Rasheed Sulaimon's mother discusses her son's dismissal from Duke

[Steat]

Very telling article.

Sulaimon was a brat on the court and you will find very few Tar Heel fans that liked the guy. I hated him as player and still do. The kid has to blame himself for a lot of his problems, but the following comment by his mother to the Baltimore Sun is very telling:

“Rasheed just won’t break the code,” Angela Sulaimon said in an interview Monday with The Baltimore Sun. “Certain things he won’t say because he’s afraid of what might happen.”

Duke has the big advantage of being a private school and it's hard to penetrate the "Berlin Wall" when problems are reported. One of these days the Berlin Wall is coming down.

"Break the code"..... it figures. Well, look at this way. We have the "Carolina Way" and Duke has "The Code".
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...son-s-dismissal-from-duke-20151021-story.html

 

[coryfly]

There have definitely been a few instances where it at least seems (and I know that is subjective) like K hasn't always treated every one of his players in perhaps the way he should have. Regardless, most of those players have also had a hand in that. I think K is a little more businesslike than some. It has worked for him though.

 

[keysersosay#1]

Ya know there is so much crap that goes on in that program with Vader at the top. The Lance Thomas scam is just the tip of the iceberg IMO and this kid is AFRAID to speak out...


No One does anything about it, no one says anything, no one investigates. The faculty and admin are TOTALLY and completely silent and intimidated on Thomas and everything else.

The media backs off.... nothing happens This guy should run for Congress ,he gets away with everything This Vader has scared the he!! out of so many people over the years, it is obvious the he rules by fear and intimidation. What a prick.

 

[HeelFan58]

Very telling article.

Sulaimon was a brat on the court and you will find very few Tar Heel fans that liked the guy. I hated him as player and still do. The kid has to blame himself for a lot of his problems, but the following comment by his mother to the Baltimore Sun is very telling:

“Rasheed just won’t break the code,” Angela Sulaimon said in an interview Monday with The Baltimore Sun. “Certain things he won’t say because he’s afraid of what might happen.”

Duke has the big advantage of being a private school and it's hard to penetrate the "Berlin Wall" when problems are reported. One of these days the Berlin Wall is coming down.

"Break the code"..... it figures. Well, look at this way. We have the "Carolina Way" and Duke has "The Code".
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...son-s-dismissal-from-duke-20151021-story.html

The Dark Lord "K"ader has the force.

 

[HeelFan58]

Ya know there is so much crap that goes on in that program with Vader at the top. The Lance Thomas scam is just the tip of the iceberg IMO and this kid is AFRAID to speak out...


No One does anything about it, no one says anything, no one investigates. The faculty and admin are TOTALLY and completely silent and intimidated on Thomas and everything else.

The media backs off.... nothing happens This guy should run for Congress ,he gets away with everything This Vader has scared the he!! out of so many people over the years, it is obvious the he rules by fear and intimidation. What a prick.

Yeah. If the media asks the wrong question he just says "that is not he question you want to ask" and if questioned by an underling or player he just raises his hand and they suddenly have trouble breathing.

 

[dadika13]

Eh, Rasheed has a ton of problems. Most people with issues deflect their problems on to other people and put blame away from themselves. She lost me when she said "it's a privilege to have Rasheed."

I get it, we hate Duke. But it isn't like this is coming from a Shane Battier or Bobby Hurley type character guy. I tend to believe the hundreds of good kids who haven't had issues at Duke rather than the very few who have had them (esp the ones with the baggage Rasheed has).

 

[keysersosay#1]

Are you a doochie??? God , you belong on one of their God forsaken slurp fest boards. Open your eyes

 

[aah555]

There have definitely been a few instances where it at least seems (and I know that is subjective) like K hasn't always treated every one of his players in perhaps the way he should have. Regardless, most of those players have also had a hand in that. I think K is a little more businesslike than some. It has worked for him though.

Yes, I have a hard time seeing how Sulaimon was treated unfairly or why K would have any incentive to treat him unfairly. The kid was a key rotation player whose departure nearly imperiled a shot at a national title -- as it pushed Duke to within one injury of not having enough bodies to reasonably compete at an elite level. Beyond Cook, he was really the only guy on the roster with any big game experience. I think K had every incentive to want to make it work. The fact that he got dismissed on the eve of the biggest regular season game of the season (the first to ever be dismissed) tells me there were some really problematic issues with him. None of us know all of the factors that went into the dismissal, but clearly there were real issues with him. From a pure talent perspective, Sulaimon was clearly the best 2 guard we had on the entire roster.

And, while that Chronicle article was very unfortunate (and clearly not something that Duke wanted to get out), I'm not really sure how Sulaimon has been greviously harmed by the dismissal. The kid was allowed to finish his degree on scholarship and will be starting on a top 2-3 team in the country next year. Beyond removing him from the team during the stretch run, it's not as if K has done anything to impede Sulaimon from moving on.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

It was a privilege to have Rasheed refers to a parent being proud of having her son-this is completely understandable! The telling part to me is the obvious fear of reprisals from the rat king and the reference to his power over USA bball and connection to GMs. Only a true pukie would miss the clearly mob-like feel of this story! (Rat Father?)

I think Sulkymon is very punkish, but I don't see how that disqualifies him from being a pukie. I bet it was the standing up to ratty that was the straw!

 

[keysersosay#1]

...clearly not something Duke wanted to GET OUT...BINGO!!!!! It is ALWAYS about the cover up isnt it?? No we CAN'T let THAT get out!!
You guys are so blinded by your loyalty to Vader and the program that the truth about this or say Lance Thomas can NEVER get out .Yet WE release Every detail about every action taken by every person on the Carolina campus for the last 30 years and you doochies mock us and laugh at us. All the while you REFUSE to reveal and cover up any details about what l what happens at YOUR place.

It is THE reason why I LOATHE K. I think he is a massive fraud and phony who KNOWS full well what would happen if the TRUTH actually DID come out about Thomas and a lot more that goes on there.

Keep that cover up going though, we would NOT want the TRUTH or any anything else to come out now would we???

 

[Steat]

Yes, I have a hard time seeing how Sulaimon was treated unfairly or why K would have any incentive to treat him unfairly. The kid was a key rotation player whose departure nearly imperiled a shot at a national title -- as it pushed Duke to within one injury of not having enough bodies to reasonably compete at an elite level. Beyond Cook, he was really the only guy on the roster with any big game experience. I think K had every incentive to want to make it work. The fact that he got dismissed on the eve of the biggest regular season game of the season (the first to ever be dismissed) tells me there were some really problematic issues with him. None of us know all of the factors that went into the dismissal, but clearly there were real issues with him. From a pure talent perspective, Sulaimon was clearly the best 2 guard we had on the entire roster.

And, while that Chronicle article was very unfortunate (and clearly not something that Duke wanted to get out), I'm not really sure how Sulaimon has been greviously harmed by the dismissal. The kid was allowed to finish his degree on scholarship and will be starting on a top 2-3 team in the country next year. Beyond removing him from the team during the stretch run, it's not as if K has done anything to impede Sulaimon from moving on.

Sulaimon is a brat, but mom has hit on something with "The Code".

 

[dadika13]

Are you a doochie??? God , you belong on one of their God forsaken slurp fest boards. Open your eyes

Because I have a rational opinion that doesn't trash one of our rivals? Come on man, grow up.

Sulaimon is a joke. He has been since he was 17 years old. His mom sounds like one of those "my son can do no wrong" types that are a coach's worst nightmare. I'm not going to blindly defend a kid that hasn't earned one ounce of it.

 

[keysersosay#1]

Hell I could not care LESS about suetheman The phony institution, dook basketball ,that he is NOT talking about is my only concern

 

[TPFKAPFS]

i agree that this has little to do with Sulky (hopefully nobody is seen as supporting/defending him!)-it is just another peek behind the iron curtain! All it takes is a little crack and eventually the whole dam bursts!

 

[gary-7]

Very telling article.

Sulaimon was a brat on the court and you will find very few Tar Heel fans that liked the guy. I hated him as player and still do. The kid has to blame himself for a lot of his problems, but the following comment by his mother to the Baltimore Sun is very telling:

“Rasheed just won’t break the code,” Angela Sulaimon said in an interview Monday with The Baltimore Sun. “Certain things he won’t say because he’s afraid of what might happen.”

Duke has the big advantage of being a private school and it's hard to penetrate the "Berlin Wall" when problems are reported. One of these days the Berlin Wall is coming down.

"Break the code"..... it figures. Well, look at this way. We have the "Carolina Way" and Duke has "The Code".
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...son-s-dismissal-from-duke-20151021-story.html

As you said, Sulaimon is what he is. However, that is indeed very telling abut something very unwholesome that has been going on for years over there in that armpit. I am not exaggerating when I say there is a very cult-ish mentality propagated under Rat Vader.

 

[Tom79]

aah555 needs some help, please re-read your post as the answer is within your post...

"K"ader dismisses a player, at a critical juncture of the season, for the season...hmm, wonder what type "wrist slap" he should have gotten over in Derm rather than the "harsh" treatment...guess he did do "something" that even upset "K"ader beyond his "ethics" courses and leaders of men stuff...
aah555 sounds like his handle describes someone bending over... happens in Derm, apparently.

 

[Steat]

Sulaimon's mom is a good candidate to "break" the code down the road. Of course, she will hold off and wait to see if her brat gets an NBA contract or bounce around several years trying to get one. Sulky just needs to keep his head down for a few years and then let his mom come out swinging down the road.

 

[coryfly]

Eh, Rasheed has a ton of problems. Most people with issues deflect their problems on to other people and put blame away from themselves. She lost me when she said "it's a privilege to have Rasheed."

I get it, we hate Duke. But it isn't like this is coming from a Shane Battier or Bobby Hurley type character guy. I tend to believe the hundreds of good kids who haven't had issues at Duke rather than the very few who have had them (esp the ones with the baggage Rasheed has).

I think the counter to this would be that K has never really been accused of treating the players he likes with anything but the highest respect. The questions regarding how some guys are treated involves those guys who get in his doghouse or whatever or guys he thinks are expendable. Still, the players themselves certainly may play a hand in how they are treated. I certainly don't know that not to be the case. I tend to agree with your premise here regarding Saluiman. He kind of earned his way off the team IMO. Also, I tend to look at situations like this where a person speaks out in this way pretty cynically.

 

[Tom79]

Yeah cory, hence the Kenny Dennard seat at the end of Dook's bench.

 

[aah555]

I think the counter to this would be that K has never really been accused of treating the players he likes with anything but the highest respect. The questions regarding how some guys are treated involves those guys who get in his doghouse or whatever or guys he thinks are expendable. Still, the players themselves certainly may play a hand in how they are treated. I certainly don't know that not to be the case. I tend to agree with your premise here regarding Saluiman. He kind of earned his way off the team IMO. Also, I tend to look at situations like this where a person speaks out in this way pretty cynically.

Yes, I don't think K normally has any issues with guys who do what he asks. To the extent problems emerge, they emerge with guys who don't buy-in to their roles and handle their business in line with how he wants his players to behave (as with Sheed or Taylor King). Rightly or wrongly, K's not going to bend to accommodate guys who aren't on the same page with him. But I wouldn't necessarily equate that with talent or expendability. For instance, Tyler Thornton was clearly K's favorite player on the 13-14 team -- even though, by any metric, he wasn't a particularly good player. On last year's team, part of the issues with Sheed emerged when K gave his starting spot to Cook and started playing Matt Jones more -- both guys he trusted more than Sheed, who probably has more basketball ability than both. The same is seen throughout his tenure -- whether it be guys like Scheyer, Nate James, etc. Guys who buy-in to their roles (regardless of what that role is) thrive at Duke. Guys who try to push back against the roles that K envisions for them will have problems. Unlike some coaches who are willing to cater to their talent, you're either on board with what K wants to do or you're not. If you're a great player, it's easy to buy-in b/c you're buying into a plan that will feature you. The problems arise when you have a kid who thinks he's a great player (and probably came in with really high rankings), but then gets slated for a bit role. Beyond any off-the-court issues (which we have no idea about), it's pretty clear that a lot of the issues between K and Sheed related to the fact that Sheed thought he deserved a far bigger role than K was willing to give him -- and did and said things that caused K to no longer trust him as a dependable team player.

 

[coryfly]

Yes, I don't think K normally has any issues with guys who do what he asks. To the extent problems emerge, they emerge with guys who don't buy-in to their roles and handle their business in line with how he wants his players to behave (as with Sheed or Taylor King). Rightly or wrongly, K's not going to bend to accommodate guys who aren't on the same page with him.

I don't think most coaches are going to do that and agree K isn't either. I think there has been once where I can think of when I would say Roy did that and I think there where definitely extenuating circumstances present. Even in that case I don't think it was buying in as much as a guy who wasn't as good playing more than he should have. Regardless, I don't think the issues people have are accommodations but in how they perceive he treats them after the fact or even as they leave. There is the perception among rival fans, based on a few instances, that K kind of doesn't give a crap about a guy if they don't buy in or benefit his program. Still, most of these 'issues' come from non-Duke fans and just like when non-UNC fans criticize us I understand there is inherent bias in all opinions, including my own.

I don't particularly like K because he is the coach at Duke. Therefore, I don't really want him to be successful. I don't know the man personally so have no interest in disliking him on that level. That is just me though. I get that I also don't live in North Carolina so that is probably a part of who I am as well. I also know (or knew) a few people who have some ties to him and they all are fond of him.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

Because I have a rational opinion that doesn't trash one of our rivals? Come on man, grow up.

Sulaimon is a joke. He has been since he was 17 years old. His mom sounds like one of those "my son can do no wrong" types that are a coach's worst nightmare. I'm not going to blindly defend a kid that hasn't earned one ounce of it.

So you must follow Rasheed closely enough to state that "K"ay is not the problem. Good for you. The truth is that Duke is full of Sheetz and it is dictated from the top down (imo). The shtzz-trickle effect, I presume...!

 

[Bur-Heel]

Because I have a rational opinion that doesn't trash one of our rivals? Come on man, grow up.

Sulaimon is a joke. He has been since he was 17 years old. His mom sounds like one of those "my son can do no wrong" types that are a coach's worst nightmare. I'm not going to blindly defend a kid that hasn't earned one ounce of it.

you would've loved to have him at unc after he transfered from the dookies!!

 

[coryfly]

you would've loved to have him at unc after he transfered from the dookies!!

I doubt that. I wouldn't. There are Duke players I would gladly take if they transferred. He certainly is not one of them.

 

[Crank_it_loud]

1 player dismissed in how many years? I liked Sheed, but the kid had major attitude problems, and issues with authority. They tried to work with him, and even brought him along, but in the end his demeanor wore everyone out on the Duke staff.

Hopefully Turgeon can keep him under control for this upcoming year. Time will tell.

 

[Steat]

1 player dismissed in how many years? I liked Sheed, but the kid had major attitude problems, and issues with authority. They tried to work with him, and even brought him along, but in the end his demeanor wore everyone out on the Duke staff.

Hopefully Turgeon can keep him under control for this upcoming year. Time will tell.

You would have known he had an attitude problem while he was on the team with your fans. Hindsight is always 20-20.

 

[UNC Blue Hup]

you would've loved to have him at unc after he transfered from the dookies!!

Hell no! Where would he fit..haha..JJ/Marcus/Berry/Theo/Britt--this nucleus is a tight group of friends..means more than outsiders realize

 

[Crank_it_loud]

You would have known he had an attitude problem while he was on the team with your fans. Hindsight is always 20-20.

Some fans knew of issues - particularly Sophmore season and later. He's a good kid, but started to unravel a bit as he progressed. As for his mother; of course she's going to defend her son, even if it means taking a jab at the university. IIRC PJ's mom pulled the same crap.