one of the few politicians i respected and the last one to get my vote for president. The fact both sides hated him and liked him tells me he was doing something right.
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RIP john mccain
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I hated a lot of things that he believed/did/voted for politically. But he was an example of the kind of republican that I wish I was still opposed to. I'll always remember him shutting down that crazy woman at the town hall who called Obama a muslim. That moment defined him in my memory.
I definitely respected the man, and despite what some say, he was a war hero.
RIP John McCain.
RIP John McCain.
Yep. Lots of respect and admiration from both sides. He was one of the few that would set aside his party affiliation to do what he felt was the right thing. We need more politicians with that mindset.
His mother, Roberta, is 106. Even at that age, it's the hardest thing to bury a child.
One of my favorite videos and I think even more relevant today with the political climate being what it is now. Just a guy that respected his opponent as an American, no matter what party.
meanwhile, up there now...j/k
a fantastic poast about a guy that some of those folks need to emulate.
a fantastic poast about a guy that some of those folks need to emulate.
I remember watching that, and admiring him even more for his response to that woman. He was such an honorable man, and understood that you don't have to hate and belittle your political rivals just because you don't have the same ideology. If only most politicians would behave with the same dignity, we might actually have some positive across-the-aisle work getting done.
This thread is for posters to pay respects to John McCain. Unless Trump posts in it please leave him out of it.
Grant Woods, former Chief of Staff to Senator John McCain just killed it at the Memorial service . . had the entire group in attendance laughing hard as he retold a few stories of the Senator's past. I don't know if I've ever heard someone lighten a dark moment like he just did. It was powerful . .
Is there anyone out there in OOTB land that is watching along with me . . ?
Is there anyone out there in OOTB land that is watching along with me . . ?
Well, I'll at least have to go to mine.
Since my dad died 25 years ago, I have only been to two, and one was because I was asked to play at the service (a friend's son was killed driving back to USC in Columbia back in 2010).
I have had 2 grandmothers die. I attended one's graveside service. I will never look at another dead body in a box... voluntarily, that is. I will not attend any more wakes. Since I saw my father, I vowed I would never see another. I only saw him from a distance and I just lost it, fell to the ground. It is the strangest ritual to me. My stepdad has worked for a funeral home since he retired 20 years ago. I cannot understand how anyone can be around that all the time. And, frankly, I find that business to be a pretty sick racket. I realize I'm overreacting, but I just find it to be a shitty way to make money.
I've been "lucky" in that regard. The only open casket service I've ever attended was for one of my two best friends growing up about 10 years ago. It was devastating and I cried inconsolably when I saw his body in the casket. Never again for me, too.
I'm not sure how many I've been to, but in my almost 34 years on this planet I've already had to plan two of them. Not fun to say the least. I can understand why people have a problem with seeing a body in the casket. Up until a few months ago I kinda felt the same way. The last one I went to didn't have one though. He had to be cremated because of how he died. Not being able to see him one last time has kind of weighed on me some since. I guess seeing them gave me some kind of closure that I didn't realize I needed/wanted before then.
Yeah... if you're conditioned to see them that way, it can become almost necessary... I guess.
The friend I spoke about earlier, whose son I played at his service, was displayed and then cremated. I had a horrible sinus infection and was too sick to go to the wake. I'm thankful. I never wanted to see that boy in a casket. He was 21 and I'd known him since he was 4. He was in a fatal car crash. I dunno how they fixed him up, but again, I never wanted a visual memory of him that way.
They've never looked natural to me. I know there's nothing there but a chemical-filled body that USED TO BE a person I knew. My father looked awful. My aunt had withered away to nothing and looked worse. My grandfather died of a heart attack and they put his glasses on him to make him look more like himself. My stepdad drops all kinds of details about how they prepare the bodies that I sure as hell never want to see anyone else. I'll have to go to his, if my mother survives him. That will be all. I've informed everyone who knows me- family and friends- that I love them and I mean no disrespect at all. I just do not want to experience those anymore. I send flowers and I always call (or visit), to offer condolences. It's just always seemed like a very morbid, unnecessary ritual. I completely understand why people do it. I just don't need all of that to know the person is no longer in this plane of existence.
Not to mention, I have seen (or heard about) more disruptions to the families that last forever, that occur at funerals. Someone says something, or does something, or says they did something, and someone else takes it as being inconsiderate, or flat-out rude, and there's a grudge that is permanently fixed in the relationship and family as a whole.
