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RIP Papa Bush

Yeah, he would have had my vote had I been old enough. Great man and representative of our nation. This letter sums up his class:

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I'm not saying that, but to try to tie GHW Bush to JFK's assassination sounds pretty far-fetched.

Personally, all those JFK conspiracy theories are entertaining to me, but I firmly believe Oswald acted alone.

And for what reason? It seems more likely to me that floating a silver backed currency and a refusal to escalate the Vietnam War were more likely motivations to kill him.
 
Yeah, he would have had my vote had I been old enough. Great man and representative of our nation. This letter sums up his class:

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I'd never read/seen that before. That was a very nice letter. I wonder how genuine it was.

Like most presidents, they seem to be more palatable once they've left the office. Bush 41 is no different.

I voted for Ron Paul in 1988, and Perot in 1992.

George HW Bush talked of "A New World Order", which had a sort of Orwellian tone to it, to me. I never cared for him, or his policies. The Desert Shield/Storm thing, in particular, was a horrible mistake. And, the same with Noriega. The US government props-up these despots and dictators, sells them arms, and then has an ideal enemy to fight later on. No, thanks.

I'm sorry for his family. But, with his wife's passing, it was coming sooner than later and he was 94. I hope he passed peacefully.
 
And for what reason? It seems more likely to me that floating a silver backed currency and a refusal to escalate the Vietnam War were more likely motivations to kill him.
Because Oswald was a nut job, who felt he was destined for greatness. Earlier in ‘63, he took a shot at retired Gen. Edwin Walker with the same $29 rifle that he killed JFK with, because - like JFK - he was anti-Castro.
 
Because Oswald was a nut job, who felt he was destined for greatness. Earlier in ‘63, he took a shot at retired Gen. Edwin Walker with the same $29 rifle that he killed JFK with, because - like JFK - he was anti-Castro.

So, this guy tries to kill a general and they let him out that quickly? That just makes it seem even more weird to me. Maybe you're right and he acted alone, but I just don't see it. Always follow the money. Eisenhower warned us about it. You saw it in the second Iraq war and the war against Libya. It's always about the money.
 
It was representing me entering and leaving the thread. I initially wasn't going to post anything about my distaste for HW and the Bush family as a whole. Obviously, I changed my mind about that.
I had that explanation in mind... but, it was worth asking.
 
It's always about the money.
That probably explains why they don't call military involvements "Operation: That's Worth A Helluva Lot Of Money, Power, and Influence!" Operation: Iraqi Freedom makes people wanna go risk their life, and the lives of others.
 
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They should have named the Libyan War, Operation: Save the Western Banking Cartels.
I'd actually appreciate the honesty. "Operation: Keep the US Dollar The World's Reserve Currency." There's some incentive there. I mean, when you look at wars for the last, however many, centuries, the soldiers of all armies are expecting to get paid! No one is fighting for free. Even back in "Dubya-Dubya Two", with the national patriotic wave at full crest, no one was killing Japs and Germans and not getting paid for it.
 
I'd actually appreciate the honesty. "Operation: Keep the US Dollar The World's Reserve Currency." There's some incentive there. I mean, when you look at wars for the last, however many, centuries, the soldiers of all armies are expecting to get paid! No one is fighting for free. Even back in "Dubya-Dubya Two", with the national patriotic wave at full crest, no one was killing Japs and Germans and not getting paid for it.

I have nothing against the soldiers, I don't think you do either. They're doing what they believe is right and they have the strength and courage to see it through. My issues lie with their superiors and those that build the weapons.
 
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So, this guy tries to kill a general and they let him out that quickly? That just makes it seem even more weird to me. Maybe you're right and he acted alone, but I just don't see it. Always follow the money. Eisenhower warned us about it. You saw it in the second Iraq war and the war against Libya. It's always about the money.
Oh no, he wasn’t caught. The bullet hit the window frame and barely missed. It wasn’t until after killing Kennedy that they were able to match up the bullet to his gun, and along with other evidence determine it was Oswald.
 
Ahh, gotcha. That makes more sense.
Honestly, I do find the conspiracy theories entertaining, but for them to be true, it would mean that many people (50, 100, more?) would have been involved and they all kept the secrets for 50+ years now.

I think it’s hard for most to accept that just one person could pull off such a heinous act, which makes its easier to believe there must be some large scale plot involved.
 
Honestly, I do find the conspiracy theories entertaining, but for them to be true, it would mean that many people (50, 100, more?) would have been involved and they all kept the secrets for 50+ years now.

I think it’s hard for most to accept that just one person could pull off such a heinous act, which makes its easier to believe there must be some large scale plot involved.

They wouldn't have needed fifty people. Five, maybe ten at the most. The files are still sealed, that's one way to keep it secret.
 
Sorry this RIP thread went in this direction, but threads do that.

I was recently watching the film "Parkland" (made in 2013, I think). It was pretty good. Anyway, it revealed a variable that I'd never heard about before. Apparently, James Hosty, a former FBI agent, was designated to follow Oswald upon his return to the US in 1962. It depicts an encounter between Hosty and his superior discussing the Oswald file and why he (Hosty) hadn't been more aggressive on alerting others about Oswald's behavior. In the film, Hosty's superior says "This is THE BIGGEST fvck-up in the history of American law enforcement." Now, I have no idea how true that was, but it was something I hadn't known before.

After Stone's JFK being such a load of BS, and just being overloaded with theories and studies, I can't say with any confidence what happened. What I do find interesting, from that Parkland film, and others that recount the hour or so after the shots were fired, is how the medical staff tried to resuscitate Kennedy. From what I could see, he was killed instantly from that last shot. In the film, the doctor said he had a heartbeat, but no pulse. I'm no doctor, so I dunno how you can have one without the other.
 
Me neither. It's just how it goes. Rarely does a thread stay on topic throughout its lifetimes.
That's OOTB's mo. You need to dig back in the vault for a treasure trove of detailed threads. Threads can change as soon as the OP poast
 
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There were several things to admire about the 41st President, he volunteered twice for active duty during WWII, he was popular enough to win the POTUS race and have won the majority vote. The man was loyal and respectful and greeted all warmly regardless of political party, and accomplished much by reaching across the aisle and actually working with the opposition.

#41 RIP
 
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