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Predict the ACC Regular Season Finish

What Would Jesus Do?

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Here are the current Pomeroy projections. I trust this falls within fair use guidelines.

How would you arrange them (with or without predicted W-L records)?

13-5 - Duke
13-5 - Virginia
13-5 - UNC
13-5 - Louisville

12-8 - Clemson
12-8 - Notre Dame

9-9 - FSU
9-9 - Miami
9-9 - Va Tech

8-10 - Wake Forest
8-10 - Syracuse

7-11 - Pitt
7-11 - NC State

4-14 - Ga Tech

2-16 - Boston College
 
Here are the current Pomeroy projections. I trust this falls within fair use guidelines.

How would you arrange them (with or without predicted W-L records)?

13-5 - Duke
13-5 - Virginia
13-5 - UNC
13-5 - Louisville

12-8 - Clemson
12-8 - Notre Dame

9-9 - FSU
9-9 - Miami
9-9 - Va Tech

8-10 - Wake Forest
8-10 - Syracuse

7-11 - Pitt
7-11 - NC State

4-14 - Ga Tech

2-16 - Boston College

1) Duke, that talent will show itself, lack of a true PG is a limiting factor and right now they have some chemistry issues but K will get those straightened out and it will become a UNC vs duke for the regular season.

2) UNC, we seem to fade a little on our second trip thru the ACC slate and duke seems to get stronger at that same time.

3) Louisville, they just seem to over achieve, they lost to much to be really good but they did just beat Ky so you have to take note.

4) UVa, losing their big man was a huge blow but no matter what UVa comes to defend you and control tempo and they are really good at that. They also have some really good 3pt shooters and that keeps them in a close game.

5) FSU, I always over estimate them because they hit you with such length and while they play us and duke hard they seem to drop a lot of head scratcher games. Poor guard play but that height across that team, not just starters but multiple 7ft guys off that bench I think can be over powering, they have 1st place talent and last place coaching IMO, so 5th may be about right.

6) NC State, lot of youth but has some size and Dennis Smith is for real plus I am not totally sold the rest, maybe ND takes this spot.

7) ND, close between them and NC State

8& 9) Syracuse and Clemson, put them where ya want

Rest, really, who cares...
 
1) Duke, that talent will show itself, lack of a true PG is a limiting factor and right now they have some chemistry issues but K will get those straightened out and it will become a UNC vs duke for the regular season.

2) UNC, we seem to fade a little on our second trip thru the ACC slate and duke seems to get stronger at that same time.

3) Louisville, they just seem to over achieve, they lost to much to be really good but they did just beat Ky so you have to take note.

4) UVa, losing their big man was a huge blow but no matter what UVa comes to defend you and control tempo and they are really good at that. They also have some really good 3pt shooters and that keeps them in a close game.

5) FSU, I always over estimate them because they hit you with such length and while they play us and duke hard they seem to drop a lot of head scratcher games. Poor guard play but that height across that team, not just starters but multiple 7ft guys off that bench I think can be over powering, they have 1st place talent and last place coaching IMO, so 5th may be about right.

6) NC State, lot of youth but has some size and Dennis Smith is for real plus I am not totally sold the rest, maybe ND takes this spot.

7) ND, close between them and NC State

8& 9) Syracuse and Clemson, put them where ya want

Rest, really, who cares...
Very close to my thinking.

I'd move NC State ahead of FSU. This time I'm going to play FSU to disappoint. Which probably means this is the time they won't disappoint. I'm in "fool me three times, shame on me" mode with Hamilton's teams.

What I don't understand is how Hamilton can keep getting good talent. His teams often under-perform and they tend to play ugly, defense-oriented ball that doesn't showcase talent very well.

What's Hamilton's pitch? "Come play for me and I'll make sure you look bad to the scouts." How can that land good recruits?

Now that State has Rowan healthy and Yurtseven and Kapita on the roster, I expect them to start looking very good. But does Gott know what to do with them?

They have a 10-2 record and their losses aren't bad ones (Creighton and Illinois). But they have struggled against some mediocre teams. With a core of Smith, Dorin, Henderson and Abu, that shouldn't have happened. Rowan provides the depth they need at wing. Yurtseven and Kapita provide the depth they need up front. This really ought to turn into a very good team. But will they?

I'm surprised that Syracuse has so many losses already. I expect they'll shape up. They're 7-5 and that includes 2 losses that should never happen.

Syracuse has all the right ingredients and a solid coach. They should get better.

I feel like Notre Dame is really overachieving. But when I think about it, ever since they came to the ACC they seem to be overachieving. Maybe Brey is the mirror image of Hamilton. Whereas we should count on Hamilton to underachieve, maybe we should count on Brey to overachieve. They seem too short and too slow to be that good, yet they gave Villanova and Purdue tough games.

I notice that the polls have Va Tech in the "just missed" group and Pomeroy also rates them decent. I still don't think they have enough talent, but it will be a good test for Buzz.

Duke
UNC
Louisville
NC State
UVa
Syracuse
FSU
ND
Clemson
Miami
Va Tech
Wake
Ga Tech
BC
 
Very close to my thinking.

I'd move NC State ahead of FSU. This time I'm going to play FSU to disappoint. Which probably means this is the time they won't disappoint. I'm in "fool me three times, shame on me" mode with Hamilton's teams.

What I don't understand is how Hamilton can keep getting good talent. His teams often under-perform and they tend to play ugly, defense-oriented ball that doesn't showcase talent very well.

What's Hamilton's pitch? "Come play for me and I'll make sure you look bad to the scouts." How can that land good recruits?

Now that State has Rowan healthy and Yurtseven and Kapita on the roster, I expect them to start looking very good. But does Gott know what to do with them?

They have a 10-2 record and their losses aren't bad ones (Creighton and Illinois). But they have struggled against some mediocre teams. With a core of Smith, Dorin, Henderson and Abu, that shouldn't have happened. Rowan provides the depth they need at wing. Yurtseven and Kapita provide the depth they need up front. This really ought to turn into a very good team. But will they?

I'm surprised that Syracuse has so many losses already. I expect they'll shape up. They're 7-5 and that includes 2 losses that should never happen.

Syracuse has all the right ingredients and a solid coach. They should get better.

I feel like Notre Dame is really overachieving. But when I think about it, ever since they came to the ACC they seem to be overachieving. Maybe Brey is the mirror image of Hamilton. Whereas we should count on Hamilton to underachieve, maybe we should count on Brey to overachieve. They seem too short and too slow to be that good, yet they gave Villanova and Purdue tough games.

I notice that the polls have Va Tech in the "just missed" group and Pomeroy also rates them decent. I still don't think they have enough talent, but it will be a good test for Buzz.

Duke
UNC
Louisville
NC State
UVa
Syracuse
FSU
ND
Clemson
Miami
Va Tech
Wake
Ga Tech
BC

I will not argue against one bit of what you offered because you could well be closer to the fact than I am. With the wuffies, just not much more impressed with their coach than I am Hamilton, they both seem to find a way to under achieve and I think Hamilton has way to much talent to be as under achieving as they have been but he and the wuffies just seem to find a way to wet the bed so I figure they will keep on wetting it. LOL

Great point about Mike Brey, that is a grossly under estimated guy, MUCH better coach than he gets credit for and I think Buzz will be considered a great coach one day. It would not hurt my feelings at all for either of those 2 guys to be named our head coach when Roy does hang them up, if that tells you how I see them both. I just don't see either of them having the talent levels they need to move out the middle of the pack, either team on any given day can beat any other ACC team however, don't under estimate them as coaches.

Syracuse, great coach but their defense, much like UVa is hard for teams that do not see it a lot to handle, league teams are beginning to figure out how to play them but it is not easy. UVa, just by Bennett shear ability to teach his defense quickly to newer guys IMO makes them harder to handle. He is really a plug and play coach, system coach that does not need super stars to still win a lot of games.
 
UNC_ _ Best all around team, and we have Roy.
d00k_ _ Most talented team, great coach.
UofL_ _ Always play great defense, very good coach.
UVA_ _ Always play great defense, very good coach.
ND_ _ Underrated coach, gets a lot out of his talent.
FSU_ _ Overrated coach, fails to maximize his talent almost yearly.
VT_ _ Very good coach, really like Buzz.
NVSU_ _ Very talented team but "Gottfired" will find a way to screw them up.
etc...
 
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