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Portal Opens Monday, Expect Movement Around UNC

Purdue is starting 5 kids that all committed to Purdue out of high school.

I'm not sure what the purpose of me making the above statement was. Maybe just to point out how jealous we all should be of the enormous sense of pride Boilermaker fans have knowing that. And maybe to harken back to the days when CBB was enjoyable. Let's say we get the best players money can buy in the portal and we go on to win the title next year. Yay? We're so proud of these guys who we just met? They really represented the program in the 5 months I was watching? I am filled with excitement and joy because this group of basketball players came together and won...with Carolina jerseys on!

It's a disaster. No other way to put it. So frankly, I'm not sure how much longer I can act like I care that we are drifting off into the abyss.
I feel your pain man but I’ve had to ask myself would I rather win by paying and it not be like the “Carolina way” or would I rather them lose but do things “the right way”. Winning is the easy choice for me. It’s always cured things and it will be no different for UNC. I will say this, I’m at a diff time of life with age and family dynamics than when my love for all things sports was blazing. I honestly don’t know if my apathy is from the state of all the changes in sports, or just my honing in on what’s important in life.
 
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Hope someone is on the phone with this guy….
He can really go. High usage combo PG so kind of the opposite of Cadeau. He will turn the ball over sometimes because the ball is in his hands so much.

I think a player like him gives you some flexibility elsewhere.

If Cadeau isn't here next year, that's the type of player I'd prefer. I don't think going pass first PG to another probably less good pass first PG is the right process.
 
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I'm probably more guilty for being more part of that crowd. Hypothetically, I think they could've gotten a better head coach than Hubert at the time Roy retired. The portal and NIL was still newer at the time and I think that was a better time to go in a different direction.

It obviously wasn't realistic. Roy was going to pick his guy and that's sometimes how these things work. Of course the book isn't finished on Hubert so we'll see what happens once all the excuses go away. But that was a better time to do something new if they wanted to. It's probably going to be harder now and will take making someone the highest paid coach in the sport, or something equally as drastic.


I remember when Roy Williams retired... the general consensus then was that no one- no one that was a ringer -would even want to leave their meal ticket and come to a high-pressure job like UNC Basketball. All of the usual suspects- Brad Stevens, blah-blah-blah. It was never an option. Allegedly, Nate Oats offered? None of that is proven, just rumors. I don't believe he ever wanted the job. I also don't believe that getting these high dollar coaches is even likely, let alone easy.

Maybe UNC caught a leprechaun and can buy anyone they want, now.
 
The system is completely f*cked. We have kids who haven't proven sh*t auctioning themselves off to the highest bidder on an annual basis. For college sports. That's not a broken system?
Amen!

The "system" is ruining its own product for consumption.

The tournaments will get less and less exciting. The source of the "Tradition" aspect that has given college sports its ultimate appeal, for generations, is gone.
 
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Amen!

The "system" is ruining its own product for consumption.

The tournaments will get less and less exciting. The source of the "Tradition" aspect that has given college sports its ultimate appeal, for generations, is gone.
As long as people gamble, the tournament will have its appeal. That's always been the tournaments biggest appeal. Filling out brackets, participating in pools, and gambling.

We're beginning to see less true Cinderellas in the tournament. And this makes sense. Once a mid major kid is good enough, they'll be poached. So we're not going to have a power mid-major team that's kind of dangerous every year because they always have juniors/seniors who have played together for 3+ seasons. Not sure if that will be a problem. As much as people romantacize about a 12 making a Final Four, TV ratings have always shown that people will watch Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas over a Final Four that has a Cinderella.

Side point, I think eventually the Power 5 schools will go independent and create their own league. And it wouldn't surprise me if it happens sooner rather than later (within the next 10 years). So essentially, the top 60 schools lets say will branch off and create their own league.

If anyone follows European soccer, the big teams (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man United, etc) tried to do that. The fans revolted and essentially threatened the lives of the owners of those teams. But that's eventually going to happen in that sport, which is somewhat similarly run to college basketball where there's an NCAA Tournament style event called The Champions League where the best 3-4 teams from all of the European leagues play in a tournament. It isn't single elimination. The tournament is awesome and I love it. But from the perspective of Read Madrid, it doesn't help them to play some Turkish team that no one has heard of.

I think the Super League is going to come to college basketball in some capacity.
 
As long as people gamble, the tournament will have its appeal. That's always been the tournaments biggest appeal. Filling out brackets, participating in pools, and gambling.

We're beginning to see less true Cinderellas in the tournament. And this makes sense. Once a mid major kid is good enough, they'll be poached. So we're not going to have a power mid-major team that's kind of dangerous every year because they always have juniors/seniors who have played together for 3+ seasons. Not sure if that will be a problem. As much as people romantacize about a 12 making a Final Four, TV ratings have always shown that people will watch Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas over a Final Four that has a Cinderella.

Side point, I think eventually the Power 5 schools will go independent and create their own league. And it wouldn't surprise me if it happens sooner rather than later (within the next 10 years). So essentially, the top 60 schools lets say will branch off and create their own league.

If anyone follows European soccer, the big teams (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man United, etc) tried to do that. The fans revolted and essentially threatened the lives of the owners of those teams. But that's eventually going to happen in that sport, which is somewhat similarly run to college basketball where there's an NCAA Tournament style event called The Champions League where the best 3-4 teams from all of the European leagues play in a tournament. It isn't single elimination. The tournament is awesome and I love it. But from the perspective of Read Madrid, it doesn't help them to play some Turkish team that no one has heard of.

I think the Super League is going to come to college basketball in some capacity.
Gamblers can always find things to gamble on. I'm talking about the overall appeal of college sports in American culture. For most of my life, I always heard from people who were my elders, "I love college sports over pro sports because the players aren't getting paid... they play for their love of the school and program." That was the "soil" of college sports, as far as I ever knew.

I guess it can evolve and survive, but I'm not completely sure it will. Only time will tell if it will. College sports was always, in my opinion, as much of a contrast to pro sports as it was a companion. Some people just like to wear the clothes and cheer. They're not going anywhere. But, the thing that made college sports unique, is gone.
 
I 1000 percent expected him to bounce, with how much his mom was complaining on twitter. Not for nothing he was over rated, couldn’t shoot and was not nearly as good of a passer as some people on this board made him out to be before he got here. That all being said next year has the potential to be historically bad if Powell and Jackson both leave, wonder if Wilson is having second thoughts and we have a coach that can’t coach lmao things not looking to great for us at the moment
 
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Jalen "Next Kevin Garnett" Washington has also entered the portal. If this is Hubert's doing I'll at least know he's serious about trying to upgrade the roster
 
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I don't think we can assume that Cadeau CHOSE to leave us. He said after Ole Miss that his desire was return.

Maybe keep that in mind before we pile on the young man?
 
I don't think we can assume that Cadeau CHOSE to leave us. He said after Ole Miss that his desire was return.

Maybe keep that in mind before we pile on the young man?
Yea, I don't have any info at all. Quite frankly, I'm too lazy to keep up with all of the information. But before the season started, Hubert said Elliot Cadeau would be "unrecognizable" this season. For someone who is overtly optimistic publicly, Hubert was the most publicly optimistic about Cadeau's development. So he saw something in the offseason and I can't imagine this is the season he was thinking for Cadeau.

I might be reading into it a lot. But what Hubert said about Cadeau before the season started always stuck with me. I didn't really take it seriously because no one ever says a player got worse in the offseason, lol. But the level of optimism seemed different for Cadeau than the rest of the players IMO.
 
EC showed flashes of brilliance...and too much stupidity. It was maddening at times when his casual passes and lack of bball iq overwhelmed his good play. His outside shot was wildly inconsistent.....and you just wondered if he was totally involved in the game. I wish him well wherever he ends up.
 
Painter is 1 year away from a Final Four, but two years away from losing to a 16 seed. Historically, he hasn't been a strong coach in March.
 
Hopefully it's St. Johns. If he thought he had it bad here, Rick Pitino just benched his best player in a tournament game.
Pitino wil not be as patient as Hubert was with the kid.

Oh, but there was no tampering going on? LOL
 
Pitino wil not be as patient as Hubert was with the kid.

Oh, but there was no tampering going on? LOL
I am of the opinion that if EC goes to St Johns, Pitino will not be patient with him, will work him hard, and will get the best out of him.... or he'll be benched.
 
I am of the opinion that if EC goes to St Johns, Pitino will not be patient with him, will work him hard, and will get the best out of him.... or he'll be benched.
I believe the vast majority of successful coaches command respect and coach their players hard. Uncle Hubert appears to be too easy on the players and more of a friend than a coach. I think they like him but I’m not sure they respect him to the point of doing what he says.
 
I believe the vast majority of successful coaches command respect and coach their players hard. Uncle Hubert appears to be too easy on the players and more of a friend than a coach. I think they like him but I’m not sure they respect him to the point of doing what he says.

Very fair IMO
 
No system problem. This seems normal. Carry on.
The system is effed up by design. They had 5 to 10 years knowing there was no base to win on the system they ran for the billion dollar industry, and they kicked the can down the road as long as they could to just siphon all of the billions into their control, instead of working with it.

When they finally had to stop, ran out of road to kick the issue and pay the workers, nothing in place. The big boy conferences have it worked out for the next step now. Wild west, yearly till then, because they said eff it we are taking all of it until we can't.

Trust me the big schools are ready, that is why the ACC deal is so detrimental to play with the big boys now.
 
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