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Power rank coaches you DON’T want

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of the current guys out there, gimme your top five that you don’t want in chapel hill.

urban meyer
greg schiano
lovie smith
paul johnson
fedora
 
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I despise Urban Meyer. He's a hypocritical twat. I still remember him going on ESPN and claiming players using marijuana was the biggest moral issue in college sports.

Yeah the biggest issue... aside from scumbag coaches who protect wife beaters.

So yeah he's definitely number 1 for me too.
 
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Considering that a writer for TOS that I know has connections to football boosters with power says they want a new HC to be D-focused, the name I start with on the NO list is Greg Schiano. He was a DC under Davis at Miami and built Rutgers on D and the RBs. But his time has passed.

And it was a one-time thing. Rutgers rose when Syracuse was way down and Penn St was struggling because JoePa's age and Pitt was terribly inconsistent and WVU was recruiting preponderantly in the South.
 
Considering that a writer for TOS that I know has connections to football boosters with power says they want a new HC to be D-focused, the name I start with on the NO list is Greg Schiano. He was a DC under Davis at Miami and built Rutgers on D and the RBs. But his time has passed.

And it was a one-time thing. Rutgers rose when Syracuse was way down and Penn St was struggling because JoePa's age and Pitt was terribly inconsistent and WVU was recruiting preponderantly in the South.

"D-focused" immediately makes me think about Venables.
 
Lovie Smith was also a DC, but his IL program is so bad he surely wouldn't be considered even for DC.
 
Me too. And he and Kevin Wilson were coordinators at OU together. Venables with Wilson as OC and Thigpen as Recruiting Coordinator would be a nice package.

That would be a legit staff. We could potentially compete for conference titles and playoff berths with that group.
 
That would be a legit staff. We could potentially compete for conference titles and playoff berths with that group.
Yep. And that is what we want.

A 1st-time HC is better off if he has at least 1 coordinator who has been HC. And Wilson is a UNC alum who coached with Venables. Thigpen heading up recruiting under those guys would become a beast. He'd be reeling in players, and not just NC and VA guys.
 
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Yep. And that is what we want.

A 1st-time HC is better off if he has at least 1 coordinator who has been HC. And Wilson is a UNC alum who coached with Venables. Thigpen heading up recruiting under those guys would become a beast. He'd be reeling in players, and not just NC and VA guys.
I’m afraid the chances of this happening are slim to none. Venables is probably one of the highest paid DC’s in the country. His HC salary would have to be exhorbitant by our standards, especially with Fed’s buyout.
 
Bubba dug a deep dollar hole and it will not be an easy climb out.
Forget any "big name", we just can't afford it.
Satterfield is reasonable, in that we need LOCAL ties in recruiting. Bubba didn't realize that Larry's abrasive attitude would turn-off the high school coaches in the south.
 
Bubba dug a deep dollar hole and it will not be an easy climb out.
Forget any "big name", we just can't afford it.
Satterfield is reasonable, in that we need LOCAL ties in recruiting. Bubba didn't realize that Larry's abrasive attitude would turn-off the high school coaches in the south.
We don't need local ties. Doeren had no ties to NC and with the exception of one year had no ties to the southeast. Many people here think he's a superior coach and recruiter, so he would prove it doesn't matter. It's all about building relationships and having the right attitude. You are correct that Larry didn't seem to have the type of relationship he needs to have with the coaches though.
 
We don't need local ties. Doeren had no ties to NC and with the exception of one year had no ties to the southeast. Many people here think he's a superior coach and recruiter, so he would prove it doesn't matter. It's all about building relationships and having the right attitude. You are correct that Larry didn't seem to have the type of relationship he needs to have with the coaches though.
Here is one of the first things that HS coaches from NC and bordering states think when Satterfield is mentioned: he's taken a bunch of 2* and some 1* recruits from the region and made them a ranked D1 team. We trust our players with him because he discerns unheralded talent and he develops talent rather than wasting it.
 
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Here is one of the first things that HS coaches from NC and bordering states think when Satterfield is mentioned: he's taken a bunch of 2* and some 1* recruits from the region and made them a ranked D1 team. We trust our players with him because he discerns unheralded talent and he develops talent rather than wasting it.
That's certainly possible, but a coach can have a good reputation with no current ties to the state. I think there is zero chance Bob Stoops would come here, but no rational person would discount him because he doesn't have NC ties. Having assistants that know the area are far more valuable. They are the ones who actually build the relationships and spend the most time interacting with HS coaches. The head coach just needs to show his face a few times a year and have a good attitude.
 
We don't need local ties. Doeren had no ties to NC and with the exception of one year had no ties to the southeast. Many people here think he's a superior coach and recruiter, so he would prove it doesn't matter. It's all about building relationships and having the right attitude. You are correct that Larry didn't seem to have the type of relationship he needs to have with the coaches though.

Yeah, Doeren isn't even recruiting the state that well til the last two seasons.

Previously his recruiting was 100% luck via QB, partial luck of DL. Take away their DL and QB and they'd suck.

I say 100% luck for QB because he got all of his qb's off the xfer market. Jacoby Brissett, Ryan Finley, etc - both really good college QBs. And now they're getting transfer qb from FSU. Maybe that isn't luck, just good timing. So many other times and places grad xfer QBs don't work out.

Regarding DL, their 2014 DL class wound-up badass. Kudos for landing Kentavious Street, local 4* in his second recruiting class. This gives promise that an outsider can recruit here.

But Justin Jones, Bradley Chubb and BJ Hill were part luck, part non-local.
3* BJ Hill wanted to come here, but at 260 lbs we declined, wound up with Jeremiah Clarke, Tyler Powell (2 sacks vs Cuse was nice to see finally). Who knew that BJ Hill would add 50 lbs easily? ECU was his only other offer. He wasn't a hidden gym stolen by NCSU... it was just genetic luck that he wound up so massive.

3* Bradley Chubb, Nick Chubbs cousin from hotbed of ATL wasn't a hidden gym, he was just a tweener without many offers. Genetics helped him add 50+ pounds while gaining speed. There are tons of 3* tweeners every yr like him, not all grow the way he did due to genes.

4* Justin Jones was from georgia, like Chubb. Nice recruit, but not local.

So while recruiting NC is important, I think x&o's and overall recruiting ability regardless of your locale is much more important than having pre-established ties to NC.
 
of the current guys out there, gimme your top five that you don’t want in chapel hill.

urban meyer
greg schiano
lovie smith
paul johnson
fedora
no thanks on everyone but Shiano I guess. Petrino would be a fun addition here for a 6th.
 
I don't want a coach without P5 experience, I'm hoping one with experience wants to come here.

I would take Urban Meyer, and any other coach that would win. Winning is a more important characteristic of a head football coach than good morals, for me.
 
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