win gold. I mean seriously?

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Coleangelo and our National committee saved UNC basketball when they changed the rule and insisted on peeps making a 3 year commitment to the team to be considered in the beginning. I never doubt that ratty is a patriot, most West Point grads are. This point has no bearing on the topic at hand. I acknowledge that ratty is a great coach, so what? Both red herrings used to cover up for the fact that ratty should have passed the mantle to other coaches way before now! It is a tremendous advantage and I have no problem with any coach taking advantage of it anyway; I simply point out that DES and Roy are also great coaches, but they are also great human beings! Both would have passed the mantle on in the interest of fairness and this is without question.

I also can't believe the total waste of skin one must be to go to the trouble of signing up on an opponent's site just to argue...pathetic!

 

[DSouthr]

I think we should name a permanent national coach and have it be his exclusive and primary gig. I don't like the pick a coach round robin deal and I do not think a college coach should be the guy.

As for a team, I would like to see us develop a national team rather than cobble together All Star teams of NBA guys. Why not take guys just leaving the NBA, guys that would either be retiring or finishing out their playing days in Europe and form a team that stays together, like many of our other Olympic sports. The rest of the worlds talent would catch up to us because we would not have the very best but they would play more as a team. Imagine a team that had guys like Ray Allen, VC, Rasheed, Tim Duncan. Guys done with the NBA but that still have some milage left that they could play a much liter schedule and be a member of America's team. They could scrimmage against the NBADL and maybe some NBADL guys that do not make it to the NBA would like to join team USA. .

 

[DSouthr]

Coleangelo and our National committee saved UNC basketball when they changed the rule and insisted on peeps making a 3 year commitment to the team to be considered in the beginning. I never doubt that ratty is a patriot, most West Point grads are. This point has no bearing on the topic at hand. I acknowledge that ratty is a great coach, so what? Both red herrings used to cover up for the fact that ratty should have passed the mantle to other coaches way before now! It is a tremendous advantage and I have no problem with any coach taking advantage of it anyway; I simply point out that DES and Roy are also great coaches, but they are also great human beings! Both would have passed the mantle on in the interest of fairness and this is without question.

I also can't believe the total waste of skin one must be to go to the trouble of signing up on an opponent's site just to argue...pathetic!

"Coleangelo and our National committee saved UNC basketball when they changed the rule and insisted on peeps making a 3 year commitment to the team to be considered in the beginning"

^ I think you intended to say the committee saved the national team and not UNC basketball. Honestly, I think what saved team USA was the players coming together wanting to drive home the point that the greatest players on the planet are Americans. I don't think that gets near the credit it deserves, what the players banding together did. I think the organization and the coaching staff get way to much of the credit.

I think American players and specifically lebron, Durant, Mello took America's teams not winning gold as an insult, as a wrong that must be righted.

MAJOR KUDOS TO CARMELLO ANTHONY!!! The best of the best all stars other than Mello and Durant elected to pass this time, I guess they felt they proved all they needed to. But this is Olympics #4 for Mello and he has taken this team under his wing and is the unquestioned leader. I really feel Mello enjoys representing his country in that true Olympic spirit than any player he has played with during his 4 Olympic teams experience.

 

[Archer2]

I think we should name a permanent national coach and have it be his exclusive and primary gig. I don't like the pick a coach round robin deal and I do not think a college coach should be the guy.

As for a team, I would like to see us develop a national team rather than cobble together All Star teams of NBA guys. Why not take guys just leaving the NBA, guys that would either be retiring or finishing out their playing days in Europe and form a team that stays together, like many of our other Olympic sports. The rest of the worlds talent would catch up to us because we would not have the very best but they would play more as a team. Imagine a team that had guys like Ray Allen, VC, Rasheed, Tim Duncan. Guys done with the NBA but that still have some milage left that they could play a much liter schedule and be a member of America's team. They could scrimmage against the NBADL and maybe some NBADL guys that do not make it to the NBA would like to join team USA. .

Not a bad idea. I don't mind college coaches coaching the team but it should be a one time deal, not a multiyear recruiting advantage like K has made it. Our aged veterans would still be more talented than any other team.

 

[dadika13]

Correct. The Program is in outstanding shape. It's running like a machine. Be proud of it. Don't look down on it or diminish it because K had a lot to do with it.

Still feel like the program is in outstanding shape? 3 gross games against competition that isn't great.

 

[TRU CANE]

Still feel like the program is in outstanding shape? 3 gross games against competition that isn't great.

I'm definitely disappointed with the play of the last three games. Especially defensively. As far as those teams not being, I think the referenced teams are very good. Individual talent? No comparison but the ball movement is amazing. Still the PROGRAM is in outstanding shape but things can always get better. I hope Pop takes it to another level , more specifically come up with a better way to construct the teams so that the parts are less difficult to mesh

 

[DaSheed]

Last time Roy was on the staff for USA basketball was 2004. Roy has been battling health issues. Can't see him coaching anything other than UNC until he calls it quits.

 

[dadika13]

Last time Roy was on the staff for USA basketball was 2004. Roy has been battling health issues. Can't see him coaching anything other than UNC until he calls it quits.

Yeah, no chance Roy coaches team USA. Our next coach, Shaka Smart, should be somewhere near the top of the list for the gig though.

 

[DSouthr]

I'm definitely disappointed with the play of the last three games. Especially defensively. As far as those teams not being, I think the referenced teams are very good. Individual talent? No comparison but the ball movement is amazing. Still the PROGRAM is in outstanding shape but things can always get better. I hope Pop takes it to another level , more specifically come up with a better way to construct the teams so that the parts are less difficult to mesh

Team USA was blowing out teams earlier but they played the worst available teams to play rather than test themselves against stronger competition. Now that sounds familiar, doesn't that sound familiar for a particular coach of a particular program?

Seriously, it is a really bad look for this "super team" to be playing such close nail biters vs much lesser talented teams. Problem is those other country programs have more "EXPERIENCE" playing this format, playing with that ball, and playing together as a team. A collections of all stars being challenged by more experienced teams that play together. Kind of a snap shot look at the whole one & done program going on in the NCAA.

There is a correlation in my opinion, the coach that has embraced the one & done in college embraces a similar all star out talent the opposition method with team USA. I think the question becomes just how much does the experienced team need to be out talented before they can be competitive? How far does the talent gap have to be?

 

[Calabrias Inferno]

We've won 5 of the 6 Olympics since NBA players joined. I'll take the talented players all day over "experienced" players on the international level.

Paul George summed it up best after the Serbia game, "We just have to start getting some movement. We're relying on our natural talent so much. It's so easy to guard us. Teams are just loading up and watching us play one-on-one." As any coach or player knows, the easiest offense to guard is one where the ball isn't moving - the defense is already set. Ideally, players on offense won't stand in the same spot longer than 2-3 seconds - but that clearly isn't happening. If we can cut out the ISO ball by about 95%, I'll feel 95% better about our chances.

 

[MWHeels]

I would love to see Roy have the opportunity to coach the team after Popovich. If it's not Roy, I wouldn't mind seeing Brad Stevens take the job.

 

[dadika13]

I would love to see Roy have the opportunity to coach the team after Popovich. If it's not Roy, I wouldn't mind seeing Brad Stevens take the job.

Say what? After Pop? You realize Roy would be like 74 by the 2024 Olympics right? Zero point zero zero zero chance Roy coaches that team.

Stevens or Shaka would be my choice for a long term hire.

 

[Sk1310]

Say what? After Pop? You realize Roy would be like 74 by the 2024 Olympics right? Zero point zero zero zero chance Roy coaches that team.

Stevens or Shaka would be my choice for a long term hire.

Actually I would hope Stevens or Shaka had the respect to give other coaches an opportunity, and not make it long term. Before K, only 1 other person was the HC for more than 1 Olympics.

 

[DSouthr]

I DO NOT WANT ROY TO COACH TEAM USA!!!

Look, if we can agree that it is to much of an advantage for a college coach to be the Team USA head coach then it should not be a college coach tapped for the gig. If K should not be allowed to have that extra advantage then it should not be allowed for ANY college coach, including Roy. Point is the advantage should not exist, not who should get the advantage.

 

[MWHeels]

Actually I would hope Stevens or Shaka had the respect to give other coaches an opportunity, and not make it long term. Before K, only 1 other person was the HC for more than 1 Olympics.

I agree. There should be a different coach for each Olympics. I doubt Pop will stay on after 2020.

 

[tarfoot]

They begged Dean to return as well but he declined, stating that he'd had his chance and that honor should be shared with other coaches. Would it have been so hard to say "Thanks, but no thanks?" But then again, he wasn't the egomaniac the LOM is. He knows it gives him a huge recruiting advantage to coach the USA team and he's used it to his great advantage. Denying this is just being unrealistic.

If you're a top 10 players whose ultimate goal is to play in the NBA, would you rather play for a coach that has coached Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Durant, etc... or one who hasn't? Puhleeeeeease.

BS!

 

[Sk1310]

BS!

Doing a little research isnt hard before claiming BS. Its actually quite true

 

[alabamaheel]

I know Stephen A Smith is not a fan fav for all, but just saw a video of his take on k coaching for the Olympic team. wish I knew how to put on here. A little help from a tech savvy peep please. On espn, ncaa, basketball.

 

[venom660turbo]

Here is the link

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=17366225

 

[WhatTheHeel?]

As for a team, I would like to see us develop a national team rather than cobble together All Star teams of NBA guys.

We kind of do have a national team.