RNC

[yrusonvus]

Surely you guys are watching the Regressive National Convention. WTF is going on with the Grand Ole Party?
Day 1 was messy....Melania lied and got caught.....the spin was My Little Pony, lol, are you kidding me, My effin' Little Pony! Day 2 was calm but still messy. And Day 3 did not disappoint, the best mess so far. Ted Cruz refuses to endorse Trump, telling the crowd to "vote your conscious".

What's the theme here? "Come join us in taking two steps forward and seven steps backwards?

 

[BillyL]

Sean Spicer looked like a 3rd grader defending that plagiarized speech. Campaign manager Paul Manafort hasn't been the brightest bulb in the campaign either, totally botching how the Melania Trump plagiarized speech should have been handled . .

Stab in the back Ted Cruz committed political suicide last night, but that might have been payback for THE DONALD calling him a liar, disgracing his father, and insulting his ugly wife. Inviting him to speak was not in his best interests, and I can imagine that if Trump had a do-over, that the invite doesn't happen, as Cruz created some bad images that certainly could have been done without.

Ol' Newt tried to salvage the evening with his explanation of Cruz's speech but fell short of doing so. The Republican Party that was seeking to unite at the convention, hasn't made one stride towards that goal IMHO, but, we'll see what happens this evening. A rousing Trump speech may accomplish that goal . .

Btw, what was up with Ingraham's Nazi salute . . ?

Now we know why the Republican elites refused to attend the convention . .

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

I think it is a show, literally, just to see how much BS these old Repubs can stand before they say enough is enough! I think the little guitar icon on the logo this year is very telling.... you will get entertained but you won't get any real political solutions if you follow this crowd!

 

[Blue2010]

Old saying my parents taught me growing up: Just give someone enough rope and they will hang themselves.

Allowing Ted to continue forward with his speech last night is the epitome of that statement. His career is virtually over. He looked like the bad guy on the national stage. Trump won, again.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Haven't watched a minute of it - but if the biggest talk of the naysayers is Melania's plagiarized speech, and Cruz's self destruction... that seems like a win for Trump.

Saying that Melania lied and got caught is true, but fairly comical to even say considering what we know about Hillary's recent adventures. One is about a stupid speech, the other is about lives being lost and national security being compromised.

This RNC is a nice joke of an appetizer, but we should all save room for the main course.... the DNC.

 

[GACMAN]

We make a big deal out of a wife's speech! We make a big deal out of someone not endorsing someone? And that becomes major Headline News...YET we have Billary "The Liar" Clinton who lied about getting 4 of our citizens slaughtered in Benghazi as the Dumbass National Convention nominee for President! By the way this hag also used her personal computer to discuss National Security, subsequently deleted the emails, lied about it to Congress, has collected millions of dollars from all over the world for the Clinton POS Foundation in return for Political favors....(do I really need to continue the list)...yet the OP has the audacity to call out the RNC!!!! Really?

 

[Blue2010]

Let's face it - like it or not, what Trump is doing is a time-tested tactic that works. When you are not one of the "in crowd" you can go overboard in a blatant attempt to get certain individuals to crack. You talk trash to the point where you've gotten inside their head.

Not to compare the two, but look at Josh Norman and Odell Beckham. Josh got inside his head, and OBJ is still not over it. Said yesterday that Josh Norman went to the Redskins "to remain relevant" and that he's only famous b/c of the Giants game.

This tactic works:

Step 1 -- You act like a jerk.
Step 1 Result -- Public denounces you.

Step 2 -- Other party takes the bait and reacts.
Step 2 Result -- Other party self-destructs.

Step 3 -- Fickle public mass generally has a short-term memory. They remember the "here and now."
Step 3 Result -- Original instigator wins and gains public support (for the most part).

Take that in sports or any other profession -- if you're good at getting inside people's head - this method works, generally every time. You're watching it first-hand.

 

[strummingram]

I feel kinda bad for Melania Trump. I highly doubt she ever wanted to be shoved into that kind of limelight. I assume she loves and supports her husband, so she's doing that. The speech was a pretty generic speech. They could hand-out the same speech to almost everyone at those pandering circuses and it wouldn't make a difference to me.

I still think it's an embarrassment to our political system that we have Donald Trump as a presidential candidate. I cannot believe the GOP has fallen like it has. A reality TV show entertainer, born into ultimate privilege, with NO governmental experience whatsoever, and a self-obsessed blowhard to boot, is being praised and loved by legions of American people as being presidential material. And, they somehow believe he actually gives a tiny shit about them! Of course, that last comment could be said about just about every politician. What a poor reflection of the society. And, that is exactly what it has always been- a reflection of the society.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Anyone who thinks that either Michelle Obama or Melania Trump wrote those speeches is kidding themselves.

Both women had speech writers write it for them. Trump's speech writer just seems to have taken parts from Obama's speech writer.

 

[GACMAN]

For what it is worth....I think that a lot of those folks at the RNC are acting like idiots. You have supposed professional people acting anything but by yelling, screaming, booing and hissing. What are we at a college frat party...what a bunch of fools! These conventions are a waste of money and time! Of course then anything that happens the media takes...blows it up 1000% and here we go....another giant circle jerk. I have watched maybe 10 minutes of this convention and will watch maybe none of the DNC...that's how little regard for any of it that I have!

For what it is worth......if Trump had said about my pop and my wife what he said about Cruz's...I would have given the speech and told him to F^&K OFF as well! While everyone is running around screaming foul on this....Trump is probably sitting and laughing about it....maybe he gained a little respect for Cruz last night...Cruz acted just like the Donald!

 

[GACMAN]

I feel kinda bad for Melania Trump. I highly doubt she ever wanted to be shoved into that kind of limelight. I assume she loves and supports her husband, so she's doing that. The speech was a pretty generic speech. They could hand-out the same speech to almost everyone at those pandering circuses and it wouldn't make a difference to me.

I still think it's an embarrassment to our political system that we have Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton as a presidential candidates. I cannot believe the GOP has fallen like it has. A reality TV show entertainer, born into ultimate privilege, with NO governmental experience whatsoever, and a self-obsessed blowhard to boot, is being praised and loved by legions of American people as being presidential material. And, they somehow believe he actually gives a tiny shit about them! Of course, that last comment could be said about just about every politician. What a poor reflection of the society. And, that is exactly what it has always been- a reflection of the society.

There...fixed it for you! Because if you are not just as or more embarrassed about Billary then the Donald...well......

 

[Blue2010]

For what it is worth......if Trump had said about my pop and my wife what he said about Cruz's...I would have given the speech and told him to F^&K OFF as well! While everyone is running around screaming foul on this....Trump is probably sitting and laughing about it....maybe he gained a little respect for Cruz last night...Cruz acted just like the Donald!

GACMAN,

I would refer you to my post above. Trump got inside Cruz's head and he self-destructed. It doesn't matter if Cruz was right or not...all that matters was his reaction. And if he self-destructed over someone bashing his family...WTF do you think other world leaders would do? They'd walk all over his ass.

FWIW...Hillary is next. Will see how she handles the onslaught once Donald gets going. You know it is coming.

I actually think Trump is completely dialed-in on what he is doing.

 

[strummingram]

I did catch some of Giuliani's speech on a clip someone posted on FB. That guy was wired-up! I thought he would need a Thorazine shot to bring him down.

 

[Archer2]

Really like what Paul Ryan has been doing. Loved Newt's speech and Pence's as well.
I'm one of those who would never vote for Trump unless it was the Hildebeast he's running against. I'd do just about anything to prevent her from naming 3-4 uber liberal SCJ's who will completely ignore the Constitution for the next 40 years.

There isn't an Indy candidate that has a snowball's chance in hades of defeating "my mother named me after Sir Edmund" Hillary or I'd gladly vote for them. Frankly, I think Trump's chances are very slim but I still have to do everything in my power, short of putting out a hit on Hillary, to boost his chances. And if that means voting for a man I don't particularly like, so be it.

 

[strummingram]

And if that means voting for a man I don't particularly like, so be it.

A race to the bottom. I think that sums-up the sentiment of most people I've ever known (save for a very few) in every election in my lifetime, since I began voting. I can always, at least, say that I voted for who I thought was the best choice. I have NEVER "voted against" anyone. I guess it works for some people.

 

[Archer2]

A race to the bottom. I think that sums-up the sentiment of most people I've ever known (save for a very few) in every election in my lifetime, since I began voting. I can always, at least, say that I voted for who I thought was the best choice. I have NEVER "voted against" anyone. I guess it works for some people.

I've been voting since the '72 election and have rarely felt the frustration that I'm feeling over this election. Voting is almost always about voting for the person who most closely espouses your own personal views. I've never seen a candidate whose views matched mine perfectly.

The problem is that my views don't match either of these two candidates' very well because I'm a Conservative and neither of them are even close to being so. But Trump believes in a handful of things that I believe in, whereas the only things I have in common with Hillary are that we are both erect walking mammals with opposable thumbs. Philosophically, we couldn't be farther opposed.

And because of the long lasting impact the selecting of 3-4 SCJ's will have on our nation, I must do anything reasonable within my power to prevent Hillary from making those selections.

Life very often entails making tough choices, perhaps opting for one path simply because the alternative path is even more dangerous, not necessarily because you want to make that choice. This election fits that descriptions for me. Choice A(Trump) will ultimately be less harmful to our country's future than choice B(Hillary), IMO. And because 95% of the minority vote will be cast for Hillary as a matter of course, voting for an Indy candidate is tantamount to not voting at all. In essence, it is a vote for Hillary.

 

[strummingram]

And because of the long lasting impact the selecting of 3-4 SCJ's will have on our nation, I must do anything reasonable within my power to prevent Hillary from making those selections.

Trump's choice for Vp makes me even more worried about his Justice picks. I don't wanna live in a Theocracy. Pence is WAY to Evangelical for me. I'm very leery of uber-religious people in politics.

 

[Archer2]

I love the fact that he's an avowed Christian. IMO, that's an asset, not a detriment. Having a POTUS or VPOTUS who is Christian has nothing whatsoever to do with our country being a theocracy.

According to Webster, a theocracy is:

"A form of government in which God (or a deity) is recognized as the king or immediate ruler, and his laws are taken as the statute-book of the kingdom, these laws being usually administered by a priestly order as his ministers and agents; hence (loosely) a system of government by a sacerdotal order, claiming a divine commission; also, a state so governed."

Iran is an example of a modern day theocracy. The USA is anything but a theocracy, and even if everyone in the White House was a Christian, they could not make it so.

 

[strummingram]

I love the fact that he's an avowed Christian. IMO, that's an asset, not a detriment. Having a POTUS or VPOTUS who is Christian has nothing whatsoever to do with our country being a theocracy.

According to Webster, a theocracy is:

"A form of government in which God (or a deity) is recognized as the king or immediate ruler, and his laws are taken as the statute-book of the kingdom, these laws being usually administered by a priestly order as his ministers and agents; hence (loosely) a system of government by a sacerdotal order, claiming a divine commission; also, a state so governed."

Iran is an example of a modern day theocracy. The USA is anything but a theocracy, and even if everyone in the White House was a Christian, they could not make it so.

I just don't want people governing based on their view of some ancient religious text that they believe came from some Man In The Sky. I'm aware that we don't live in a Theocracy. I want to keep it that way.

 

[strummingram]

Well, I think it's safe to say that the GOP got whiter this time:

 

[Archer2]

I just don't want people governing based on their view of some ancient religious text that they believe came from some Man In The Sky. I'm aware that we don't live in a Theocracy. I want to keep it that way.

Sounds like you're an atheist. Are you?

 

[gteeitup]

this convention is a joke...and i'll say the same thing next week.

the difference is politics vs reality tv.

just concentrate on local and state elections.

 

[strummingram]

Sounds like you're an atheist. Are you?

Not hardly. I know there is a God. I just don't subscribe to religious clubs to tell me how to understand and know God. God was around a long time before any of these religions showed-up. And, no one religion is the only "right" one, and all the others wrong. Religion is a lot like nationalism. It's a handful of people telling you that you need them in order to be Free, or to appease God, or whatever it might be. God needs nothing from us. God just is. We're not separated from God. We can't be. Religion needs you to believe otherwise. If you don't believe what they're selling, then they cease to exist. They aren't about to do that. Same goes with nationalism through governments. The "leaders" need people to believe that Americans are superior to everyone else. Or, that we, as Americans, should favor other "Americans" before everyone else. It's just Tribalism in a modern form. God tells me, quite clearly, that ALL PEOPLE are ONE NATION. We're all ONE family. Whatever you do to others (any others), you do to yourself.

No, I'm not an atheist. There are no atheists. Everyone believes in God. We just vary in how we do it. Just the word "God" makes people think of religion. I don't have an issue with religion by itself. But, when PEOPLE get involved, then religion gets dangerous. By themselves, when a person takes them individually, religions can be awesome. When the groups get involved, then they start being suspicious of all the other religions. It's not a matter of IF you believe, it's a matter of HOW you believe. God is not one thing or another. God is EVERYTHING.

 

[Archer2]

I have to say that's the strangest interpretation of God and religion that I've ever seen expressed. To each, his own.

 

[strummingram]

I have to say that's the strangest interpretation of God and religion that I've ever seen expressed. To each, his own.

Well, I specialize in the strangest. Not on purpose, but... oh well.

It's actually not very strange at all. It's just different from what your religion has taught you.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

I agree with Strum. God IS everything. God is the love you feel. God is that voice inside you that guides you and when you ignore that voice, you know if you shouldn't have or not.

I'm not talking about the voice in your head when you tell yourself what you want to have for dinner, I am talking about the voice from your soul, very different. It's a feeling and while it doesn't have words, it does speak to you. If you sit in silence and listen for it, you'll hear it, you'll feel it, you'll know it. It took me 50 years to finally get it. Prior to that I was listening to all the words from man about God but I did not KNOW God, I knew OF God.

The Bible is a beautiful book with lots of beautiful, inspirational proverbs and psalms and guidance, should you need it but it IS from man, INSPIRED by God and while I do believe God came to some in dreams or sent messages in other ways for these men to give us the Bible, I also believe that God is infallible but man is far from it and man can make mistakes. We all hear things differently on things not related to religion or God specifically, so it is highly likely someone hears things that is in the Bible differently.

Just follow that inner voice, God is there guiding you.

 

[strummingram]

 

[BillyL]